Jordan XI '72-10' Release Date: 12/12/15

I think this post is very flawed. The value of your time as a person isn't based on how much money you make. Just because someone makes 5 bucks an hour doesn't mean they should adjust their price based on that dollar amount.

Now how much you make an hour will affect whether or not your willing to go through the hastle of reselling.


To say that your time is only as valuable as what corporate America dictates it to be is a slap in the face.
That's your opinion, I have mine. Going through the trouble of filling a raffle ticket and driving to the mall to pick up shoes is about as easy as coloring a coloring book. Some people overvalue their time and efforts and some people value it based on fair "economics" so to speak.

Personally, how much I make an hour, my lifestyle, the fact I have a family and kids, the fact I run a business...all of these factors influence my pricing if I decide to re-sell a pair of sneakers that I put some effort into attaining. My whole point is that one's own life situation is going to determine one's own pricing engine because each of us have our own different sets of "overhead."

Therefore, a college kid for example, who only works part-time at $12 per hour, who doesn't have a family, who has minimal bills to pay, may only re-sell his shoes for $60 above retail because to him, the $60 would be enough to cover his "costs." Meanwhile, someone who works 60 hours a week and barely has enough time to play his guitar because he has a two year old, a 5-year old, and an 8-year old, but has a passion for J's and decides to play the raffle and is able to cop a few pairs on release date, may decide that he will charge at least $100 over retail in order to recoupe his costs.

In the re-selling game, to each his own. That's why as a buyer, it's up to you to determine what "brand" of seller you have and distinguish if you have the type of re-seller who doesn't budge or the type who is content with a $50 profit.
 
Lol. This is true. I've been on NT for 15 years now. My goal is always to help out as many NTers as I possibly can. I try to sell for lower than what anybody else sells for. That's why I always move my product so fast...
Well if that's the case, then good for you. Decent profit margins at high volume is better than low volume at higher profit margins, especially at the Air Jordan re-sell game.

So let me ask you this, what's your re-sell price on the following shoes?

Assume all are DS...

1. Air Jordan 11 "72-10" Men's Size

2. Air Jordan 4 "Bred" 2012 Men's Size

3. Air Jordan 4 "Cool Grey" 2004 Men's Size

4. Air Jordan 3 "White Cement" 2011 Men's Size

5. Air Jordan 1 "Chicago" 2015 Men's Size
 
Yawn.

What are you talking about? I am KING reseller. Did you miss when I said I bought 30 pairs? I have no bitterness level towards resellers...especially since I'm one.


Nobody gives a. Since you like boasting about your silly 30 pairs of 11s, I can play that game too. I've re-sold over a thousand pairs in my lifetime since 1996. Everyone knows me on Craigslist. I personally know the owners of the major consignment shops in Los Angeles and Orange County. I have hundreds of buyer references. But since Jordan Brand has re-strategized their position and is now essentially eliminating the re-seller market for NEW RELEASES, I have adjusted to only re-selling older heat and harder to find retros from pre-2013. If you're "KING" then I'm the re-selling "GOD" LOL

Who's boasting? I bought the least amount of pairs out of most of my friends who resell. You chose to originally add your input and address me as if I had a problem with reselling. All of my replies have simply been me defending the fact that I don't have a problem with resellers because I am a reseller myself. All of that other gibberish you put means a hill of beans to me simply because I in no way called you out.
 
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Ct niketalkers...Walk and Run in West Hartford had close to a full size run as of this morning. They didn't have 11.5 or 12. Hope someone gets a pair!
 
Also, why the need to go hard on resellers? Take that negativity to social media or something and off of here. This is the last thread that needs that crap guys.

Like honestly, dudes have been eating pretty good for retail and resell isn't bad either. That's a good thing. Just be happy and worry about yours.
 
[@=/u/41243/AirForce1King]@AirForce1King[/@] still didn't answer my question. Why the seller got to be an idiot though? He just a squirrel tryna to get a nut *pause* in the same game you playing too. Pay that tax and surprise the girl
Word.

I didn't even see his post because again, I have him blocked. As far as why I called him an idiot, because I felt like it. He's my boy and we're always calling each other names. I'm gonna screen shot this post and send it to him where I called him an idiot. No harm, no foul.
 
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Who's boasting? I bought the least amount of pairs out of most of my friends who resell. You chose to originally add your input and address me as if I had a problem with reselling. All of my replies have simply been me defending the fact that I don't have a problem with resellers because I am a reseller myself. All of that other gibberish you put means a hill of beans to me simply because I in no way called you out.
I know you didn't call me out. But Sole Blessed and I are trying to get to the MEAT of the subject. Why did you call the guy an "idiot" just because he was charging $315? That's only $78 mark-up, which is in all honesty not that bad. In fact, that's an average markup for these shoes. So therefore, why he gotta be an "idiot?"

If it were me, I'd just move on to the next re-seller because I know (especially out here in Los Angeles) I can get a sz 7.5 for $280 if I negotiated it right.
 
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That's your opinion, I have mine. Going through the trouble of filling a raffle ticket and driving to the mall to pick up shoes is about as easy as coloring a coloring book. Some people overvalue their time and efforts and some people value it based on fair "economics" so to speak.

Personally, how much I make an hour, my lifestyle, the fact I have a family and kids, the fact I run a business...all of these factors influence my pricing if I decide to re-sell a pair of sneakers that I put some effort into attaining. My whole point is that one's own life situation is going to determine one's own pricing engine because each of us have our own different sets of "overhead."

Therefore, a college kid for example, who only works part-time at $12 per hour, who doesn't have a family, who has minimal bills to pay, may only re-sell his shoes for $60 above retail because to him, the $60 would be enough to cover his "costs." Meanwhile, someone who works 60 hours a week and barely has enough time to play his guitar because he has a two year old, a 5-year old, and an 8-year old, but has a passion for J's and decides to play the raffle and is able to cop a few pairs on release date, may decide that he will charge at least $100 over retail in order to recoupe his costs.

In the re-selling game, to each his own. That's why as a buyer, it's up to you to determine what "brand" of seller you have and distinguish if you have the type of re-seller who doesn't budge or the type who is content with a $50 profit.
This post drives that point home a little more. I feel what your saying to a degree. Just like businesses, some people are in to make max profit on their price, others are about moving units and making a small amount on each pair. What I'm trying to say is that just because someone makes 10 bucks an hour at their job, doesn't mean that their life is worth that price. Its also not about how hard it is to put in the work to get the product. It is the fact that you have the product and others don't. Just because I wake up at 6:57 order a pair online at 7 and then resell it after its shipped to my house doesn't mean that I should have to lower my price because I only make 10 bucks an hour.

An engineer making 50 dollars an hour is still selling the same product as a minimum wage worker. I will say that you are correct when saying that the dollar amount you make can influence your price points.
 
Also, why the need to go hard on resellers? Take that negativity to social media or something and off of here. This is the last thread that needs that crap guys.

Like honestly, dudes have been eating pretty good for retail and resell isn't bad either. That's a good thing. Just be happy and worry about yours.
I completely agree. No need to talk down on re-sellers and call them idiots because a lot of them help "feed" the "homeless."

My thing is this: If you contact the re-seller and don't like his price on an "aftermarket GR pair", move on to the next one because re-sellers are a dime a dozen in this league.
 
I didn't even see his post because again, I have him blocked. As far as why I called him an idiot, because I felt like it. He's my boy and we're always calling each other names. I'm gonna screen shot this post and send it to him where I called him an idiot. No harm, no foul.
Well then that explains it. But at first glance, I'm sure people here took it literally and out of context. If he weren't your buddy, would you still think the re-seller is being outrageous and unfair for charging $315?
 
I didn't even see his post because again, I have him blocked. As far as why I called him an idiot, because I felt like it. He's my boy and we're always calling each other names. I'm gonna screen shot this post and send it to him where I called him an idiot. No harm, no foul.
So Your Blocking A Potential Customer because I asked a simple question? So much for Brotherly Love helping people out NT :smh:. Blocking = a bihhh made move. Face a question instead of ignore
 
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I completely agree. No need to talk down on re-sellers and call them idiots because a lot of them help "feed" the "homeless."

My thing is this: If you contact the re-seller and don't like his price on an "aftermarket GR pair", move on to the next one because re-sellers are a dime a dozen in this league.
+1
 
 
This post drives that point home a little more. I feel what your saying to a degree. Just like businesses, some people are in to make max profit on their price, others are about moving units and making a small amount on each pair. What I'm trying to say is that just because someone makes 10 bucks an hour at their job, doesn't mean that their life is worth that price. Its also not about how hard it is to put in the work to get the product. It is the fact that you have the product and others don't. Just because I wake up at 6:57 order a pair online at 7 and then resell it after its shipped to my house doesn't mean that I should have to lower my price because I only make 10 bucks an hour.

An engineer making 50 dollars an hour is still selling the same product as a minimum wage worker. I will say that you are correct when saying that the dollar amount you make can influence your price points.
Fair enough, i totally get what you're saying. You make some valid points
 
I completely agree. No need to talk down on re-sellers and call them idiots because a lot of them help "feed" the "homeless."

My thing is this: If you contact the re-seller and don't like his price on an "aftermarket GR pair", move on to the next one because re-sellers are a dime a dozen in this league.

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Am i missing something here? When did Re-sellers become missionaries?
 
Am i missing something here? When did Re-sellers become missionaries?
Lol...figurative meaning bro....The homeless are hungry = buyers who don't own the shoes are starving for them. Re-sellers will help provide the "food." In this regard, they are providing a benefit, but at a cost to the buyer but I never said they were missionaries. Re-Sellers are not sent by a church or sneaker group to a certain area to help cultivate economic development.
 
Lol...figurative meaning bro....The homeless are hungry = buyers who don't own the shoes are starving for them. Re-sellers will help provide the "food." In this regard, they are providing a benefit, but at a cost to the buyer but I never said they were missionaries. Re-Sellers are not sent by a church or sneaker group to a certain area to help cultivate economic development.
NT doesn't read and decipher for themselves anymore :smh: but +1 understood the previous message but thanks for the breakdown.
 
 
BUYER VS. RE-SELLER FORMULA FOR FAIR NEGOTIATIONS

Cost to the Re-seller for the sz 7.5 = $237

Re-seller's asking price = $325

Re-seller's desired profit = $88 for his time and efforts

Time spent by the re-seller to obtain the shoes = 1.5 hours to sign up for raffle, 1.5 hours to pick up shoes on RD, 3 total hours

Figure out what re-seller does for a living and multiply by number of hours he spent to obtain the shoes = 3 hours X customer service rep ($15/hr) = $45

Total Price Buyer should pay: $237 + $45 = $282

Now if the re-seller you're dealing with is a highly paid professional (i.e., mortgage banker, nurse, director, etc) who makes $30-$100 per hour and his time is worth as such, he most likely won't budge that much on his price because Time is Money. I suggest moving on and find another re-seller whose time ain't worth as much for his efforts.
someone gets it. 
 
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