40k salary for a job you like or 100k for a job you don't like?

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How on earth is 100k "not enough" in the US? What?

This has to be gross income right? Not net.
 
 
$100k gross.

30-40% tax rate? That's $60-70k or $5000-6000 net monthly.
Still though, how is that not enough? The costs of living must be ridiculously high in the US.

My mom makes about €16000 net a year and we live relatively fine here, just me and my mom.

My dad pays €500 a month in child support per my request but that's still only an additional €6000.

Most people I know earn about €1700 net a month.

My dad makes around  €3000 a month which is considered a high income. Our politicians in the federal government earn around €3000-4000 a month net.

Over here that's more than enough to live comfortably and with some luxury.
 
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sheeeeet, I'll take an 100k job in south florida. I'd be living life, regardless if I hate my job.
 
16000 Euros is about 17,825 in US dollars. I along with other NTers will tell you that you can't live off that here in US unfortunately Belgium Belgium
 
16000 Euros is about 17,825 in US dollars. I along with other NTers will tell you that you can't live off that here in US unfortunately @Colombia
Add an additional €6000 a year in child support payments.

I'm satisfied with my current living condition. We rent a house and have no debt.

We've had some problems with large medical bills in the past but I'm 100% covered now through my dad's new work insurance.

I also own my dad's house so I'm guaranteed to have a house of my own later. During the divorce I made my dad sign a contract that gifts me the house so I don't have to pay succession rights later on and he can not legally sell the house to anyone.
 
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17gs is below the poverty line according to stats btw.

That is entirely to small to live on in North America.
Solo comfortable life - 55k / year (45 net)
Married comfortable life- times 2
 
That's not cutting it here. 40k and I'm watching my every move and probably going into some form of debt. It really depends on where you live too. When I was 18, sure 40k was great. Not anymore.

I could easily live off 100k. But even 50k I'm not feeling too great. 60 I'm chilling.
 
16000 Euros is about 17,825 in US dollars. I along with other NTers will tell you that you can't live off that here in US unfortunately [@=/u/93394/Colombia]@Colombia[/@]
Add an additional €6000 a year in child support payments.
I'm satisfied with my current living condition. We rent a house and have no debt.
We've had some problems with large medical bills in the past but I'm 100% covered now through my dad's new work insurance.
I also own my dad's house so I'm guaranteed to have a house of my own later. During the divorce I made my dad sign a contract that gifts me the house so I don't have to pay succession rights later on and he can not legally sell the house to anyone.

Idk how living in Belgium is like but if you living comfy, props breh :pimp:
 
That's not cutting it here. 40k and I'm watching my every move and probably going into some form of debt. It really depends on where you live too. When I was 18, sure 40k was great. Not anymore.

I could easily live off 100k. But even 50k I'm not feeling too great. 60 I'm chilling.
It probably helps that I live in a very rural area and rent is fairly cheap for a good house.

We have around 50k in government bonds from an inheritance that we can cash in in the case of an emergency but we haven't had to touch them yet. I keep track of our purchases and we even have a little excess by the end of the month.

I don't ask for birthday or christmas gifts etc so that saves some money too.

I pay for everything myself (clothes, vacations, trips, leisure activities, ...) except living costs and the food I eat at home with my mom as I'm medically unable to live on my own.
 
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im 25. i gross 60k now. I still want for things and have debt.
At 100k i could afford the little trinkets.

At 150k I would have all the above plus travel and saving/investing covered

At 200k my next generation is set.

If you and a spouse both make 60-100k I think you'll be fine.

That said, I slave away for my 60-80k. I need to find away to have more free time. how...? im not sure yet. the postal service is demanding. 

which comes back to the original question... 40k isnt enough even if i love the job. but i am tired of putting in a lot of hours
 
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Bruh 100k with your wife's separate income [emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji] stop letting antidope troll y'all.
 
200k and your next generation is set? To do what?
at 200k i can pass along a property paid off very quickly, maybe even two. save for college expenses and leave them with very few barriers to achieving what they want to do. basically leave them in a place to be comfortable at 40k with a job they like rather than needing 100k  
 
So what is the reason y'all need so much money in the US? Cost of education? Cost of living?

My dad is in his early 50s now and his house is fully paid off and appraised at around €200k, he also owns various patches of land for hunting purposes.

He also has plenty of savings. That's just from his income of €3000 a month and additional income as a hunter, no investments.

No debt, recently bought a 30k car in full without taking out a loan.

It just boggles my mind how 100k or even 200k is not enough to achieve that in the US.
 
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So what is the reason y'all need so much money in the US? Cost of education? Cost of living?
My dad is in his early 50s now and his house is fully paid off and appraised at around €200k, he also owns various patches of land for hunting purposes.
He also has plenty of savings. That's just from his income of €3000 a month and additional income as a hunter, no investments.
No debt, recently bought a 30k car in full without taking out a loan.

It just boggles my mind how 100k or even 200k is not enough to achieve that in the US.

A multitude of things. The typical college graduate that borrows money owes over $30,000 in America. In most places in America, a car is still a necessity due to insufficient public transportation. With a car usually comes a car loan, or at least a couple hundred a month for gas and repairs. In America, if you have kids, there is no state sponsored daycare/preschool, so parents pay for that out of pocket. I can't speak to everyone else's situation, but in the DC area the average daycare is probably around $1300 a month.

Also, how did you make your dad sign over his house? Did he divorce you or your mom?
 
 
So what is the reason y'all need so much money in the US? Cost of education? Cost of living?

My dad is in his early 50s now and his house is fully paid off and appraised at around €200k, he also owns various patches of land for hunting purposes.

He also has plenty of savings. That's just from his income of €3000 a month and additional income as a hunter, no investments.

No debt, recently bought a 30k car in full without taking out a loan.

It just boggles my mind how 100k or even 200k is not enough to achieve that in the US.
There are numerous things in your post which align it to mine.

First, after conversion €3000 is already $60k a year anyway after taxes.

Second, his home is paid off. most americans are putting about 30% of there income towards housing, so that would stretch your 60k figure to about $90k.

Third, there's no interest eating away at his earning while he pays down loans. Many americans recieved no education about finance and debt and were sold the american dream of college and mortgage debt from childhood. we're still paying the banks some off top.

and finally, he's in his early 50s and came up when things were cheaper and not nearly as inflated in price.

oh and in addition to that... I'm 25...waiting til im like 50 to be chillin? Aint nobody got time fo dat. This is like retire in under 20 years income.
 
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A multitude of things. The typical college graduate that borrows money owes over $30,000 in America. In most places in America, a car is still a necessity due to insufficient public transportation. With a car usually comes a car loan, or at least a couple hundred a month for gas and repairs. In America, if you have kids, there is no state sponsored daycare/preschool, so parents pay for that out of pocket. I can't speak to everyone else's situation, but in the DC area the average daycare is probably around $1300 a month.

Also, how did you make your dad sign over his house? Did he divorce you or your mom?
I see. Education is highly subsidized here through taxes and I can actually go to the best university in the country for less than €1000 a year if I want to. With a scholarship it can be as little as a few hundred euros a year and that includes tuition and books.

So people here aren't graduating with massive college debt. Many people also stay at home for a relatively long time, some up to their mid-20s so they can collect a lot of savings before moving out. Most older people I know own their house, not rented. 

I'm very good at negotiating and talking people into doing what I want. My dad's normally pretty cheap (I don't get birthday or christmas gifts) but he's a bit more gullible when it comes to my future. My mom originally asked for the minimum child support per month but I recently convinced him to pay €500 a month instead of €200.

My mom wants as little to do with him as possible, most of the financial arrangements are my doing.

I won't go into details but my dad is by no means a good person, I'll just leave it at domestic abuse.

The only reason I maintain some level of contact with him is to exploit financial gain.
 
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