Better Call Saul Season Thread - Season Six - April 18th

^ See, that's where my main curiosity is. In Breaking Bad, he was successful... at what he did. Was he a top lawyer? No. Was he an upstanding member of the community? No. But if you needed a criminal who was a lawyer, you needed... HIM. He was the best at what he did.

So are we watching a show that evolves a loveable loser into being somewhat of a commodity, albeit an underground, despicable commodity?

Or are we simply watching a loveable loser continuously lose?
It's a compromise.

Jimmy has legitimate dreams and a goal. We saw it dashed in the flashback after he passed the bar and hoped to work at HHM. Then we see him give it up for the greater good when he was using that bribe money to get a new office to help out Kim. Now he'll probably have some hopes if he lands this case but it'll be scrapped cuz of Chuck's involvement, Kim's betrayal, and HHM stepping in to probably **** on him again.

So being the best at what he did as a criminal and lawyer for criminals in BB to Jimmy would be settling while for Saul it's him playing with the cards he's dealt. Saul in the show never wanted to be some kingpin or corner the market on being a lawyer for criminals. When he finds out about Gus he doesn't go and say I want to convince him to be my client, he didn't go back and try to find Tuco and say I should be representing you, etc.. Son was content with his clientele, wasn't making waves. Then Walt/Heisenberg ***** it up for him. If anything his overall story will be him not ever reaching either goal whether he tried to do right or do wrong.
 
Did they explain why mailroom Jimmy got fired from HHM??

I don't think he got fired. He quit. All we heard was something to the effect of "we'll reassess the situation in 6 months". Howard probably told him sarcastically that even though he passed the bar, he's not the type of lawyer we want here. Jimmy probably saw that as a slight and most likely quit the job.
 
I haven't been in this thread recently because I didn't watch the episode until a little bit ago, but:

When Chuck was looking at those documents written in microtype that said like '$21 for Kleenex, etc.' he - Chuck - said "This is my work?..."

If Chuck signed off on it initially, and he was working with Jimmy/Saul as a team to piece back together the shredded documents and take the RICO/fraudulent business to court (what we originally thought) wouldn't they lose because Chuck had signed off on it initially? Don't see how that would have worked from a legal standpoint.

Looks like they're primed to get $20 million however, so whatever.
 
I haven't been in this thread recently because I didn't watch the episode until a little bit ago, but:

When Chuck was looking at those documents written in microtype that said like '$21 for Kleenex, etc.' he - Chuck - said "This is my work?..."

If Chuck signed off on it initially, and he was working with Jimmy/Saul as a team to piece back together the shredded documents and take the RICO/fraudulent business to court (what we originally thought) wouldn't they lose because Chuck had signed off on it initially? Don't see how that would have worked from a legal standpoint.

Looks like they're primed to get $20 million however, so whatever.
He said this is me at that point cuz he overlooked it. He didn't do anything but organize the files.

Initially, Jimmy left all of those files for his new clients at Chuck's house with the excuse he had no space or w/e, knowing that Chuck had nothing to do and would organize all of it. So when Jimmy showed back up in that earlier scene they mention how he did all of Jimmy's work. Then when Jimmy took a closer look at it after meeting the old lady and learning about how the home gives her an allowance of her own ss checks he took a closer look and saw the fine print for a potential fraud suit.

The whole thing is just to say when Chuck originally handled all of those files for Jimmy he didn't take a close look at each one and just by chance Jimmy took a closer look and brought it to Chuck's attention about it. He even tells Chuck he just happened to come across it and Chuck easily could've, so no credit taken.
 
I was under the impression that kim dies also. everything this guy has done in his existence as a character has been because of kim. dude BECAME a lawyer because of her. I refuse to believe that he wouldn't do everything in his power to be with her again unless she was dead.
nah...she probably found out that his degree is fraudulent or that he has a penchant for skirting the law if it helps him win a case.

i think the shame of dissappointing her would be enough for him to never talk to her again (most likely cuz she wouldnt ever talk to him again)
 
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If I don't get a season 2 of this show someone is gonna get hurt :frown:

It has already been renewed for a second season with 13 episodes.

honestly if we didnt get a 2nd season, it wouldnt make a difference to me yet. it's cool so far, but i'm not emotionally connected to a point if it gets cancelled I would care. It would just mean I have an empty spot on Mondays. IF it gets more entertaining, then maybe, as of right now, I'm just casually invested.
 
"At the end of the mailroom scene, when Howard tells Jimmy HHM isn’t going to hire him as an attorney, we don’t hear the conversation, but what was he saying to him? Was there any indication that maybe Chuck didn’t want Jimmy to be there as an attorney, or did Howard take the fall for rejecting him?
Poor Patrick [Fabian, Howard’s portrayer] had to memorize this whole long speech that we wrote for him, but we always knew we weren’t going to hear it, or that was always our hope, that we would be able to do it without the dialogue. He’s basically just giving Jimmy the pure boilerplate, “We don’t have any associate positions open right now, and my hands are tied. I wish we could help you. It’s really great that you’ve done this, but it’s not going to happen right now” Then he ends with, “Well, we’ll think about it again in six months.” Beyond that, it’s very formal. I think it’s left open to interpretation, or it should be an open question at this point, why exactly Hamlin wouldn’t go to bat for him, and whether or not Chuck went to bat for him as he said he would. "

what was said that we couldnt hear.....
 
@offwhitewhite Gus wouldn't allow something like that to happen at one of his fronts. He was very detailed and particular to not draw attention to himself.

Also, over charging elderly seems so petty and unnecessary with him being a kingpin and all
Gus isnt overcharging them or the company somewhat, it was those few workers there scamming...
 
 
nah...she probably found out that his degree is fraudulent or that he has a penchant for skirting the law if it helps him win a case.

i think the shame of dissappointing her would be enough for him to never talk to her again (most likely cuz she wouldnt ever talk to him again)
How was his degree fraud?
I think he hands the case to his firm.
1. Chuck cant even leave the house because of his condition so how will he tesitfy in court

2.. The other firm will take this case. This is a given. They will steal it
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nah...she probably found out that his degree is fraudulent or that he has a penchant for skirting the law if it helps him win a case.
i think the shame of dissappointing her would be enough for him to never talk to her again (most likely cuz she wouldnt ever talk to him again)
How was his degree fraud?

I think he hands the case to his firm.

1. Chuck cant even leave the house because of his condition so how will he tesitfy in court

2.. The other firm will take this case. This is a given. They will steal it

:rofl:

did you not just see chuck go outside and get stuff from the trunk? he had a breakthrough b.
 
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