Worst Coaching Decision in History?

a55a5in11 said:
The play they ran was made to beat that coverage. 9 men in the box and 2 lone cornerbacks. It just so happens the CB made a play damn near every other player wouldn't have. Hindsight is 20/20 so obviously is was the wrong call.
I don't see anyone saying NO surprise inside was a dumb play. Even though if it failed everyone would call peyton an idiot
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but what coverage are you trying to beat

when you have Russell and Marshawm 1 yard out

go back to Packers game when Russy scored off the read option..they didnt throw it one time inside the 10

Pats werent even on goaline run defense

**** Bevell
 
Elpablo21 said:
a55a5in11 said:
The play they ran was made to beat that coverage. 9 men in the box and 2 lone cornerbacks. It just so happens the CB made a play damn near every other player wouldn't have. Hindsight is 20/20 so obviously is was the wrong call.
I don't see anyone saying NO surprise inside was a dumb play. Even though if it failed everyone would call peyton an idiot
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but what coverage are you trying to beat

when you have Russell and Marshawm 1 yard out

go back to Packers game when Russy scored off the read option..they didnt throw it one time inside the 10

Pats werent even on goaline run defense

**** Bevell
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Bro I agree they should of ran the ball. I'm just saying that's who Pete is and I can't hate the dude because one call didn't work.
 
a55a5in11 said:
Elpablo21 said:
a55a5in11 said:
The play they ran was made to beat that coverage. 9 men in the box and 2 lone cornerbacks. It just so happens the CB made a play damn near every other player wouldn't have. Hindsight is 20/20 so obviously is was the wrong call.
I don't see anyone saying NO surprise inside was a dumb play. Even though if it failed everyone would call peyton an idiot
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but what coverage are you trying to beat

when you have Russell and Marshawm 1 yard out

go back to Packers game when Russy scored off the read option..they didnt throw it one time inside the 10

Pats werent even on goaline run defense

**** Bevell
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Bro I agree they should of ran the ball. I'm just saying that's who Pete is and I can't hate the dude because one call didn't work.
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and all Im saying is that isnt a big balls Pete moment..I dont blame Pete for trusting his staff to make a call

you dont need balls to call that play in that context...it wasnt fourth down

they had 3 shots...don't abandon what you preach...defense and running the ball.

give Marshawn his shot...if it doesnt work...u still have another chance to run that pass play if u choose (especially when u consider it a throwaway play)...giving Marshawn the ball is the perfect throwaway play and runs more time off

once again **** Bevell

Cable's zbs run offense, Russell and Marshawn has saved his *** for years
 
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I do agree with **** Bevell. Russells ability to run and Marshawn being Marshawn makes him look half way decent
 
I can kind of understand passing on a 3rd or even 4th down. But a 2nd is completely inexcusable. Sorry.
 
a55a5in11 a55a5in11 bro based on your defending Pete Carroll I'm presuming you're a long time Seahawks fan.
Your taking the high road and I can respect that.

But football is a gladiator sport and yall were so close to winning the battle, and yall literally threw it all away.
Ain't no hindsight on this one. Pete Carroll and his beloved quarterback F'ed up back to back Super Bowl victories.
 
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Mr S J King said:
a55a5in11 a55a5in11 bro based on your defending Pete Carroll I'm presuming you're a Seahawks fan.
Your taking the high road and I can respect that.

But football is a gladiator sport and yall were so close to winning the battle, and yall literally threw it all away.
Ain't no hindsight on this one. Pete Carroll and his beloved quarterback F'ed up back to back Super Bowl victories.
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I agree 100% I was just stating that calls like this come with Pete.
 
In the end, the Patriots outplayed the Seahawks, especially in the 4th.

NE's man on man defense were shutting down Seattle's offense throughout the game and Tom Brady dominated in the 4th quarter. Only reason Seattle came that close to winning was because of that lucky catch. I wanted Seattle to win, but I'm just being honest.
 
not living in the moment or anything, but considering all the circumstances and what was at stake here, hell yes that was the worst coaching decision in history.   only other thing i could think of that comes close is ron washingtons piss poor managing of the 9th inning and to a lesser extent the 10th for the rangers in the 2011 world series, keeping cruz in instead of endy chavez despite cruz being a liability in the field. still with that, it was numerous bad decisions and despite all that they had another chance to seal the deal the next day.  with this game, 1 horrible decision really cost a team a title.

players have thrown game ending picks or have had game ending fumbles in big games in the past, but not on the damn 1 yard line in the freaking super bowl with 30 seconds left and a chance to win the game.

i'm really looking back at this a day later and shaking my head in disbelief. it's second down.  you got 3 tries with arguably the best back in the game, regardless if the pats have their goal line defense and are expecting run, you got 3 cracks to punch it in with a damn good rb.  hell you could even try a qb sneak if you didn't want to give marshawn the ball. still a dumb move but nowhere near as dumb of a decision as the one pete made. 

ultimately though, russ was the one who threw the pick, not pete.  if things looked shaky, why not just throw it away and you got 2 more tries.

its a cruel game though. they got a title to fall back on to lessen the pain somewhat, but that's a type of play and L that lives with you for a while. i don't like the team but russ and pete are stand up dudes, kinda sucks that one play will live with them for a while, but had they won, the accolades would've stayed with them for a while as well.
 
kurage25 said:
Hindsight is 20/20. If it was so blatantly obvious you give the ball to Lynch why not try to catch them off guard with a pass. Granted it was not  a creative play at all, you can't be scared to take chances. 
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I don't watch Football at all, but when I first saw this video. This was exactly what I was thinking.

Maybe Pete Carroll thought New England would be ready for Marshawn and stop him at all costs and so he decided to go for the pass. I think it was a good play call, honestly. It's Russell Wilson's fault. Had Russell made the right pass, Pete Caroll woulda' been praised as a genius.
 
You do 1 of 3 plays.. All are runs unless they literally don't cover guys out wide.. You have a timeout and if you get tackled you get to kill more time anyways (since you would only be up 3 unless you went for 2.. But you play it safe and if they somehow get into feild goal range and make it you still have overtime)

1)run with 2 TEs and 2 WRs.. So they at least have to account for the 2 WRs and isn't strictly a bunched goal line set

2) read option.. Could even have a guy motion across like a fake jet sweep

3) The "tebow" he pulled on the Dolphins.. Motion marshawn out of the backfeild snap it in shotgun, and russ just keeps with the defense spread out



Worst case they stop you.. You get to run more time off the clock.. Still have two downs.. Pats have to decide whether they use their timeout or let Seahawks score
 
i think pete was hoping NE would call a timeout...but bill didn't flinch. had his goal line package with 3 corners in there. think he knew they were going to pass there so he let it play out. we'll never know for sure, but man it was like the two coaches were playing a game of chicken :lol:

i think it's being overblown a bit. a bit. there's no guarantee that lynch scores on that one play. what was it like, 80% chance NE gives up a TD from the one on a rush. what's the % chance of a Russell INT there? i bet it's less than 5%. hindsight is 20/20 and it's always easy to second guess **** after the fact. and they had a great play, but butler just made an INSANE play on the ball. just like russell said, when he threw it, he thought it was TD and game over.

that type of call is why pete is the coach that he is. he gambles. it's worked for him in the past. not going to work all the time. you have to live and die with that at the end of the day. that is pete.
 
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My biggest problem with throwing the ball on 2nd down, if it's incomplete you stop the clock..

Since you have a timeout, you run any of the 3 plays I mention above.. If it fails, run the clock down to 15 secs and call timeout (if New England doesn't before you)



Then you can try throwing on 3rd.. Or you make the call during the timeout to run it twice, since you have to get right on the ball if you get stopped on 3rd
 
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I havent been following this thread at all, but just wanted to chime in and say, Russell Wilson wanted that pass play at the end of the game to play hero.. been telling people there is something about that kid i don't like, son is nice dont get me wrong but I sincerely believe he thinks he is bigger than the team and is salty about his salary. I don't think anybody on the team or coaching sataff wants to say anything about it, but I think that one is on him. yeah we remember Pete's bad play call on 4th down in the BCS title game, but IMO this is on Wilson.
 
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