The 2015 NBA Draft Thread: Draft Day Is Here

I guess we have to define as athletic and non-athletic.

Guys like Curry and Kyrie are probably closer to Russell than Westbrook and Wall on the athletic scale.
 
I guess we have to define as athletic and non-athletic.


The 'need' to define is how mistakes are made. :nerd:

For all the guys who have ever worked out in the NBA, their defined weaknesses during the pre-draft process didn't seem to end up hindering them or their success. Compartmentalizing puts GMs out on the street.
 
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As long as Russell can consistently shoot well he should be good ...if not , the track record for big pg's who aren't that athletic isn't pretty


Is the poor track record for non-athletic PG's as of late caused by that specific style no longer working? I don't think it is.

The 2008 NBA Draft began the new breed of PG imo, with two top-5 picks Derrick Rose (No. 1) and Russell Westbrook (No. 4) becoming beacons for a new wave of PG to be geared and primed into the next decade and beyond; a wave of young kids who are watching Rose win the NBA MVP three years later, and Westbrook make the Finals four years later.

A higher frequency of that sort of player + reaffirmation of the style with the success of those carrying the torches early on.... it's no wonder we're seeing less of the non-athletic PGs, because what kids see and who/what they choose to model themselves after is what they see growing up. (For example, as NTers: What style of player were you when you played? I'm sure there was a certain player in the 1990s or 2000s that you said you were like or tried to emulate). It's natural. You see something you like, you model yourself after that.

I don't think that means we're in a time where non-athletic PGs, and the infrequency of non-athletic PGs, means that that style or a player with that style is without merit. It's possibly more valuable.
Curry and Kyrie may not be above the rim or blazing fast but they quickness with the ball is top notch

but random and semi related ...I know yall remember the older , not as athletic pgs in the early to mid 2000's ...guys like Troy bell, mardy Collins , Reece Gaines, acie law, n frank Williams were terrible :lol: :x
 
Potential No. 1 pick Karl-Anthony Towns has his eye on the Knicks

Karl-Anthony Towns and his family couldn’t afford to buy tickets for him to see his beloved New York Knicks during his youth. But if the Ping-Pong balls bounce the right way during Tuesday night’s NBA draft lottery in New York, the potential No. 1 pick could end up playing for the rebuilding franchise that he has watched since he was a child.

“I’ve always been a Knicks fan,” Towns, 19, told Yahoo Sports in a phone interview. “I never was able to afford passes to the games. We were able to afford cable and got the MSG channel so I could watch every Knick game. It made me more of a fan because I could watch every big game.
“My best friend was a Nets fan so it made for a cool rivalry. My favorite player for the Knicks is a tie between Walt Frazier and Patrick Ewing, but I liked Patrick Ewing a lot. But I’ve never been to a Knicks game. I could never afford to go there.”

Towns should soon be able to afford to see the Knicks or any NBA game because he is projected by Draftexpress.com to be the top player in the June 25 draft in New York.

The Knicks have the second-best odds to get the No. 1 pick at 19.9 percent, behind the Minnesota Timberwolves (25 percent). The last time the Knicks had the No. 1 pick was in 1985, when they selected Ewing.

Coming off their worst season in franchise history with 17 wins, the Knicks could certainly use a break by landing Towns. The 6-foot-11, 250-pound freshman averaged 10.3 points, 6.7 rebounds and 2.3 blocks in just 21.1 minutes per game for a deep Kentucky team that advanced to the 2015 Final Four.

“He’s a great prospect who has a chance to be very, very good,” one NBA scout told Yahoo Sports. “Of the bigs in this draft, he has the most defensive potential. Everyone talks about how much more advanced Duke center Jahlil Okafor is offensively, but I don’t know if that’s’ true.

“Towns has deep shooting range and he has a chance to be a stretch big man in the NBA, which he wasn’t able to show at Kentucky. I would say he would be the No. 1 pick.”

While being selected by the Knicks would be a childhood dream for Towns, he says he is open-minded about any team drafting him.

“It would be an honor and a privilege to play for the Knicks organization,” Towns said. “But wherever the chips fall, the chips fall. I just can’t wait to play basketball at the next level.”

Towns may never have had the chance to see the Knicks in person, but he actually played against the NBA’s best players when he was 16.

Following his freshman year at Metuchen (N.J.) St. Joseph’s High School, Towns was on the Dominican Republic team that played against the United States’ national team in an exhibition game in Las Vegas on July 12, 2012. That USA team, which was preparing for the London Olympics, included LeBron James, Anthony Davis and Kevin Durant, but Towns expressed the most excitement at the time about playing against Kobe Bryant. Bryant’s Los Angeles Lakers have the fourth-best odds in the lottery of landing the top pick at 11.9 percent. The third-best odds (15.6 percent) belong to the Philadelphia 76ers.

“The biggest thing I took away from that game was a confidence level that I could play with these players, that I can play with the best of the best,” Towns said. “Kobe talked to me. ... He told me to make sure I keep working hard and he talked about some other things. We had a good conversation.”

Towns was in Los Angeles last Thursday sitting on the baseline not far from the Clippers’ bench as they had a chance to close out the Houston Rockets in Game 6 of the second-round series.

In the third NBA game he’s ever attended, he witnessed the Clippers blow a 19-point lead in the second half before falling 119-107 to the Rockets. The Rockets won Game 7 on Sunday to advance to the Western Conference finals.

“NBA games are never over until the final horn,” said Towns, who had previously attended a pair of Nets games that didn’t quite compare to Game 6. “You have to keep playing and keep fighting. I was stunned. That was a big deficit.

“It was really awesome. I was just wishing I was on the other side actually playing.”
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I know there's Hardwood Classics and MSG Classics, but Towns wasn't even five the last time Ewing was playing for the Knicks.
 
 
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last place team hasnt won lottery since 04 
 
last place team hasnt won lottery since 04 


And the reason Hinkie runs out the Richmond Oilers is because none of that matters man, unless you're trying to make the point that the lottery is flawed (it is of course, but teams will still make blatant lunges giving themselves the greatest odds of winning it).

Other 1 in 4's didn't work out because that's all it is, a 1 in 4. The Timberwolves 25% odds are the best, but that still means it's the Timberwolves' 25% vs. 13 other lottery teams' 75% combined. There's a reason Langston Galloway and Tim Hardaway Jr. were the Knicks leading scorers, and it's because over a longer time period - as we move into the future - the No. 1's 25% will breakthrough more times than the other picks to, even the No. 3 has broken through more times at this point in time.

Time will, eventually, bring things back to the mean.
 
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I was a Nats game for that 2013 draft refreshing the ESPN app.

I remember thinking it must have been an error when I saw Anthony Bennett pop up @ #1.
 
I dont think you need the #1 pick to justify tanking. 1-3 and to some extent 1-5 justifies it. 1-3 for sure should be worth it, your chance of getting a "cant" miss prospect are relatively high picking 1-3
 
I dont think you need the #1 pick to justify tanking. 1-3 and to some extent 1-5 justifies it. 1-3 for sure should be worth it, your chance of getting a "cant" miss prospect are relatively high picking 1-3

in this draft if you're picking 1-5 you're getting an impact player from day 1 imo. then you got Porzingis, WCS, Stan Johnson, Hezonja, etc in the 2nd half of the lottery.

very deep draft imo
 
I'll give him 2 more years max.

He's headed for the first #1 overall pick to be out of the league after their rookie deal though.
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Lol man if he was the #1 pick my lil cousin better get #1 too he puttin up better numbers than that fat *** did lol...
 
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