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Daily fantasy sports is an industry that is quickly growing that allows you to compete against other people with a one day fantasy team for money. Projected 450,000,000$ in entry fees this year.
 
One day fantasy sports leagues that are based in the U.S. and are completely legal, the "big two":
Fanduel-https://www.fanduel.com/
Draftkings-https://www.draftkings.com/
 
Each entrant is allotted the same salary to use on picking a team of their choosing to face other teams.
 
Can play for 1$-1000$+ games.

Game types:

Head to head- Face off 1 versus 1

50/50-A league type in which the top half of all entrants get paid and the bottom half lose their entry fee.  Pool of players from 20-100+ where the top 50% win (ex. 1$ game, win 1.80$ if in top 50%)

double-up- Similar concept, instead the entrant doubles their money if they win (Ex 1$ game, double up to 2$ total)

Tournaments- can be multiple entry, or single entry. Tiered payouts to top 10%.

Multiplier-A league in which you can multiply your entry fee by a certain factor based on the payouts; in a 5x multiplier, for example, the winners get paid out five times their entry fee. The higher the multiplier, the more high-risk/high-reward the league.

 

Commonly used Abbreviations/definitions:

Cash game- Refers to 50/50s, double-ups

Bankroll- The amount of money you’re willing to invest in daily fantasy sports

Ceiling- A player, team, or lineup’s upside; the maximum number of points they could score

Rake-The fee charged by the daily fantasy sites to play in a league; typically around 10 percent of the total buy-ins

Exposure- The amount of money invested in a player; if you have a lot of exposure to a particular player, it means you have a relatively high percentage of your bankroll placed on him.

Fade-To avoid a particular player or game, i.e. “I’m fading the Patriots game because there are 30 MPH winds.”

Floor-A player, team, or lineup’s downside; the minimum number of points they could score

Freeroll-A daily fantasy league that’s free to enter but has cash prizes

GPP-“Guaranteed Prize Pool”; a league in which the prize is guaranteed, regardless of the number of entrants

Hedge-Actions taken to reduce the overall risk of your lineups; if you’re excessively bullish on a particular lineup, for example, you would hedge by creating other lineups without any of the same players, even if it’s sub-optimal. When you hedge, you’re reducing risk at the cost of also reducing upside.

Overlay-When a daily fantasy site loses money on a GPP; if $20,000 is guaranteed but there are only $18,000 worth of entrants, the overlay is $2,000.

Qualifier-A league in which the winners don’t receive cash, but rather win a “ticket” into another league; a 10-team qualifier with an $11 buy-in might give away one ticket into a larger league with a $100 buy-in, for example; in opposition to cash games

Stack/stacking-To pair multiple players from the same professional team in an effort to increase upside

 

Here's a noob guide to guide your research, a little bit dated now, but concepts apply:

 

Fanduel Strategy Guide for Noobs:

 

This is for 50-50s because that's what I play and I figure I can get a better lineup then half the guys out there at least. 

 

1. Gotta know the rules: Point = 1pt, Rebound = 1.2pts, Assist = 1.5pts, Block = 2pts, Steal = 2pts, Turnover = -1pt

 

As you can see Assists are worth 1.5pts while boards are worth 1.2. That means Wall going for 10 assists vs Zbo going for 10 boards nets you 15pts vs 12pts. Blocks and steals are worth 2 points, which is big. Sacramento and Orlando get their shots blocked the most. If you got Hibbert or Ibaka vs Orlando, that might be a great idea.

 

-Differs from draftkings in that 3 pointers, Double doubles, Triple Dubs don't count as points in fanduel. You're worrying about pure scoring, 3 pointers mean nothing. Points are points.

 

 

2. Position match-up: (these guys let up the most objectively)

PG: Phi, Ind, Cha, Bulls, Orl, Bos

SG: Phi, Ind, Nets, Den

SF: Phi, Det, Orl, GSW, Bos, Minn

PF: Det, Bos, Cle, Utah, Den, Mil

C: Orl, LAL, Minn, Pho, Atl

 

You could probably win just by picking these positions against these teams, but there's other things to consider.

 

3. The team Match-up: Draft kings adjusts for match up, so when Washington plays Philadelphia all the Washington guys are more expensive for that week. Fanduel does not do this. You have to abuse the matchups. Vegas Over/Under: Don’t underestimate Las Vegas; they really know what they are doing. Check the spreads and over/under for the day. The over/under is very helpful and they're usually right. High scoring means lots of shooting – lots of shooting means more potential for assists and more potential for rebounds. Every player gets a boost when the over/under is high. West coast games in general are faster paced.

 

4. Value - about 5x the FD price. Guy is priced at 4000$ x 5 = 20 Points you need to reach value. You pick a superstar at 10,000$ (x5), you want to try to get him to hit 50 FD points or the pick didn't hit value.

 

5. Foul trouble- If you got Drummond against Cousins, he's a lot more likely to get in foul trouble and kill your fantasy outlook because he's riding the pine. 

 

6. Injuries - You have to follow the injuries. Who's injured and who's playing/not playing also determines the minutes of everyone. The other night Favors didn't play with illness, Kanter got 30+ minutes and went off.

 

7. Picking your roster-  Often times my strategy is to grab as many players as I can from one team or game to "guarantee" my points. Ex. I pick Jrue Holiday, Tyreke, Anthony Davis, Ryan Anderson for tomorrow. Unless Austin rivers goes for 50, you're going to be guaranteed your 120+ points from these 4 picks (you max out at 4 picks per team). You can double up with this strategy and pick 2 teams, and/or focus on one fast-paced game.

 

8. Handcuff -  Lakers are worst vs Centers so you go Marc Gasol against Lake show. Zbo goes 30/20 and Marc goes for 10/8. Sometimes a guy has an off night, pick both bigs and handcuff the tandem to guarantee results.

 

9. "Safe" pick- Any guy can go off any night. I go for guys who NEED to produce. Derozan is the second leading scorer on the Raptors, went down w/ injury. The Raps NEED Lowry to score 20 at least, every single night. With Dwight out, Harden is put in a similar position. While Kyrie/Love/Bron are much more volatile for me, they have each other to rely on to go off. Pick guys who will give you boards/ast/stl/blk so you're not strictly relying on a good shooting performance.

 

10. Finding a value pick- If you can't find good value picks to play when checking initially there's no other way around it, got to research who's not playing or injured. Any fantasy basketball site (rotoworld, rotowire, fantasy alarm) will give you updated information on injured players. Check about half hour before the games start and you should have a good idea of who you can plug in for value. 

 

Podcasts:

1. Rotogrinders daily fantasy fix- Daily info on the slates that day from top rotogrinders

2. Fantasy Insiders daily fantasy Podcast - Daily analysis of the slates

Rotowire Fantasy basketball - almost daily fantasy basketball review of injuries/box scores from that day. About 15 minutes dedicated to their draftkings picks near the end.

Red Rock fantasy Basketball podcast- Everyday basketball review of injuries/box scores from that day. About 20 minutes (depending on slate) dedicated to fanduel picks.

Basketball Monster fantasy Basketball podcast- Deep stats (usage) and analysis of fantasy basketball. Great info that's very applicable

Eye on basketball podcast/Razz Ball- Mostly basketball talk, briefly run through their l/us

 

Research sites:

Rotogrinders- Defense vs position, algorithims, daily shows (1 hour+ before lineups lock), articles, tons of information here. https://rotogrinders.com/

Rotowire- defense vs position, daily "value report", lineup optimizer. http://www.rotowire.com/daily/nba/value-report.htm

Nbawowy.com- Find both widely used and unique statistics for nba players when their teammates are on or off the court.

Basketball Monster- heard this site has the best projections for players by FAR and is a hidden gem. 50$ for subscription however. There is an incentive for DK, deposit 20$, get free subscription, found here: https://basketballmonster.com/draftkings.aspx

 

Injuries can be crucial, if you want the information first, it's a good idea to subscribe or check out rotowire/rotoworld frequently.

 

Here's a list of DFS guys you can follow on twitter, can also add the beat writers for each team to be the first to know about injuries:

Strategy sites:

Rotoworld Basketball ‏ @Rotoworld_BK

Rotogrinders  @Rotogrinders

The Fake Basketball ‏ @FakeBasketball

NBA.com/Stats ‏ @nbastats

numberFire ‏ @numberFire

Fantasy Insiders ‏ @InsidersDFS

LuDawgs.com ‏ @LuDawgs

DFSReport.com @DFSReport

 

Individuals

 

Drew Dinkmeyer ‏ @DrewDinkmeyer

Michael Gallagher ‏ @MikeSGallagher

Steve Alexander ‏ @docktora

Derek ‏ @RG_Notorious

Al Smizzle ‏ @AlZeidenfeld

Adam Levitan ‏ @adamlevitan

Peter Jennings ‏ @CSURAM88

Scott Redick ‏ @Sports_25toLife

David Kitchen ‏ @Socrdave

Davis Mattek ‏ @DavisMattek

TommyG ‏ @TommygDFS

STL ‏ @stlcardinals84

Haralabos Voulgaris ‏ @haralabob


Edited by Pdino - 2/7/15 at 3:54pm
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Pretty much laid out everything smokin.gif
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Goddamn. Good work

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Good stuff..those sites on lineups are legit.. I was going in blind picking lineups but used some advise on a lineup last night and had my first win over $100..good luck to all.
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Great stuff as usual man.

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Great thread Pdino!!
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Preliminary lineup is this one but as usual I wait until the 6pm hour to really finalize it

Bayless
Ellis
Kahwi
P.Gasol
Whiteside
Smart
Nowitzki
Sacre
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Hope Durant is out...
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Thank you!



So KD out again, who's running with Westbrook? I have to have Curry as my other PG. I know Augustin is playing well, but I have my doubts.







Edit: Russ at 11k, I'm just gonna stick with Augustin.
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Westbrook could be a 100k I'm still getting him in all line ups

Kenyon Martin, Zaza and Irsan all out. Henson smokin.gif
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Westbrook could be a 100k I'm still getting him in all line ups

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Westbrook could be a 100k I'm still getting him in all line ups

Kenyon Martin, Zaza and Irsan all out. Henson smokin.gif


confirmed?

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Westbrook could be a 100k I'm still getting him in all line ups

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Confident even with AD protecting the rim?



I was thinking of rolling with Gasol + Augustin over Russ + Bosh.
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Knight active?

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^ Listed as Probable. Should play.

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nba/1828/brandon-knight
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Knight active?

I got an update earlier saying he was doubtful
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The Kenyon Martin new gets me the most excited regarding other Bucks players (Henson in particular). Dude had been getting 20+ minutes a game laugh.gif.
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Westbrook could be a 100k I'm still getting him in all line ups

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Confident even with AD protecting the rim?



I was thinking of rolling with Gasol + Augustin over Russ + Bosh.
Yeah I don't see AD being a problem in regards to Westbrook.
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Rotoworld has got knight "probable". Bucks/Boston for some favorable match-ups/value plays.

 

KD out

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Building around Russ/Celtics/Bucks and the GS/Dallas game.
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Building around Russ/Celtics/Bucks and the GS/Dallas game.

same with the C's and Bucks..dont trust sully tho even in a good matchup idc **** that fat boy laugh.gif
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I trust Sully more than I'll ever trust Denver stopping anybody.


That FD lineup with Wall/Westbrook/Whiteside though. pimp.gif



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Not completely satisfied, but tentative line up:

Curry
Russ
KCP
Granger
Dudley
Singler
Pau
Henson
Whiteside


Granger and Singler had some decent production last couple of games...But not too satisfied just yet.
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^if you want a punt, I'd go with Tarrik Black starting for LAL at minimum. My other punt would be Gallinari over Granger/Singler

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