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Are u sure thats how it happened? I thought magneto put it back in him or he did the weapon x project again
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They never say but since he's with Magneto and Magneto could put it back in him... I'll just go with that.
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I just vaguely remember (though not 100% sure) that it was like the introduction of bone claws? It showed that Wolverine had bone claws before so he ran without adamantium for a while until Apocalypse made him a Horseman and embedded adamantium on him again. Not an XMen history expert and my memory is a bit cloudy but is how I remembered it. Not sure if there was any event sin between Magneto removing it and him being a Horseman that may have embedded new adamantium on his body.
As for the XMen and F4 crossover, even if F4 bombs that crossover would still be made because they'll probably bank on making their money back with that amalgamation of both teams. It's like the Avengers or BvS, even if the film is bad, it'll likely make plenty of money just because people want to see those groups together.
I don't see F4 bombing though, just the different look and feel, it being more sci-fi than a hero film and staying away from the cheese-fest of the first two might help. If the film is halfway decent, word of mouth will help too. I think it just has to be GL bad for it to really flop but even then I think being a bit more sci-fi would help. Just think about it, terminator Genisys has made ~$280m worldwide already with a budget of $155m and I can see F4 beat that and Fox will be happy with those type of numbers, they aren't aiming at hitting the billion mark, they'd love to but they are well aware that isn't going to happen.
Budget on the F4 is supposedly around $120m so not bad considering it had so many problems with production and director. It doesn't seem to have much in terms of competition either. Man from UNCLE come sout the week after but after that there isn't much there in terms of big blockbuster films.
You also have to consider the international audience, they make up a big chunk of the box office now.
We'll find out soon enough though.
As for the XMen and F4 crossover, even if F4 bombs that crossover would still be made because they'll probably bank on making their money back with that amalgamation of both teams. It's like the Avengers or BvS, even if the film is bad, it'll likely make plenty of money just because people want to see those groups together.
I don't see F4 bombing though, just the different look and feel, it being more sci-fi than a hero film and staying away from the cheese-fest of the first two might help. If the film is halfway decent, word of mouth will help too. I think it just has to be GL bad for it to really flop but even then I think being a bit more sci-fi would help. Just think about it, terminator Genisys has made ~$280m worldwide already with a budget of $155m and I can see F4 beat that and Fox will be happy with those type of numbers, they aren't aiming at hitting the billion mark, they'd love to but they are well aware that isn't going to happen.
Budget on the F4 is supposedly around $120m so not bad considering it had so many problems with production and director. It doesn't seem to have much in terms of competition either. Man from UNCLE come sout the week after but after that there isn't much there in terms of big blockbuster films.
You also have to consider the international audience, they make up a big chunk of the box office now.
We'll find out soon enough though.
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Yes. That's how it happens.
Interesting fun fact, in that same story line Apocalypse made the Hulk one of his horsemen, War I believe.
Why does Singer have to be involved?
Do no good directors want to take the reins? Is FOX this stupid to keep relying on Singer?
Also sounds like this is going to be done through time travel. Instead of Singer's half *** reboot, it's time to completely scrap all the X-Movies save Deadpool and recast everybody again. Set them in the same timeline with the F4.
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I think Kinsberg is Fox equivalent of Feige. Singer is probably just confirming the crossover, not that he will direct? Unless I missed it on the link?
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No one should bend over for singer. Dude is a creep and you'll regret it.
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He only likes underage boys. Most of you should be safe
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There are little to none in the 50+ year history. There's a mini that's pretty good that came out in the 2000s, some 90s stuff when they were playing off Franklin being a mutant, and the early Stan and Jack stuff when they crossed over briefly.
At this point there's probably just as much F4 and X-Men interaction in the Ultimate universe as there are in the main universe.
In one sense even the most hardcore fans could say it doesn't make sense to give them a shared universe given nothing in the comics can be mined especially given the F4 are well known heroes while the X-Men (mutants) are hated and feared to an insane degree. On the other hand though, I feel cuz of those reasons there's huge potential if you get the right directors and writers to really create new stuff. Compare and contrast why the public love the F4 and why they hate mutants. Why does the Thing get a pass but Beast doesn't?
Then there's just the appeal to fans with giving them interactions with Apocalypse (not this trash looking one) and Dr. Doom, Magneto and Doom, really every X villain interacting with Doom
, you could do a dope Shi'Ar/Skrull war, and Legion vs. Franklin (probably a grown up version). Maybe this time around the X-Men help when Galactus shows up. Of course you'd need a guy in charge of all this with a vision which FOX as far as I know lacks right now.That's a shame. I recall not being too happy with some of his opinions and statements about the F4 and X-Men franchises over the past decade.
Yeah he didn't say he'd direct but I honestly would prefer he didn't even know or was told. It's not a good sign he won't direct that he knows about the crossover.
This part makes the most sense though
So hopefully both films tank, directors and most of the cast get scrapped and then they just reboot the right way. At this point I wish the upheaval and problems that happened to SONY happened to FOX right now. Somebody get the dark army to hack FOX.
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Well I think even if he doesn't direct, he still gets producer credit just like First Class and other XFilms I think.
SO we are stuck no matter what.
SO we are stuck no matter what.
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Plus us comic enthusiasts have to remember even tho we thought f4 was trash there were many people who loved it. Alot of us are going to watch just so we can critique it harshly.
I personally think it will do better than antman just off curiosity. And if it is good possibky gotg #s. People just want to see action comic movies these days. What came out 10 years ago i dont coubt as what we couldve had because times were different. People werent really looking for that dark tone as movies recently have been. Spiderman was a fun movie so was F4
I personally think it will do better than antman just off curiosity. And if it is good possibky gotg #s. People just want to see action comic movies these days. What came out 10 years ago i dont coubt as what we couldve had because times were different. People werent really looking for that dark tone as movies recently have been. Spiderman was a fun movie so was F4
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True but I can at least hope that Nolan's producer credit for MOS where it looked like he had little to nothing to do with it would go the same way of future X-films if hopefully somebody new comes in to direct.
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You are mad hopeful in the opposite direction from me and optimistic
I've only seen one trailer for F4 and never had any problem with a black Torch. The trailer seeming grounded in science was interesting to me but not much else. Seemed less like a superhero flick and a sci-fi one which was a good thing to me but the commercial with Kanye's Power playing had me like
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Its like u said a few pages back zik. I never hated the films. Maybe a bit disappointed but never hated.
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I think Singer and Vaughn are probably the only two directors Fox trust with their properties.
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A FF/X-Men crossover will most likely go off against Galactus. Right?
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Depends on how they depict doom. And since they've establishing the N-Zone is could be Annihilus
And Fox owns Kang too, right? Singer said the team up will involve time so that makes sense
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FF X-Men crossover would be trash. The FF franchise is more tangentially related to the Avengers and other Marvel Studios owned properties. Their stories are hella cosmic most of the time. The established vibe of the X-Men universe and whatever they're doing doesn't mesh.
And I always hated the idea of the public adoring these four freaks but then despising mutants and Spider-Man for no reason
And I always hated the idea of the public adoring these four freaks but then despising mutants and Spider-Man for no reason
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Cloudactus!
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With the way they f'd up Apocalypse, I wouldn't want to see them adapt Kang
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They could do Messiah complex or something pertaining to F4 kids like someone mentioned
I think this plays in to the big civil war argument we were having in the Marvel movie thread.
they put them selves out there to the public early. they didn't have to hide so were practically celebrities from jump because of it.
I think this plays in to the big civil war argument we were having in the Marvel movie thread.
they put them selves out there to the public early. they didn't have to hide so were practically celebrities from jump because of it.
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^No thanks. I don't want one of my fave X-Men storylines adapted until at least a singer less reboot
I'd rather they butcher Kang
The public loves all freaks that ain't mutants. Like ****. How can you even tell a mutant from an inhuman
Hell in house of M Peter pretended to be a mutant for the longest and got away with it.
I'd rather they butcher Kang
The public loves all freaks that ain't mutants. Like ****. How can you even tell a mutant from an inhuman
Hell in house of M Peter pretended to be a mutant for the longest and got away with it.
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The X-Men have tons of "hella" cosmic stories bruh. Where you been? Claremont literally covered just about every sort of adventure you can do with the X-franchise.
They don't necessarily have to work in their wheelhouse of the being feared and hated theme.
Most importantly, everybody talking about this is saying to reboot and completely ditch the established X-Men universe in the movies cuz it's mediocre. None of this half stepping Singer half measures with time traveling soft reboots. Just do a reboot for real. The time is right once Jackman is gone.
As for the hate, it's legitimate and for a reason. It's more like why don't the F4 get it and there's reasons for that too. They simply were gov. funded and/or had a better pr team
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I'm talking about the X movies. Not cosmic at all. Phoenix was just schizophrenia. There will likely be no mention of alien technology in Apocalypse
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