Terror Attack in Denmark

DubA169 said:
 
Mark Antony said:
Can't blame anyone based on the things you say. With the all in one view you guys constantly bring up, you must not know any Muslims in real life. How could you? You can't say what you say here then turn and look that person in the eye. Islam extremists are a problem, but so are Christian extremists, American nationalist extremists, hood logic extremists etc. there are dangerous, motivated individuals out there. I don't even know why I would need to explain that you can't lump everyone in a group as having the same line of thinking.
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This false equivalence garbage mantra needs to end. Its embarrassing. No you can't lump everyone in a group. But you also shouldn't be doing mental gymnastics in an attempt the to downplay the current sitiation. i can look anyone in the eye and say the same thing. You think muslims dont know there is an extremist problem currently at this point in time? You think they are unaware and never discuss it? you guys come from a good place but its just patronizing to pretend this **** isnt a serious problem and that anyone who comments on it is a bigot.
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You are a bigot though. Why not just own it? 
 
The western world needs to learn to stop intervening in other countries' affairs under the BS pretense of spreading democracy. Iraq, Libya and all these Islamic countries were better off under their old leaders. There was stability in those counties now they're in chaos because these radical groups took over.
blco02 said:
And another one...

http://news.yahoo.com/says-beheaded...-193850727.html;_ylt=AwrBEiS3O.FUohoAr1rQtDMD

If anyone wants to see the video pm me, you can get an idea of how evil these ISIS thugs really are.
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Truth-Serum said:
The western world needs to learn to stop intervening in other countries' affairs under the BS pretense of spreading democracy. Iraq, Libya and all these Islamic countries were better off under their old leaders. There was stability in those counties now they're in chaos because these radical groups took over.
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Either way they'd be against the Wests' influence on their world which can't be stopped or slowed down. They're threatened by our way of life spreading into their societies. Things such as women's rights, homosexuality, consumerism, secular governments, etc, etc. Don't get me wrong, I'm not discounting your notion on them hating us for intruding in their land, forcing democracy, and interfering with their governments. It's just if you look through out the 20th century you would see that there's a hell of a lot of instability in that region that always affected us one way or another(especially with Israel being our Ally and oil companies in the region).
 
Truth-Serum said:
The western world needs to learn to stop intervening in other countries' affairs under the BS pretense of spreading democracy. Iraq, Libya and all these Islamic countries were better off under their old leaders. There was stability in those counties now they're in chaos because these radical groups took over.
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Yeah, the Kurds in Iraq probably enjoyed the sporadic attempts at genocide while Hussein was still in power. And have you heard of the Arab Spring? Libya threw out Gadaffi on their own accord. I will agree with you that imperialism under false pretenses  of democracy and freedom is wrong, but you are seriously off point here man. While the US and the west has some blame for arbitrarily redrawing national borders after WW2, you can't blame the West for the instability in the Middle East. If anything it's the battle between Sunni and Shia's that  leads to instability. 
 
RonnieFieg said:
 
Yeah, the Kurds in Iraq probably enjoyed the sporadic attempts at genocide while Hussein was still in power.
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There is no defending what Saddam did to Kurds. But there were better ways of keeping Saddam in check and protecting the Kurds than simply invading the country and killing him off.

Speaking of 20th century dictators that west suddenly decided they didn't want in power: The removal of Gaddafi is backfiring as we speak, as ISIS consolidates their power in Libya:

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/world/middleeast/article4355153.ece

Whatever their faults were, these dictators were obviously better than what came after them.
 
That is not true. The west purposefully used agents in that country to start the "uprising". The goal was to remove gadaffi, create instability and chaos then swoop in to plunder the country via multinational companies(primarily oil companies)

The Libyans know this. What happened in Benghazi was not by coincidence

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Libya threw out Gadaffi on their own accord.  
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Truth-Serum said:
No mentally sane person kills three people over parking space.
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i would argue that no mentally sane person kils anyone, period.  I have no idea why that guy killed those people, however, people have been and will be murdered over less than a parking disagreement.  So if it were true, that he murdered them over a parking space, i wouldnt really be surprised anymore.
 
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