The 2015 NBA Draft Thread: Draft Day Is Here

[nick.]

if Towns can consistently hit the 3 it's a wrap 

just gotta hope he doesn't fall in love with it 

 

[hometownhero]

man if towns attempts any 3s next year with the shot clock being over 2 seconds, imma be real disappointed. 

 

[victor page]

 
man if towns attempts any 3s next year with the shot clock being over 2 seconds, imma be real disappointed. 

If he can shoot threes...then why would that disappoint you?

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Towns was hitting 3's in HS/AAU.

I think it's crucial part of his development if he's going to hit his ceiling.

 

[wavycrocket]

Towns was hitting 3's in HS/AAU.

I think it's crucial part of his development if he's going to hit his ceiling.

Andre Drummond was supposed to be an amazing passer in HS & AAU. John Henson was supposed to be Kevin Durant like in HS & AAU. MCW and Austin Rivers had reputations as shooters in HS and AAU. All that doesn't matter. Towson has a decent stroke.... he may be built like Sam Perkins, but can't shoot like him.

I see him as a poor mans Andrew Bynum.

 

[pmatic]

I stand by the taller Al Horford comp.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

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Andre Drummond was supposed to be an amazing passer in HS & AAU. John Henson was supposed to be Kevin Durant like in HS & AAU. MCW and Austin Rivers had reputations as shooters in HS and AAU. All that doesn't matter. Towson has a decent stroke.... he may be built like Sam Perkins, but can't shoot like him.

I see him as a poor mans Andrew Bynum.

uhh...

shooting is something that is easily observable, we can look at a players shooting form, and statistically it's been proven the college FT% is a great indicator of future 3P%.

The industry consensus on Towns shooting potential is not the same thing as...

Austin Rivers and John Henson who had poor free throw % and poor shooting mechanics. in high school and college.

Andre Drummond passing well in the disorganized nonsense that is most of HS basketball



I can't predict the future but the logic behind the evaluations of Towns future shooting percentage is rooted in both the eye test, statistical data, and plain old common sense. If you can't see that well then you may need to take up a new hobby...

It's an inexact science pointing out outliers isn't going to dissuade people from applying the same rubric for evaluating shooters that has been used since forever.

 

[ballinsam23]

A better Andrew Bogut is my comparison for Towns.

 

[nick.]

Cal didn't have him showcase his jumper but he's an 80% ft shooter so you know he can shoot it if he's open.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

I'm staying with Marc Gasol as ceiling.

Bynum was a black hole, and a dominant low post scorer. Not sure Towns is going be a number 1 offensive option.

 

[wavycrocket]

l
uhh...

shooting is something that is easily observable, we can look at a players shooting form, and statistically it's been proven the college FT% is a great indicator of future 3P%.

The industry consensus on Towns shooting potential is not the same thing as...

Austin Rivers and John Henson who had poor free throw % and poor shooting mechanics. in high school and college.

Andre Drummond passing well in the disorganized nonsense that is most of HS basketball



I can't predict the future but the logic behind the evaluations of Towns future shooting percentage is rooted in both the eye test, statistical data, and plain old common sense. If you can't see that well then you may need to take up a new hobby...

It's an inexact science pointing out outliers isn't going to dissuade people from applying the same rubric for evaluating shooters that has been used since forever.

Never said he couldn't shoot. I'm sure he will develop a solid midrange game But you said you think he can be a 3pt shooter and it's a crucial part in reaching his ceiling. I'm saying he doesn't have it in him and not having a 3 ball won't affect his ceiling. Miss me with all your equations etc etc. I'm well aware of how shooting translates at all levels. Tony Alllen shot 42% on 2 or 3 attempts from 3 in college. Sure there are outliers. I just don't believe Towns is THAT good defensively or THAT good offensivley.

Al Horford is a best case scenario for him. I really like that comparison actually.

 

[pmatic]

 

[keel252]

I'm staying with Marc Gasol as ceiling.

Bynum was a black hole, and a dominant low post scorer. Not sure Towns is going be a number 1 offensive option.

Kid won't come close to Marc...Marc is the best in the game at his position. This kid will never be as polished as Marc on defensive end.

 

[pmatic]

We should probably differentiate between similar playing styles and career paths when making comparisons.

 

[buc em]

Yeah I do not see Towns coming close to Marc. Horford I could see though.

I see Towns rocking Under Armour from head to toe in that pic posted

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Towns will be more offensively advanced than Bogut

Towns COULD BE already a better passer than Horford and better moving with the ball/making a move with it to the rack

I've seen Towns make moves to the rack like he was almost a guard with the way he can handle it

I think Horford's game has changed over the years from bully to more pick and pop, is that a fair assessment?

I think Towns can and will be a bully and develop his pick and pop game as well, I just think Towns is much more defensive minded than Horford

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

I also think Bynum was plodding at times but still very fluid in the paint/post. I think Towns is MUCH quicker and faster end line to end line than Bynum ever was, but Bynum's post game seemed very polished early on. Towns obviously needs to develop that part of his game. Bynum was sometimes a blackhole but that's because they never got him the ball 

 he actually showed very nice passing ability, especially with Pau

I like the Marc Gasol comparison overall because Marc is SO INTELLIGENT and so is Towns. Towns is legit SMART GUY. He feels the game very well much like Okafor does. The only thing I disagree with OKB about is that I also believe Towns is more agile/athletic than Gasol plays. I happen to think Towns can become a similar style of player and impact as Marc Gasol on both ends of the floor, just more agile and nimble on his feet

 

[pmatic]

:x

 

[ballinsam23]

Really cant think of anyone Winslow reminds me of. Maybe a Sprewell?

 

[MVP]

I think he'll be a good to great defender off the bat like Kawhi and Jimmy. Just a question on how high his offensive ceiling is. He should be a solid two way player, good athlete.

 

[pmatic]

Are we all sold on Justise's shooting? His three point shooting seems fairly rock solid (41% on nearly four 3PTA/40) , but his free throw woes give me pause. For the season, he only shot 64%, but his last 20 games he was at a tolerable 72%.

Edit:

Also forgot his position switch to PF in the middle of ACC play.

 

[durantula]

I'm staying with Marc Gasol as ceiling.

Bynum was a black hole, and a dominant low post scorer. Not sure Towns is going be a number 1 offensive option.

Kid won't come close to Marc...Marc is the best in the game at his position. This kid will never be as polished as Marc on defensive end.

Dwight> Marc and it aint even close.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Are we all sold on Justise's shooting? His three point shooting seems fairly rock solid (41% on nearly four 3PTA/40) , but his free throw woes give me pause. For the season, he only shot 64%, but his last 20 games he was at a tolerable 72%.

Edit:

Also forgot his position switch to PF in the middle of ACC play.

I absolutly am not and I find the comparisons to James Harden insane.

I love his game for the same reason I liked guys like Kawhi and MKG, they are competitors who play winning basketball. but people are letting his run in march cloud their judgment.

and you guys know how I feel about FT% as it relates to future 3P%, he shot 30% in HS from 3, he shot poorly in FIBA play from the line and from 3. and shot poorly on all non 3 point jumpshtos, I think in the 29% range,

His mechanics are good so I think he can become solid but comparisons to James Harden and talk of the number 1 pick i from some media members I is crazy.


Also nothing is easier for elite SF prospects to do then to play small ball PF's, that's like the inflection point where elite wing prospects have the biggest advantage over college kids. People are down on Stan Johnson and he never got to play small ball PF.


In think Hezonja has a higher ceiling.

 

[pmatic]

Glad I do not feel alone, but gahdammie if Justise doesn't have that dog in him that I love to see in players.

 

[trueprada]

The NBA’s age minimum has created a flood of one-and-done college players. The 2015 NBA Draft will feature 14 freshmen, including lottery locks Jahlil Okafor, D’Angelo Russell and Karl-Anthony Towns.

A total of 91 players—48 players from colleges/post-graduate institutions and 43 international players—have filed as early entry candidates for the

2015 NBA Draft.

The full list of players is below:

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Cliff Alexander Kansas
Justin Anderson Virginia
Brandon Ashley Arizona
Devin Booker Kentucky
Willie Cauley-Stein Kentucky
Sam Dekker Wisconsin
Michael Frazier II Florida
Olivier Hanlan Boston College
Montrezl Harrell Louisville
Aaron Harrison Kentucky
Andrew Harrison Kentucky
Tyler Harvey Eastern Washington
Jerome Hill Gardner-Webb
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson Arizona
RJ Hunter Georgia State
Vince Hunter UTEP
Charles Jackson Tennessee Tech
Dakari Johnson Kentucky
Stanley Johnson Arizona
Tyus Jones Duke
Trevor Lacey North Carolina State
Kevon Looney UCLA
Trey Lyles Kentucky
Jarell Martin LSU
Chris McCullough Syracuse
Jordan Mickey LSU
Jahlil Okafor Duke
Ashton Pankey Manhattan
Cameron Payne Murray State
Terran Petteway Nebraska
Walter Pitchford Nebraska
Bobby Portis Arkansas
Michael Qualls Arkansas
Terry Rozier Louisville
D’Angelo Russell Ohio State
Satnam Singh IMG Academy
Jherrod Stiggers Houston
Deonta Stocks West Georgia
Aaron Thomas Florida State
JP Tokoto North Carolina
Karl-Anthony Towns Kentucky
Myles Turner Texas
Robert Upshaw Washington
Rashad Vaughn UNLV
Chris Walker Florida
Justise Winslow Duke
Christian Wood UNLV

The following is the list of international players who have applied for early entry into the 2015 NBA Draft:

Alberto Abalde Joventut (Spain)
Dimitrios Agravanis Olympiacos (Greece)
Wael Arakji Al Riyadi (Lebanon)
Eleftherios Bochoridis Panathinaikos (Greece)
Beka Burjanadze Coruna (Spain)
Nedim Buza Spars Sarajevo (Bosnia)
Alexandre Chassang ASVEL (France)
George de Paula Pinheiros (Brazil)
Andrey Desyatnikov Zenit St. Petersburg (Russia)
Moussa Diagne Fuenlabrada (Spain)
Lucas Dias Silva Pinheiros (Brazil)
Ognjen Dobric FMP Beograd (Serbia)
Simone Fontecchio Granarolo (Italy)
Danilo Fuzaro Minas (Brazil)
Marc Garcia Manresa (Spain)
Humberto Gomes Pinheiros (Brazil)
Kevin Harley Poitiers (France)
Guillermo Hernangomez Sevilla (Spain)
Juan Alberto Hernangomez Estudiantes (Spain)
Mario Hezonja Barcelona (Spain)
Mouhammadou Jaiteh Nanterre (France)
Alpha Kaba Pau Orthez (France)
Vladislav Korenyuk Dnipro (Ukraine)
Dusan Kutlesic Metalac (Serbia)
Jonghyun Lee Korea University (Korea)
Timothe Luwawu Antibes (France)
Nikola Milutinov Partizan (Serbia)
Aleksej Nikolic Spars Sarajevo (Bosnia)
Cedi Osman Anadolu Efes (Turkey)
Miroslav Pasajlic Uzice (Serbia)
Anzejs Pasecniks VEF Riga (Latvia)
Oriol Pauli Gran Canaria (Spain)
Kristaps Porzingis Sevilla (Spain)
Nikola Radicevic Sevilla (Spain)
Djoko Salic Spars Sarajevo (Bosnia)
Marko Tejic Crvena Zvezda (Serbia)
Juan Pablo Vaulet Bahia Basket (Argentina)
Aleksandar Vezenkov Aris (Greece)
Adin Vrabac Trier (Germany)
Rade Zagorac Mega Leks (Serbia)
Sergiy Zagreba Dnipro (Ukraine)
Alexandr Zhigulin Penas Huesca (Spain)
Paul Zipser Bayern Munich (Germany)