I like my pairs, one stone washed, one rigid. I like the way the cut fits me. Did get them hemmed to get the fit right, and still need to do more work on rigid pair to get them broken in as much as I like.
I doubt they would want to overshadow a collab but its not 100% out of the question... I missed out on the Forces because I saw the monday email which I think was sunglasses (technically not a collab) so I didn't even bother to look at the Wednesday email. Then again its not like people will just NOT buy the independent stuff just because they miss out on the Vs... independent fans are independent fans and then you have the people that buy purely on the fact that it's Supreme. Nothing is written in stone... until we get an update on ol boys gut feeling I don't know what to believe.