FOX *CBM thread - RIP STAN LEE - Dark PhoeniX 06/07/19

Where Do You Rank LOGAN Among CBMs?

  • Best CBM to Date

    Votes: 13 16.7%
  • Easily Top 5

    Votes: 28 35.9%
  • Top 10, Maybe Top 15

    Votes: 29 37.2%
  • Mediocre at Best

    Votes: 5 6.4%
  • Not Good at All

    Votes: 3 3.8%

  • Total voters
    78
It's kind of strange how it worked out but I really like the story device of each movie being set 10 years apart

at the end of civil war, I wanted to continue watching to see what cap was up to and his new adventures

at the end of force awakens, I want episode 8 to happen right after 7 stopped

but for these movies I'm okay with coming back and seeing what these guys are up to in the 90s
 
 
would i be able to watch this without seeing the last x-men movie

or should i go see it before i watch this one
there are A LOT of call backs to first class

DOFP too 

I would say you need to know the story arcs of these characters (from the past movies, not comics) to fully enjoy the different character arcs 
 
I watched the first 3 transformers in the theaters, I refused to watch the 4th..

Saw it on one my cable movie channels, I tried watching.. Made it a handful of mins before I was on my lap top doing work

Didn't watch the first recent TNMT in theaters, but did watch it on tv.. Don't regret my decision to skip it





Went to the theater to watch BvS, MOS and Reynolds green lantern.. And every single Nolan batman
 
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I also like that they fully embraced the ludicrousness of their powers, both magneto and quicksilver could easily wash the entire MCU roster easily 
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Magneto finally showing comics level powers on screen was delicious. And the conclusion of the character arc that started with FC was satisfying and sufficiently different from who Magneto was in the OG trilogy.

You know what **** it despite my gripes there were a lot of cool/good things in this movie.
in 3 movies dude went from

stopping a bunch of missiles

to lifting an entire baseball stadium

to sucking all the metal in the world out of the earth all at once 
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quicksilver giving apoc the hands 
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I watched the first 3 transformers in the theaters, I refused to watch the 4th..

Saw it on one my cable movie channels, I tried watching.. Made it a handful of mins before I was on my lap top doing work

Didn't watch the first recent TNMT in theaters, but did watch it on tv.. Don't regret my decision to skip it





Went to the theater to watch BvS, MOS and Reynolds green lantern.. And every single Nolan batman

Bruh no matter what anyone is discussing in any thread I can always expect a post about TMNT or Transformers or Michael Bay from you.

Like I'm legit perplexed b.
 
Or you can point to 2 threads.. This and DC

And both are screwing up.. Yes a big crime comparing comic book movies to one another

Then I get called a marvel fan boy when I throw them in the mix.. Even though I've praised nolan's work, deadpool, blade movies, hell boy movies, kingsman, Scott pilgrim, kick***** and other graphic novel movies



Hell, I actually like watchmen
 
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I actually sorta liked the movie just seen it today
Wolverines scene was the best part for me
 
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it made thematic sense for the end fight to be everyone vs apoc but it would have been a lot cooler if magneto beat him 1v1

but to be fair everything is always cooler with more magneto 
 
what didn't you like about the movie?

there were a bunch of small narrative devices that were actually pretty smart 

Apoc was terrible. Give him the proper backstory he deserves. He's the reason for the movie. You just jump to him being preserved? You soend how much time on setting up his horsemen? Time that could've been spent telling his story and why he's such a badass. You present his first powers as being able to turn ppl into sand and restructuring matter. Basically showing dude is the epitome of death off the bat. But since he's feeling nice, lemme just put the cyclops in some building, only cover a little bit of their body. Yeah ok. :lol:
Angel dies in a plane. .
The music was cheesy as hell. Insert generic rock song while Angel is drunk. Insert Zimmer rip off symphony when Magneto is feeling sad.
Psylocke was supposed to be Caliban's right hand. That's gotta be worth something. Nah, useless.
Nightcrawler was on point in the past. He was tolerable in this one. At least he had some importance.
Nobody aged at all. Hank looks young as hell. :lol:
The police scene with Magneto. They're smart enough to remove their badges but not to check his daughter for metal? Wut?
The cheesy mutant cage fighting. Haven't seen that before..(yawn)
Wolverine cameo was not needed. Movie was long enough. How many origins do we need?
QS is too overpowered. He can save everyone in the mansion from an explosion. Strange dudes from a helicopter come down and he can't use his ability for 1 sec? meh.
The character with the biggest arc was magneto and it zigged and zagged.
 
 
what didn't you like about the movie?

there were a bunch of small narrative devices that were actually pretty smart 
Apoc was terrible. Give him the proper backstory he deserves. He's the reason for the movie. You just jump to him being preserved? You soend how much time on setting up his horsemen? Time that could've been spent telling his story and why he's such a badass. You present his first powers as being able to turn ppl into sand and restructuring matter. Basically showing dude is the epitome of death off the bat. But since he's feeling nice, lemme just put the cyclops in some building, only cover a little bit of their body. Yeah ok.
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Angel dies in a plane. .
The music was cheesy as hell. Insert generic rock song while Angel is drunk. Insert Zimmer rip off symphony when Magneto is feeling sad.
Psylocke was supposed to be Caliban's right hand. That's gotta be worth something. Nah, useless.
Nightcrawler was on point in the past. He was tolerable in this one. At least he had some importance.
Nobody aged at all. Hank looks young as hell.
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The police scene with Magneto. They're smart enough to remove their badges but not to check his daughter for metal? Wut?
The cheesy mutant cage fighting. Haven't seen that before..(yawn)
Wolverine cameo was not needed. Movie was long enough. How many origins do we need?
QS is too overpowered. He can save everyone in the mansion from an explosion. Strange dudes from a helicopter come down and he can't use his ability for 1 sec? meh.
The character with the biggest arc was magneto and it zigged and zagged.
I thought apoc was okay as the throw away bad guy of the movie. He's kind of a dumb concept in general, as are all "all powerful power hungry" bad guys like thanos and darkseid. He was fine as your generic comic book bad guy, did his job and that's about it. 

I don't care about the angel character at all, him dying was very enjoyable for me. glad we dont have to see him in future movies

I really wish psylocke died too, I really hope they dont bring her back because the actress was awful and she had no personality or character at all.

The cheesy music was perfect with the cheesiness of this movie, it's exactly what I was talking about in the BvS thread about how the wonder woman theme was so awful that I started laughing in the theater. I did the same in this movie but it was part of the fun rather than just feeling out of place.

Overall it was just a well made, dumb summer action movie with likeable characters. Which is exactly what people should expect out of this franchise just like the F&F movies
 
I thought apoc was okay as the throw away bad guy of the movie. He's kind of a dumb concept in general, as are all "all powerful power hungry" bad guys like thanos and darkseid. He was fine as your generic comic book bad guy, did his job and that's about it. 

I don't care about the angel character at all, him dying was very enjoyable for me. glad we dont have to see him in future movies

I really wish psylocke died too, I really hope they dont bring her back because the actress was awful and she had no personality or character at all.

The cheesy music was perfect with the cheesiness of this movie, it's exactly what I was talking about in the BvS thread about how the wonder woman theme was so awful that I started laughing in the theater. I did the same in this movie but it was part of the fun rather than just feeling out of place.

Overall it was just a well made, dumb summer action movie with likeable characters. Which is exactly what people should expect out of this franchise just like the F&F movies

It's apocalypse tho. He a supervillian, the most powerful mutant out there. Could've easily made two movies with him. He's out to destroy the weak of the world, serious vibes but then so much cheese.

I'm glad you said that about WW music in BVS. I was in shock how dudes were loving it in the BVS thread. I literally cringed in my seat and had to look up at the ceiling for a brief moment when that music went on.
 
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I thought apoc was okay as the throw away bad guy of the movie. He's kind of a dumb concept in general, as are all "all powerful power hungry" bad guys like thanos and darkseid. He was fine as your generic comic book bad guy, did his job and that's about it. 

I don't care about the angel character at all, him dying was very enjoyable for me. glad we dont have to see him in future movies

I really wish psylocke died too, I really hope they dont bring her back because the actress was awful and she had no personality or character at all.

The cheesy music was perfect with the cheesiness of this movie, it's exactly what I was talking about in the BvS thread about how the wonder woman theme was so awful that I started laughing in the theater. I did the same in this movie but it was part of the fun rather than just feeling out of place.

Overall it was just a well made, dumb summer action movie with likeable characters. Which is exactly what people should expect out of this franchise just like the F&F movies
It's apocalypse tho. He a supervillian, the most powerful mutant out there. Could've easily made two movies with him. He's out to destroy the weak of the world, serious vibes but then so much cheese.

I'm glad you said that about WW music in BVS. I was in shock how dudes were loving it in the BVS thread. I literally cringed in my seat and had to look up at the ceiling for a brief moment when that music went on.
its one of those things where I totally understand why people would be upset that he wasn't bigger and more developed

but personally "the most powerful being in existence" type villains are just boring, there is nothing interesting about characters like apoc, thanos and darkseid other than just how powerful they are.

which is why I'm sure marvel will make a great movie but I'm not anywhere near as hyped for the IW movies as I was for CW or even AOU

I thought it was kind of fitting that they beat a villain who's only interesting trait is being super powerful by literally using everything they had on him and blasting him off the face of the earth 
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I can shut down and enjoy a movie for what it is most of the time. Most recently with the brother Grimsby and hardcore henry.
I think that part of my brain that just shuts off for dumb movies got tampered with when it comes to Marvel movies. I blame Disney.

My biggest gripe with these movies or show is that I'm fine with you showing me the type of universe I have to suspend my disbelief for. LOTR, Super hero movies, Harry Potter, etc. I'll immerse myself into it.

Don't go changing the rules of the universe that you showed me though just so it can fit the story. I absolutely despise lazy writing. You forget that your character struggled or performed in a similiar situation with ease only to have the opposite happen in a situation that's virtually identical? Why even do the movie or tv show in the first place. You set up the universe and act accordingly, don't go changing ****. :smh:
Maybe I'm too bent on this being a fundamental rule?
 
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that's the problem with these all powerful beings though

like thanos could have killed everyone and everything with a snap of his fingers but in the comics the only reason he lost was because he was bored and wanted to fight the entire marvel universe just for fun 
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its why I dont like the idea of all powerful characters that can do everything, they can only lose because of bad writing or some dumb gimmick 
 
that's the problem with these all powerful beings though

like thanos could have killed everyone and everything with a snap of his fingers but in the comics the only reason he lost was because he was bored and wanted to fight the entire marvel universe just for fun :lol:

its why I dont like the idea of all powerful characters that can do everything, they can only lose because of bad writing or some dumb gimmick 
Marvel and DC isn't for you then. And honestly, I get pissed off on inconsistencies all of the time(Thor beating Silver Surfer yet getting kicked across the room from Captain America).
 
 
that's the problem with these all powerful beings though

like thanos could have killed everyone and everything with a snap of his fingers but in the comics the only reason he lost was because he was bored and wanted to fight the entire marvel universe just for fun 
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its why I dont like the idea of all powerful characters that can do everything, they can only lose because of bad writing or some dumb gimmick 
Marvel and DC isn't for you then. And honestly, I get pissed off on inconsistencies all of the time(Thor beating Silver Surfer yet getting kicked across the room from Captain America).
there are a lot of interesting villains in both Marvel and DC who's characters are deeper than just "OMG SO MUCH POWER!"
 
As depicted by the source material Apocalypse nor Thanos are suppose to be all powerful. Really powerful? Sure but not uninteresting and just focus on the power.

Thanos specifically has a wealth of depth to him if you just look the character up and only part of his story deals with him attaining something that makes him all powerful.

Apocalypse power is in his philosophy just as much as it is in his mutant ability. He didn't take over the world in AoA just cuz he was really powerful. He made a pitch that appealed to both humans and mutants or at least certain humans and mutants.

Its no surprise that Singer regulated him to the typical destroy the world all powerful guy that gets beaten by being ganged up on.

Like I said that's obviously not what Marvel is going to do with Thanos. Any OGN with him exemplifies that.
 
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I somewhat agree. I see your point. I don't like supes at all. Boring as hell. Never was a fan.

Something about a supervillian tho gets me. To just wash dudes with ease and have nothing but centuries to plot crazy ****. :lol:
Doesn't have to be omnipotent. Give him a weakness that most overlook.
Well, looking forward to Sinister if they don't mess with his appearance too much.
 
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Thanos is not all powerful you're right but him + the infinity gauntlet is the literal definition of all powerful 
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Thanos is not all powerful you're right but him + the infinity gauntlet is the literal definition of all powerful :lol:
Yeah but Rocket Raccoon + the infinity gauntlet is literally all powerful too.

Its the gauntlet that makes you all powerful. You can be a bum on the street and once you get it your near unstoppable.
 
 
Thanos is not all powerful you're right but him + the infinity gauntlet is the literal definition of all powerful 
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Yeah but Rocket Raccoon + the infinity gauntlet is literally all powerful too.

Its the gauntlet that makes you all powerful. You can be a bum on the street and once you get it your near unstoppable.
well yeah, but in the comics (and probably movies) it's thanos who has it

that whole series was pretty meh to me, it was purely based on epicness rather than actual interesting narrative.

the only good use of the infinity gauntlet was when kobe had it 
 
They should make Iceman the villain and let him go ape **** all over New York.
 
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Thanos is not all powerful you're right but him + the infinity gauntlet is the literal definition of all powerful :lol:
Yeah but Rocket Raccoon + the infinity gauntlet is literally all powerful too.


Its the gauntlet that makes you all powerful. You can be a bum on the street and once you get it your near unstoppable.
well yeah, but in the comics (and probably movies) it's thanos who has it

that whole series was pretty meh to me, it was purely based on epicness rather than actual interesting narrative.


the only good use of the infinity gauntlet was when kobe had it 
The entire trilogy of Starlin's run had nothing but an interesting narrative and a thorough character development for Thanos and Adam Warlock imo.

Some of the more interesting marvel cosmic tales since Stan Lee's run on the Silver Surfer until much later like with work by DNA.
 
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Thanos is not all powerful you're right but him + the infinity gauntlet is the literal definition of all powerful 
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Yeah but Rocket Raccoon + the infinity gauntlet is literally all powerful too.


Its the gauntlet that makes you all powerful. You can be a bum on the street and once you get it your near unstoppable.
well yeah, but in the comics (and probably movies) it's thanos who has it

that whole series was pretty meh to me, it was purely based on epicness rather than actual interesting narrative.


the only good use of the infinity gauntlet was when kobe had it 
The entire trilogy of Starlin's run had nothing but an interesting narrative and a thororough character development for Thano s and Adam Warlock imo.

Some of the more interesting marvel cosmic tales since Stan Lee's run on the Silver Surfer until much later like with work by DNA.
I'll take your word for it since I have not read those story lines and I was thinking of the IG event as well as what we have currently seen in the MCU which is a Thanos who is nothing more than a powerful being who seems to just want power and control.

But there is a lot of story to be written and I trust the MCU storytellers 
 
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