The 2015 NBA Draft Thread: Draft Day Is Here

i don't blame Towns..he got his for the most part when he got touches

the Harrison's looked like they were never taught how to throw an entry pass
 
What I meant was more along the lines of, Wisconsin played him the perfect way defensively, and wasn't a factor all game. He's a top pick no doubt, but holes were there and attacked. Kudos to Bo Ryan.
 
cleansneaksonly21 said:
What I meant was more along the lines of, Wisconsin played him the perfect way defensively, and wasn't a factor all game. He's a top pick no doubt, but holes were there and attacked. Kudos to Bo Ryan.
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Not really sure what you are talking about. The twins failed ot make basic entry passes.
 
WCS doesn't post up so no entry passes were to him.

He's primarily a PnR, so they sat his defender back and dared him and the twins to be great.

They obviously weren't.

2 pts and 5 rebs... not a great day at the office.
 
i really want a team to give Quinn Cook a shot in the late 2nd round
 
The only good thing u can argue that the nba age limit has done is showing how much some players suck despite their hs hype ...going into his Freshman year Drew Harrison was In the top 10 on the draft board, best pg in the draft :lol: :smh:

Quinn Cook should go b4 both Harrison's if they all get drafted
 
JohnnyRedStorm said:
durantula said:
Vincent Van Ho said:
durantula said:
Im disappointed in KAT more than anything, he shouldve been man handling Kaminsky. Really wanted to see that duke kentucky game :smh: |I
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7-11, 16 and 9 

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Not saying he didnt play good, Im sad he didnt DOMINATE
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at the college level those numbers are pretty impressive.
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They are, again I'm not saying he didnt play good, but 16 points against a guy you have 20lbs on isnt dominating at all. Alot of people in here are saying its on the twins/Cal which may be true, but I just didnt see him going on the block and trying to do what he did against Notre Dame. Again, maybe thats on Cal, but personally I think Cal is too smart to not go to KAT if he didnt have a reason.
 
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They are, again I'm not saying he didnt play good, but 16 points against a guy you have 20lbs on isnt dominating at all. Alot of people in here are saying its on the twins/Cal which may be true, but I just didnt see him going on the block and trying to do what he did against Notre Dame. Again, maybe thats on Cal, but personally I think Cal is too smart to not go to KAT if he didnt have a reason.
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Some of you guys seem to live outside of reality.:lol:

Towns is 250, Kaminsky is 242 and 3 years older.

Melanin in your skin doesn't weigh anything.
 
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Goodman:
NBA scouts' Final Four reaction

The 2015 Final Four was loaded with NBA prospects. In fact, one NBA general manager told ESPN that if everyone who played Saturday made themselves available for this year's NBA draft, 14 could be drafted overall -- and 10 could be selected in the first round.

We spoke to a handful of NBA scouts and executives after their performances to find out who helped themselves, and who didn't, during Saturday's action:

Karl-Anthony Towns, Kentucky (No. 1 in Jeff Goodman Mock Draft 3.0)

"[Kentucky coach John] Calipari needed to get the ball to him more. The guy was having his way when the ball found him in the post. He's so long and versatile, but he doesn't force anything. I didn't think he played his best game, but he's still either the first or second pick."

"I thought he was average. Nothing special. He was good on the offensive glass, but other than that he cannot command a double-team."

"Good feet and hands. Lots of upside, but I'm worried about the strength in his legs. Not a lot of lift in the post. Scores in the post. Should be able to extend his range."

"He's a top-two pick and still may go [No. 1]. Very bright future."

"Towns was solid. Showed his ability to score when they throw him the ball. His last game didn't do anything to hurt the argument he could go No. 1."

Jahlil Okafor, Duke (No. 2 in Jeff Goodman Mock Draft 3.0)

"Okafor dominated -- paint points and took up space. He didn't rebound at a high level, but did a solid job putting a body on someone, and he kept others off the glass. Free throw shooting continues to plague him."

"He was efficient, and did what he does. He scores in the post with a variety of moves, rebounds well, and finishes. He was just OK defensively, but it didn't matter against Michigan State's big men."

"He proved he is the top pick. He was mobile, aggressive and dominant."

"He's the most NBA-ready player in the draft -- and he showed that tonight."

"Big-time skill level inside. He continues to show the potential to be a go-to guy offensively. Has to get better at the other end. He'll be either the No. 1 or 2 pick."

Willie Cauley-Stein, Kentucky (No. 8 in Jeff Goodman Mock Draft 3.0)

"Cauley-Stein couldn't impact the game. Wisconsin had an unbelievable game plan, and minimized his presence. It won't change his stock, but he was exposed as challenged offensively."

"He's an acquired taste. He has to fit into a system. He will never be an offensive, go-to guy, but his ability to guard is unparalleled. He moves his feet like no big. In a league that lives in screen-and-roll, he is the best big screen/roll defender in the college game because of his feet."

"He's the best 7-foot athlete I've ever seen. Somewhere between Tyson Chandler and Kenyon Martin. I think his offense has gotten better and his defense can change the game."

"Cauley-Stein won't be hurt by one game. He has had a terrific season and in this one showed his unique athleticism. Top 5."

Justise Winslow, Duke (No. 11 in Jeff Goodman Mock Draft 3.0)

"Winslow made the most of his opportunities. He created offense with his defense, did a great job of rebounding. He overcame some bum calls. Got to the line, had active hands and was solid at both ends. He has solidified himself as a two-way player. I'm not sure I trust his shooting stroke. He needs a lot of work to become a consistent threat from the perimeter."

"He helped himself immensely, because he has been on an upward trajectory, and he did it on a big stage tonight."

"He's one of my favorite guys -- if not my favorite -- in this year's draft. He is all over the place on both ends. He's diving, he rebounds his position and can drive it. He can go as high as three or four overall, and won't go any lower than 10."

"He's playing power forward, but he's a beast going to the basket. Multiple-position defender that can be elite. As his offense continues to develop to go with the body and defense, he has a bright future. He'll be a lottery pick for sure."

"He's really improved from the start of the season. His handle needs to improve in traffic, and he needs to become a better shooter off the bounce. He's a top-10 pick."

Devin Booker, Kentucky (No. 12 in Jeff Goodman Mock Draft 3.0)

"He's lottery. Scores easy and is an excellent shooter. Got switched out too often vs. length and can't guard taller guys effectively."

"Should come back because he is a long way to go -- he had no idea how to play with the twins and those bigs. He can be the next Bradley Beal, but in a year -- not now. He will sit next year and not get better if he comes out."

"Great size for a shooter. Great stroke. Needs to get better at creating his own shot, but he's a lottery pick."

Frank Kaminsky, Wisconsin (No. 14 in Jeff Goodman Mock Draft 3.0)

"He was tremendous on the offensive end and stayed out of foul trouble. He got whatever he wanted, and is so versatile. I thought he was overall the best player on the floor and he's gone from anonymous to a possible lottery pick now."

"Below NBA standards athletically, but very sharp basketball IQ and confidence."

"He's a matchup problem for anyone because of the way he handles it, and how he shoots it. He is one of the most versatile bigs in recent memory because of his skill set."

"Showed a great basketball IQ and tremendous footwork in the post. He put the ball on the floor from the high post. Good passer. Will be good with pick-and-pop. Not a very good athlete, but the performance against Kentucky will help him. Good shooter."

"Kaminsky played as well as you could have vs. Kentucky's bigs. Continues to show excellent skills for his size. Lottery."

Trey Lyles, Kentucky (No. 16 in Jeff Goodman Mock Draft 3.0)

"He's skilled, but just doesn't get enough touches. I'm not sure that [would] change next season. I think he goes somewhere from 15 to 20 because of his skill level."

"He's an enigma. Has a chance to be really good, but the system was not set up to make him shine."

"Lots of upside. Good feet and moves well laterally. Very good shooter to 17 feet. Needs to extend his range."

Sam Dekker, Wisconsin (No. 22 in Jeff Goodman Mock Draft 3.0)

"Solidified himself. Made some amazing plays and took big [guts] shots. His handle is wild at times, but he was effective."

"He didn't do much for a long stretch of the game, but he stepped up again when it counted. No one has boosted their stock more in this tournament. He was a late-first-rounder a couple weeks ago. Now he's a lottery pick."

"He's raised his stock in a huge way. He has the confidence of Rocky Balboa right now."

"Great size for a 3. Good athlete. Explosive off the floor. Ballhandling needs to improve in traffic. Plays erect ... could be a very good defensive player. Played very well in the NCAA tournament which will help in draft. Top-20 pick. Needs to become a better shooter. If you look at the slot of his baskets in tournament they were against much smaller defenders -- I don't see this happening in the NBA."

"Dekker continued his great play of the last couple of weeks. He seems to really have found his groove, solidifying him in the first round."

Dakari Johnson, Kentucky (No. 30 in Jeff Goodman Mock Draft 3.0)

"He is what he is. He has good size and can score in the post, but the problem is he was stuck behind Cauley-Stein and Towns. I think he could have given Kaminsky some problems -- if they ever threw him the ball."

"He's one of the most underrated bigs in the country. He should come back because he will be a focal point of UK's system next year and be a lottery pick. But if he chooses to leave, he will get picked late in the first round and make someone look like a genius."

"Limited low-post game, but has improved. Late-first-round pick. Plays through contact. Rebounds in traffic. Solid backup."

Tyus Jones, Duke

"He was just solid tonight, but he didn't need to be more than that. He just makes people better and controls the game. Uses angles well, and knows how to play. I think he's a guy who will be drafted somewhere from 15 to 25."

"Tyus Jones continues to help himself as a solid playmaker with court vision and coach-like instincts. He makes the game easy for his teammates -- delivers the ball in the right spots and to the correct hand. He's an efficient player."

"He's a coach on the floor. He doesn't blow you away with the highlights, but he just makes you win. Will probably be drafted lower than he should be, but will gain the trust of his coach and be a long-time starter in the league. Has shown the ability to make big shots, even though shooting the ball is secondary to him."

"He's solid, but I don't know if he's anything more than an NBA backup at the end of the day."

"Tyus is small, but mighty. A true point guard that can play at a variety of speeds."

Andrew Harrison, Kentucky

"The twins will have a tough next few days, but they will both play in the NBA. For the obvious flaws, both have size and can shoot, make plays and played hard. Just insane how they tried to take over."

"He and his brother are nothing more than roster players. Really struggles to create their own shot. Not good shooters. Mid-second-round picks."

"He's not as good as he thinks he is."

Aaron Harrison, Kentucky

"Did not shrink from the spotlight, but didn't make his team better. The twins hijacked the game down the stretch. Towns should have had every touch."

"The Harrisons had great first halves but then faded in the second. They have helped themselves down the stretch of the season and both have a chance to be second-round guys."

"Like his brother, he's not as good as he thinks he is. They both have an overinflated value of their worth."

"His entire game is based on hitting big shots. He's a mediocre shooter and doesn't do much else. Second-rounder."
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Will Booker develop more if he stays or if he goes pro and utilitizes everything the league has to offer?
 
jm2000 said:
Will Booker develop more if he stays or if he goes pro and utilitizes everything the league has to offer?
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No 1st rounder develops more by staying in college.

That's just a scout saying I would perfer a 20 year old booker on a rookie deal instead of a 19 year old.
 
Cal saying WCS, Towns, Lyles, Booker & the Harrisons "likely" leaving school.
 
PMatic said:
Goodman:
NBA scouts' Final Four reaction

Willie Cauley-Stein, Kentucky (No. 8 in Jeff Goodman Mock Draft 3.0)

"Cauley-Stein couldn't impact the game. Wisconsin had an unbelievable game plan, and minimized his presence. It won't change his stock, but he was exposed as challenged offensively."

"He's an acquired taste. He has to fit into a system. He will never be an offensive, go-to guy, but his ability to guard is unparalleled. He moves his feet like no big. In a league that lives in screen-and-roll, he is the best big screen/roll defender in the college game because of his feet."
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Hmph... that's all I was saying.

Wisky played the perfect gameplan.

Ball screen is an NBA staple tho so he should at minimum be Birdman offensively putbacks and dunks 95% of his scoring.
 
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