Jordan XI '72-10' Release Date: 12/12/15

Foamposite XI said:
I don't give a damn how much better the fakes look. I'd rather have a bad looking pair from Foot Locker than a good looking pair from Taobao.
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he's delusional. the whole sample/PE/early release game is locked up so much tighter than people realize. especially after the law suit that happened last year with one of the promotional managers who pretended to act on behlaf of nike so that he could have pairs made by the nike contracted factory and sell them too collectors. Even at that point he had to pick them up from nike headquarters in person after they were made and shipped. DJ delz definitely doesn't have that kind of pull with nike, if any at all. 


http://www.oregonlive.com/beaverton/index.ssf/2014/12/ex-nike_employee_pleads_guilty.html
 
Listen, when it comes to the GM/Grey/Unauthorized whatever you want to call it, the fact of the matter is that you most likely seen a first look picture of said pairs at this point

This fake thing isnt nothing new, this has been going on for a long time now, its just that since the sneaker game is much more popular now, and we live in a social network world where you can be a new meme in a matter of seconds, more people are in the know on legit colorways and how a legit pair looks like, hence why we dont see these fake sites promoting spongebob dub zeros and obama 13's as hard as they did in the 2000's

They have gotten really good on making fakes, technology has gotten way better to the point where a fake pair looks better than a real pair

All these Ig pages that have shoes early, majority are unauthorized, but we dont know for sure because the quality on these are so good. JB cares about this but at the end of the day its free marketing for them, sure they might be taking potential money from them but when release day comes the shoe sells out now because of that same Ig page that promoted the shoe 6 months prior to release

So yea DJ Delz might have a unauthorized pair in his video, or your popular friend on IG is showing off his pair already, if your not a JB athlete, celeb, rich or a famous sneaker connoisseur then we all know where it came from, no need to bash or scold them for it, some are not as educated as us on NT and some could care less, on the outside looking in, we might be considered idiots for paying $500 plus on a retail pair when they are getting it for a 5th of that, but thats why we are on this board, for the love of the game

The game is not exclusive anymore, as you can see at the link posted above ^ dudes were making unauthorized PE's and making a FORTUNE, just be careful out here ladies and gents...
 
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1C3M4M said:
Listen, when it comes to the GM/Grey/Unauthorized whatever you want to call it, the fact of the matter is that you most likely seen a first look picture of said pairs at this point

This fake thing isnt nothing new, this has been going on for a long time now, its just that since the sneaker game is much more popular now, and we live in a social network world where you can be a new meme in a matter of seconds, more people are in the know on legit colorways and how a legit pair looks like, hence why we dont see these fake sites promoting spongebob dub zeros and obama 13's as hard as they did in the 2000's

They have gotten really good on making fakes, technology has gotten way better to the point where a fake pair looks better than a real pair

All these Ig pages that have shoes early, majority are unauthorized, but we dont know for sure because the quality on these are so good. JB cares about this but at the end of the day its free marketing for them, sure they might be taking potential money from them but when release day comes the shoe sells out now because of that same Ig page that promoted the shoe 6 months prior to release

So yea DJ Delz might have a unauthorized pair in his video, or your popular friend on IG is showing off his pair already, if your not a JB athlete, celeb, rich or a famous sneaker connoisseur then we all know where it came from, no need to bash or scold them for it, some are not as educated as us on NT and some could care less, on the outside looking in, we might be considered idiots for paying $500 plus on a retail pair when they are getting it for a 5th of that, but thats why we are on this board, for the love of the game

The game is not exclusive anymore, as you can see at the link posted above ^ dudes were making unauthorized PE's and making a FORTUNE, just be careful out here ladies and gents...
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keep in mind that the kicks being sold in the article are true unauthorized shoes. they used nikes resources to make those shoes. those arent the shoes youre seeing on IG or shoes the average person even has access too. the fact of the matter is that fakes havent necessarily gotten better because of an advancement in technology. the bootleggers realized that they can make more money if they make shoes in a tiered system. the more you pay the better quality fake you get. But even the highest quality fakes arent 1:1 with the authentic shoes. Theres always something consistently off.
 
jdfrenchbread23 said:
keep in mind that the kicks being sold in the article are true unauthorized shoes. they used nikes resources to make those shoes. those arent the shoes youre seeing on IG or shoes the average person even has access too. the fact of the matter is that fakes havent necessarily gotten better because of an advancement in technology. the bootleggers realized that they can make more money if they make shoes in a tiered system. the more you pay the better quality fake you get. But even the highest quality fakes arent 1:1 with the authentic shoes. Theres always something consistently off.
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I know the kicks are unauthorized in the article, i said it in the last line

All these fake pairs use Nike resources, they buy a real nike shoe, tear it down, and replicate it, they even started stamping the box on the lid like authentic pairs

And yes they will never be 1:1, but the things that are off from the real ones are so minuscule that the avg eye will never catch it, before you didnt need to to watch a sneaker comparison to know that a pair of retros were not legit as much as you do now

Thats why us on this sneaker board are the elite, we are in the know, we do legit checks and discuss about sneakers daily, some blogs even come here to get information
 
Foamposite XI said:
I don't give a damn how much better the fakes look. I'd rather have a bad looking pair from Foot Locker than a good looking pair from Taobao.
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I like having authentic sneakers, but I'm more loyal to quality than name brand. I'd seriously reconsider my purchases if you told me that authentic 2015 AJ1s were more like the 2013 molds/quality and that the 2015 replicas are more like the remastered mold. Fortunately, that road has never been crossed.
 
1C3M4M said:
I know the kicks are unauthorized in the article, i said it in the last line

All these fake pairs use Nike resources, they buy a real nike shoe, tear it down, and replicate it, they even started stamping the box on the lid like authentic pairs

And yes they will never be 1:1, but the things that are off from the real ones are so minuscule that the avg eye will never catch it, before you didnt need to to watch a sneaker comparison to know that a pair of retros were not legit as much as you do now

Thats why us on this sneaker board are the elite, we are in the know, we do legit checks and discuss about sneakers daily, some blogs even come here to get information
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when i say they use nike resources i mean that those shoe were made on nikes dime. unauthorized shoes are made in completely separate operations dedicated to making counterfeit goods across all brands. yeezy boosts being made right next to air jordan 1s.

and when i say consistent flaws i dont mean a missed stitch here or a lace hole out of place there. ill use the jordan 1 as an example because they are popular now. Unauthorized royals NEVER are the right shade of blue. point blank period. the fake factories have never gotten it right and they probably never wont. thats why its easy to tell fakes from legits because the color is always off. Unuathorized bred 1s and chicago 1s are are consistently made with the wings logo too small and misplaced when compared to the legit pairs always. unauthorized fragment 1s always have an oversized fragment logo on the heel. See those things arent tiny things, theyre major manufacturing flaws. and theyre consistent. and thats why they'll never be 1 to 1. you give way too much credit to these fake places.

nike talk is definitely no in the elite minority of people that know about these shoes. there are forums, threads, subreddits literally full of people who actively buy fake shoes. ive learned 99% of what i know about unauthorized gm fakes off of nike talk. dont be fooled by the 11s you see every now and then, according to what ive heard, 11s were one of the easiest shoe to replicate and have the best replicas out but they dont speak for 99% of the unauthorized shoes coming out. 
 
jdfrenchbread23 said:
when i say they use nike resources i mean that those shoe were made on nikes dime. unauthorized shoes are made in completely separate operations dedicated to making counterfeit goods across all brands. yeezy boosts being made right next to air jordan 1s.


and when i say consistent flaws i dont mean a missed stitch here or a lace hole out of place there. ill use the jordan 1 as an example because they are popular now. Unauthorized royals NEVER are the right shade of blue. point blank period. the fake factories have never gotten it right and they probably never wont. thats why its easy to tell fakes from legits because the color is always off. Unuathorized bred 1s and chicago 1s are are consistently made with the wings logo too small and misplaced when compared to the legit pairs always. unauthorized fragment 1s always have an oversized fragment logo on the heel. See those things arent tiny things, theyre major manufacturing flaws. and theyre consistent. and thats why they'll never be 1 to 1. you give way too much credit to these fake places.


nike talk is definitely no in the elite minority of people that know about these shoes. there are forums, threads, subreddits literally full of people who actively buy fake shoes. ive learned 99% of what i know about unauthorized gm fakes off of nike talk. dont be fooled by the 11s you see every now and then, according to what ive heard, 11s were one of the easiest shoe to replicate and have the best replicas out but they dont speak for 99% of the unauthorized shoes coming out. 
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Those flaws that are on the shoes are tiny considering no one is going to look at them when they are on foot. If you are buying shoes for trade bait or for collecting purposes then yeah you can spot them but for that one guy that wants the fragments without spending fragment money is not going to think twice about who and where his pair is made

Im not giving way too much credit, these GM sites are eating great off the uneducated sneaker consumer, just pointing out whats going on, dont agree with it at all, i just did a legit check on some SBB's i purchased just to be safe

Also im not saying NT counts for all of the people that know what to look for, that was my fault i should have said that differently. there are other forums that we all know that post and show valuable info, they are included as well, for the people that go online to these boards and do research are the elite because we actually care about what we are buying

Piston Honda said:
I like having authentic sneakers, but I'm more loyal to quality than name brand. I'd seriously reconsider my purchases if you told me that authentic 2015 AJ1s were more like the 2013 molds/quality and that the 2015 replicas are more like the remastered mold. Fortunately, that road has never been crossed.
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Agreed, these gm pairs are getting very hard to distinguish than ever before, something is getting better on their end, its actually scary becuase there are stories of people going to authentic stores and getting non authentic pairs due to a store return or size swap
 
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1C3M4M said:
Those flaws that are on the shoes are tiny considering no one is going to look at them when they are on foot. If you are buying shoes for trade bait or for collecting purposes then yeah you can spot them but for that one guy that wants the fragments without spending fragment money is not going to think twice about who and where his pair is made
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I mean without scrutiny anything can go unnoticed. its the details that matter. if youre going to make the case the case that the shoes are the same or better than retail you cant ignore those things.
 
^of course not, my whole point is this, majority of the sneaker game does not care about detail such as the size of the wings logo or the shade of blue, they just want the shoes that everybody goes crazy for, thats why the game is kinda tarnished these days

Back then you can tell from a mile away, but they gotten so dam close with the quality that people dont really care anymore

I get what you are saying dont get me wrong, I feel like we both point valid points about the state of the sneaker culture
 
Only dudes not caring about oversized fragment logos or incorrect shade of blue on their royals are the clowns that do this for IG... pretty soon they'll move on to the next wave. Sneakers and having a sneaker collection is like a damn trend right now. It's on par with having tha latest iphone or apple watch.

A lot of info in this thread but I want to point out the fact that fakes and UAs never get everything 100% right. To the untrained eye 100% stops at color blocking lol but to us on these forums and blogs we can spot the differences whether it be the materials used, incorrect color, misshapen molds, lines and stitching not meeting correctly, etc. Basically we does this lol

Now I don't want to see nobody else sitting here defending fakes and UAs on some quality is better bs. Fakes don't get everything right. The leather is not the same grade whether nike uses real hides or synthetic materials, these factories are using leftovers and if they run out materials to make fake Bordeauxs they won't hesitate to improvise and use materials for a different shoe. Ain't no b grades in fakes, they're just sold at a lower price point. This is that tiered system. Barbershop vs website. Plug overseas vs back alley shop in NY somewhere. Both fakes, just some made better. Bottom line is, find the best fake or UA and put it beside a nike authentic. Upon first glance it might look very similar, but rip the tongue out and look at the padding, dissect the shoe, squeeze the midsole and rubber outsole, you'll see the differences.
 
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hassan16 said:
Only dudes not caring about oversized fragment logos or incorrect shade of blue on their royals are the clowns that do this for IG... pretty soon they'll move on to the next wave. Sneakers and having a sneaker collection is like a damn trend right now. It's on par with having tha latest iphone or apple watch.

A lot of info in this thread but I want to point out the fact that fakes and UAs never get everything 100% right. To the untrained eye 100% stops at color blocking lol but to us on these forums and blogs we can spot the differences whether it be the materials used, incorrect color, misshapen molds, lines and stitching not meeting correctly, etc. Basically we does this lol

Now I don't want to see nobody else sitting here defending fakes and UAs on some quality is better bs. Fakes don't get everything right. The leather is not the same grade whether nike uses real hides or synthetic materials, these factories are using leftovers and of they run out materials they won't hesitate to improvise. Ain't no b grades in fakes, they're just sold at a lower price point. Bottom line is, find the best fake or UA and put it beside a nike authentic. Upon first glance it might be very similar, but rip the tongue out and look at the padding, dialect the shoe, squeeze the midsole and rubber outsole, you'll see the difference.
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Yes, we does this lol

And yes to the trained eye, you can spot it a mile away
 
hassan16 said:
Only dudes not caring about oversized fragment logos or incorrect shade of blue on their royals are the clowns that do this for IG... pretty soon they'll move on to the next wave. Sneakers and having a sneaker collection is like a damn trend right now. It's on par with having tha latest iphone or apple watch.

A lot of info in this thread but I want to point out the fact that fakes and UAs never get everything 100% right. To the untrained eye 100% stops at color blocking lol but to us on these forums and blogs we can spot the differences whether it be the materials used, incorrect color, misshapen molds, lines and stitching not meeting correctly, etc. Basically we does this lol

Now I don't want to see nobody else sitting here defending fakes and UAs on some quality is better bs. Fakes don't get everything right. The leather is not the same grade whether nike uses real hides or synthetic materials, these factories are using leftovers and if they run out materials to make fake Bordeauxs they won't hesitate to improvise and use materials for a different shoe. Ain't no b grades in fakes, they're just sold at a lower price point. This is that tiered system. Barbershop vs website. Plug overseas vs back alley shop in NY somewhere. Both fakes, just some made better. Bottom line is, find the best fake or UA and put it beside a nike authentic. Upon first glance it might look very similar, but rip the tongue out and look at the padding, dissect the shoe, squeeze the midsole and rubber outsole, you'll see the differences.
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100% on point, the only thing i want to change is the "these factories are using leftovers". Nothing leftover from legit places. They can order materials and supplies in large quantities just like other factories they can. What theyre doing is getting materials that look close or are similar in most cases.
 
I will get these, but that patent leather is pissing me off. Why does it have a tumbled leather look? These would look better with regular patent leather. Also, the cut seems to have regressed a bit back towards the space jams.
 
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