The 2015 NBA Draft Thread: Draft Day Is Here

[BIG LEEMELONE]

I see this is the year of the epic workout video . Definitely the most hyped up draft class in a minute

 

[johnnyredstorm]

If you're goal is to rebuild idk why you would even want to risk being good and messing up your chance to draft the best overall talent.

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

The human element guys

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

The knicks were also a joke. Milwaukee was actually trying to make the playoffs when they got jabari and the wolves were riddled with injuries. It was also kinda shady how they traded McDaniels to a team where he couldn't get off the bench and earn his money but that's a risk he took. There is such a thing as good and bad karma, it's not just same quack idea

 

[rck3sactown]

young me was heartbroken when Bron chose Miami

the birds were blue & orange!

you were in the 5th grade still 

 

[stillin729]

Embiid bout to turn into Oden and ruin it all for me

Please still let me have D'Angelo, ya feel me Lakers?

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

The knicks were also a joke. Milwaukee was actually trying to make the playoffs when they got jabari and the wolves were riddled with injuries. It was also kinda shady how they traded McDaniels to a team where he couldn't get off the bench and earn his money but that's a risk he took. There is such a thing as good and bad karma, it's not just same quack idea

How do you "try" to make the playoffs and end up with 15 wins?

What went wrong: Everything. Everything went wrong. Injuries, bad signings, bad play, bad coaching, bad everything. The Bucks tried to build themselves to be a playoff team last offseason, adding players and making deals. But it all blew up completely in their faces and they quickly dissolved into one of the three worst teams in the league.

http://mweb.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24488669/season-in-review-rip-milwaukee-bucks

 

[nick.]

young me was heartbroken when Bron chose Miami

the birds were blue & orange!!

you were in the 5th grade still 

just starting HS :\

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

Right...because signing OJ Mayo and trading for Knight screams playoffs.

At the end of the day...they ended up worse than the team you're criticizing for tanking and they reaped the benefits of a high draft pick just the same. so again, what difference does it make?

Prediction time: How far will the Bucks go this season?

Arnovitz: I've got them as a playoff team, either as the No. 7 or No. 8 seed, but they don't have the firepower offensively to score on a Miami, Chicago or Indiana defense in a seven-game series.


Chau: Not far enough. The Bucks will narrowly miss the playoffs, which unfortunately means no one on the roster will be able to continue Jennings' lasting legacy of predicting a 4-2 series win over the Heat in the first round.

Ford: I think a lot of people think the Bucks will be awful this season. I don't. I think they have a real shot at a 7- or 8-seed in the East. They have a deep bench and a good mixture of vets and young players. If their young guys step up, they'll surprise a lot of people.

Herbert: The Bucks will be fighting for a playoff berth with the other Eastern Conference teams in transition years. They'll be in the race to the end, but will likely miss out and find themselves with another late lottery pick.

Schmidt: Playoffs. The bottom of the East is weak enough that teams like the Bucks will be able to avoid any long losing streaks. Milwaukee should have a defense good enough to keep them in most games and shooting that could win them a couple of unexpected games. If they have just enough good luck, the No. 7 seed will be in play.

http://espn.go.com/nba/preview2013/story/_/page/5-on-5-1314mil/2013-14-outlook-milwaukee-bucks


You're still looking only at draft order. It's like saying if I rob an old lady for 200$ or go to work and earn it what's the difference? It's about business ethics and culture

 

[NickFolarin]

The funny thing about the Philly tank is they get WORSE every year, and there collection of talent decreases. Trading MCW & McDaniels hurt them because those were two young, quality NBA players with upside. Never heard of a NBA rebuilding team trading assets! 

 

 

[ballinsam23]

^^ your avy is the definiton of rebuilding gone wrong and just straight up unlucky :x

 

[NickFolarin]

^^ your avy is the definiton of rebuilding gone wrong and just straight up unlucky

I know, it's so funny 

 

[NickFolarin]

 

 
The funny thing about the Philly tank is they get WORSE every year, and there collection of talent decreases. Trading MCW & McDaniels hurt them because those were two young, quality NBA players with upside. Never heard of a NBA rebuilding team trading assets! 

It's been happening for 2 years and they have a one win difference between both years. Worse every year?

How long is it that you dudes think this has been going on?

What do hey have to show for it, besides Noel?

 

[hypebeast5]

If you're goal is to rebuild idk why you would even want to risk being good and messing up your chance to draft the best overall talent.

Basically. Dudes are really making a big deal about Philly, when in BOTH seasons of their tanking...3 teams managed to have records worse than them. Milwaukee in 13-14, and Minnesota and New York this year.

How come they aren't being killed in here like Phila is?

Phila is going about it all wrong, Timberwolves dealt with injuries, Milwaukee made the playoffs this season and the knicks were screwed into this situation but at least they are trying to be competitive

MGM and Leemealone got the idea, of at least attempting to be competitive, signing free agents that can help your team, not trading some of the only assets yalll got and so on

 

[mgrand15]

Basically agree with that. You can rebuild and still -try- to be competitive. It's one thing to win 25 games with a mix of vets and young guys. Come into the season with hopes of improving, developing a handful of guys, etc. Lakers, Magic, Celtics, Minnesota have done this. Milwaukee is another. It's another thing to field a D-league team with one or two POTENTIAL NBA players. There is a middle ground between what Philly did and being a perennial 8th seed.


Hopefully with this pick, Embiid/Saric coming in - Philly decides to atleast start picking up NBA players and letting these rooks play with some sort of structure and veteran guidance.

Minnesota did it and still ended up with a record worse than Philly...so what difference does it make how they go about it?

Cause it's not just about winning. It's about having core young guys playing around decent talent. You can put them in actual NBA situations with NBA players and see how they respond. If they don't play well, you know they're part of the problem. If they play well, you can move forward with them. You can do that while still being bad. You can sign NBA role players and still have a bad record and end up with a bad pick.

I know I'd much rather have an NBA PG running the PNR with Noel or feeding Embiid in the post - to see how they respond vs. signing a DLeaguer to do it so you don't "risk" winning.

 

[junglejim]

Phila is going about it all wrong, Timberwolves dealt with injuries, Milwaukee made the playoffs this season and the knicks were screwed into this situation but at least they are trying to be competitive

MGM and Leemealone got the idea, of at least attempting to be competitive, signing free agents that can help your team, not trading some of the only assets yalll got and so on

Are you kidding me? The knicks sat their superstar as soon as they found out they didn't have a chance and traded away half their starters for circus peanuts. At least Philadelphia got a good first round pick out of the MCW trade. What did the Knicks get for JR and Shumpert? A second rounder? What they did was just as bad if not worse than what the Sixers have been doing.

 

[NickFolarin]

Milwaukee's young assets - Jabari Parker, MCW, Greek Freak, Middleton, Henson, Tyler Ennis

Minnesota's young assets - Wiggins, LaVine, Anthony Bennett, Rubio, Gorgui Dieng, Shabazz Muhammad, Adreian Payne (maybe???) 

Philadelphia's young assets - Nerleans Noel, Jerami Grant (maybe???)

 

[hypebeast5]

They sat Carmelo as soon as they found out he was hurt, and the they are still recieving criticism for that trade of shump and JR, but they havent been as bad as Philly

And goin forward they most likely will make more moves to better than roster than Philly but only time will tell, so we gotta see how this offseason goes

 

[kn0wledgeable]

Are you kidding me? The knicks sat their superstar as soon as they found out they didn't have a chance and traded away half their starters for circus peanuts. At least Philadelphia got a good first round pick out of the MCW trade. What did the Knicks get for JR and Shumpert? A second rounder? What they did was just as bad if not worse than what the Sixers have been doing.

their main intent was clearing cap space. phil has said he will rebuild more through free agency

 

[addict4sneakers]

James Anderson started for the 6ers in the 13-14 season and averaged double figures. He couldn't get a job the 14-15 season.

 

[NickFolarin]

 

 
What do hey have to show for it, besides Noel?

Embiid and soon to be D'Angelo Russell. which was the point.

Tank and stockpile high lottery picks.

What part of that don't ya'll understand?

For the 15th time, rebuilding is not a 1-2 year process...and they just finished year 2. Ya'll are acting like they've been doing this for the past 5-10 years or something.

Embiid? The guy who has never touched a NBA court & just had an announcement of having a setback just YESTERDAY? And D'Angelo Russell who isn't even on the roster yet? Good sir you have a bit TOO MUCH faith. Embiid sat out the entire year. He could come back and dominate like Blake Griffin, or fall apart like Greg Oden, with the latter becoming more likely after yesterday.  

 

[NickFolarin]

When did this become "let's compare assets"? We're talking the past two seasons...why are you bringing up Rubio, Middleton, etc.?

Rubio is 24 years old and Kris Middleton is 23 years old.

That's the definition of YOUNG ASSETS. 

 

[hypebeast5]

They sat Carmelo as soon as they found out he was hurt, and the they are still recieving criticism for that trade of shump and JR, but they havent been as bad as Philly


And goin forward they most likely will make more moves to better than roster than Philly but only time will tell, so we gotta see how this offseason goes

Bruh...they finished WORSE than Philly. what are you talking about?

Bro im saying they will actually try to move forward like sign free agents, and you know things of that nature

While Philly most likely will sign d league players to fill the roster

Doesnt matter where they ended this season, its about where they envision themselves going the next, 1 team will try to win while 1 will try to lose... Big Difference

 

[junglejim]

Milwaukee's young assets - Jabari Parker, MCW, Greek Freak, Middleton, Henson, Tyler Ennis

Minnesota's young assets - Wiggins, LaVine, Anthony Bennett, Rubio, Gorgui Dieng, Shabazz Muhammad, Adreian Payne (maybe???) 

Philadelphia's young assets - Nerleans Noel, Jerami Grant (maybe???)

Embiid? Saric? Lakers lotto pick next year? Russell? Did you just forget about those or what?

 

[hypebeast5]

Embiid? The guy who has never touched a NBA court & just had an announcement of having a setback just YESTERDAY? And D'Angelo Russell who isn't even on the roster yet? Good sir you have a bit TOO MUCH faith. Embiid sat out the entire year. He could come back and dominate like Blake Griffin, or fall apart like Greg Oden, with the latter becoming more likely after yesterday.  

Work on your comprehension skills. You asked a question and I answered it.

You asked what did they have to show for? And since you're being literal...replace D'Angelo Rusell with "TOP 3 PICK" and my statement still stands.

Ya'll are acting like they're supposed to field a great team after two seasons.

At the end of the day...they're doing what EVERY TEAM that has done a full rebuild had to do...except they're just blatantly doing it.

No one is saying they should be great, even good, just not this bad, as for the blatant tanking they recieve this criticism for the being the first team to do this ever thats the problem with them