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no because the two are not mutually exclusive.

a majority of white people of lower intelligence can also be racist, but i dont want to believe that a majority of ALL white people are racist
 
 
no because the two are not mutually exclusive.

a majority of white people of lower intelligence can also be racist, but i dont want to believe that a majority of ALL white people are racist
 
no i think of the minority, highly intelligent white people, there are a majority that are racist.  
so most highly intelligent and most lower intelligent white people are racist..... but not the overall majority of white people are racist...

Therefore the average white person must not racist by your logic

You are presenting a reverse bell curve for racism/iq correlation
 
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i would hope so, i dont want a majority of white people to be racist

it kinda makes sense that most people would be polarized on an issue such as racism, right?  

the "average" white person is just as likely (if not more) to be racist as someone at either end of the spectrum, because it is to a white persons benefit to support racism

can you explain why you think white people of lower socioeconomic status, intelligence and education would be more likely to be racist than those of a higher status, education and intelligence?
 
 
the "average" white person is just as likely (if not more) to be racist as someone at either end of the spectrum, because it is to a white persons benefit to support racism
 highly intelligent white people, there are a majority that are racist. 
a majority of white people of lower intelligence can also be racist
 
i would hope so, i dont want a majority of white people to be racist
you stated that high intelligence white people are a majority racist.

you stated that lower intelligence white people are a majority racist.

then you say average white people are JUST AS LIKELY (IF NOT MORE LIKELY) to be racist

then you say you hope the majority of white people aren't racist, even though your own statements declare they are.

I don't see the progression in your logic.
can you explain why you think white people of lower socioeconomic status, intelligence and education would be more likely to be racist than those of a higher status, education and intelligence?
Racism is an illogical ideal that is propagated through:

A > lack of understanding of the actualities of race relations and endorsement of a 'perceived' truth

B > understanding that the ideology is illogical but still purposefully endorsing it for the benefits it provides.

Lack of education/experience is a strong precursur to belief in an illogical ideal.

*Education and Experience has the effect of making some people able to understand and use racism for their benefit...

while also having the side effect of bringing about realization of the actualities of race relations thus making some people less racist

*This situation is evident in most racist groups' heirarchy.... 

even in prison the aryan nation and other white supremacists work hand in hand with blacks and mexicans at the higher levels and use the racist ideology as a means of using a common enemy to control the lower tiers of their own groups.
 
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The irony of a black man making arguments FOR racism :lol:


I take it you grandparents are no longer living???


What the **** is that supposed to mean?


I guess I'm never gonna get my answer. Sucks cuz I absolutely would've loved to hear it |I

damn let a ***** live :lol:

Bruh my grandpops is 85 years old in the south. At one point they needed an exterminator, but my grandpops refused saying he, "didn't want no white man in his house..".

Its ***** up, but you cant do nothing but alonzo.gif.

If an old black man is racist toward whites.....know the history of our country, can you really blame him?
 
i never said a majority of lower intelligence white were racist, i said they can be, i.e. possibly, but less likely than those who are of higher status/education/intelligence.

like you said, white people of lower intelligence have a greater chance of interacting with/understanding race relations (not being racist) due to being in proximity to black people.

if a majority of higher intelligence white people and lower intelligence white people are racist, then close to all white people are racist

i said i dont want to believe that close to all are racist, so i believe that there are more lower intelligence white people that aren't racist

even if i did think they were close to all racist, what evidence is there based on the history of this country to think otherwise?

i cant give the benefit of the doubt to say that a minority of white people are racist.

you bringing up hate groups is only a sector of the overall race problem in this country.

like i said tho, always tryna frame the conversation. 
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edit: and how is it that in your estimation that with higher intelligence and recognition that racism benefits whites, that only some would take advantage?
 
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Being sexually attracted to a person has nothing to do with respecting them as a human being. It doesn't mean you believe their race is inferior.

Apply that logic to gender. Is not being sexually attracted to the opposite gender really that different than being sexist?

See how ridiculous that sounds?
No one said he didn't respect people of other races, the rumor is that he strongly PREFERRED his daughter not procreate with a white person

For starters, you can't not be attracted to a whole race, claim preference all u want, that has social stigma all over it

Back on the comparison, it's a preference against a race in both cases so theres some relation
 
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Black woman with white man is more looked down upon amongst blacks than black man with white woman...
 
now u can't even put what you want on a will? he shoulda just kept his inner thoughts outside of the record.
 
 
 
 
 
The irony of a black man making arguments FOR racism
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I take it you grandparents are no longer living???

What the **** is that supposed to mean?

I guess I'm never gonna get my answer. Sucks cuz I absolutely would've loved to hear it
tired.gif
damn let a ***** live
laugh.gif


Bruh my grandpops is 85 years old in the south. At one point they needed an exterminator, but my grandpops refused saying he, "didn't want no white man in his house..".

Its ***** up, but you cant do nothing but alonzo.gif.

If an old black man is racist toward whites.....know the history of our country, can you really blame him?
This might just blow your mind but race relations in America are not necessarily indicative of race relations worldwide.

The experiences of your grandfather when it comes to whites are not similar to the experiences of either of mine.

In fact, Canada which is where this case took place is, one of the most racially progressive nations in the world.

Unless you're Native-American. They treat them like ****. Canada or the US they still get the short end of the stick
mean.gif


Next time try to remember that before you bring up someone's dead grandparents in an attempt to justify racism or other acts of bigotry.
 
 
 
 
 
The irony of a black man making arguments FOR racism :lol:



I take it you grandparents are no longer living???



What the **** is that supposed to mean?



I guess I'm never gonna get my answer. Sucks cuz I absolutely would've loved to hear it |I


damn let a ***** live :lol:


Bruh my grandpops is 85 years old in the south. At one point they needed an exterminator, but my grandpops refused saying he, "didn't want no white man in his house..".


Its ***** up, but you cant do nothing but alonzo.gif.


If an old black man is racist toward whites.....know the history of our country, can you really blame him?

This might just blow your mind but race relations in America are not necessarily indicative of race relations worldwide.
The experiences of your grandfather when it comes to whites are not similar to the experiences of either of mine.
In fact, Canada which is where this case took place is, one of the most racially progressive nations in the world.
Unless you're Native-American. They treat them like ****. Canada or the US they still get the short end of the stick :smh:

Next time try to remember that before you bring up someone's dead grandparents in an attempt to justify racism or other acts of bigotry.

Bruh aint you like 19?

Hush...
 
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now u can't even put what you want on a will? he shoulda just kept his inner thoughts outside of the record.
they were "outside the record"

his will didnt say anything about race, only that they were estranged

the daughter brought in a third to party to add hearsay to the proceedings
 
 
i never said a majority of lower intelligence white were racist, i said they can be, i.e. possibly, but less likely than those who are of higher status/education/intelligence.

like you said, white people of lower intelligence have a greater chance of interacting with/understanding race relations (not being racist) due to being in proximity to black people.
1. so you believe the majority of lower intelligence white people are not racist.

2. I never said lower intelligence white's have a greater chance of not being racist, I actually said the opposite.
i said i dont want to believe that close to all are racist, so i believe that there are more lower intelligence white people that aren't racist

even if i did think they were close to all racist, what evidence is there based on the history of this country to think otherwise?
so you believe that there most lower intelligence whites are not racist....

then in the next sentence you state a lack of historical evidence for the very view you hold....???????
you bringing up hate groups is only a sector of the overall race problem in this country.

like i said tho, always tryna frame the conversation. 
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the hate group analogy was an EXAMPLE of heirarchy and intelligence as it relates to racist beliefs vs. racist mechanisms.... 

what do you mean by "frame the conversation"?
 
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The irony of a black man making arguments FOR racism
laugh.gif


I take it you grandparents are no longer living???


What the **** is that supposed to mean?


I guess I'm never gonna get my answer. Sucks cuz I absolutely would've loved to hear it
tired.gif

damn let a ***** live
laugh.gif



Bruh my grandpops is 85 years old in the south. At one point they needed an exterminator, but my grandpops refused saying he, "didn't want no white man in his house..".


Its ***** up, but you cant do nothing but alonzo.gif.


If an old black man is racist toward whites.....know the history of our country, can you really blame him?
This might just blow your mind but race relations in America are not necessarily indicative of race relations worldwide.
The experiences of your grandfather when it comes to whites are not similar to the experiences of either of mine.
In fact, Canada which is where this case took place is, one of the most racially progressive nations in the world.
Unless you're Native-American. They treat them like ****. Canada or the US they still get the short end of the stick
mean.gif


Next time try to remember that before you bring up someone's dead grandparents in an attempt to justify racism or other acts of bigotry.
Bruh aint you like 19?

Hush...
I'm not, but even if I was, how would it affect what I've said? I could be 13 and it wouldn't change the truth of my words.

If you're gonna create justifications to dismiss my post at least come up with better ones
laugh.gif
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
The irony of a black man making arguments FOR racism :lol:




I take it you grandparents are no longer living???




What the **** is that supposed to mean?




I guess I'm never gonna get my answer. Sucks cuz I absolutely would've loved to hear it |I



damn let a ***** live :lol:



Bruh my grandpops is 85 years old in the south. At one point they needed an exterminator, but my grandpops refused saying he, "didn't want no white man in his house..".



Its ***** up, but you cant do nothing but alonzo.gif.



If an old black man is racist toward whites.....know the history of our country, can you really blame him?


This might just blow your mind but race relations in America are not necessarily indicative of race relations worldwide.

The experiences of your grandfather when it comes to whites are not similar to the experiences of either of mine.

In fact, Canada which is where this case took place is, one of the most racially progressive nations in the world.

Unless you're Native-American. They treat them like ****. Canada or the US they still get the short end of the stick :smh:


Next time try to remember that before you bring up someone's dead grandparents in an attempt to justify racism or other acts of bigotry.


Bruh aint you like 19?


Hush...

I'm not, but even if I was, how would it affect what I've said? I could be 13 and it wouldn't change the truth of my words.
If you're gonna create justifications to dismiss my post at least come up with better ones :lol:

Because we not talking about you son.

You said its ironic how a black man could make an arguemnt for racism. I gave an example. I wasnt justifying it in any stretch of the imagination.

I even said the words "Its **** up". Jesus. Did I touch a nevre talking about you grandparents? If I did, I apoloize. If not you cant read and comprehend to save your life.
 
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Oh boy.

1. At what point was I ever talking about me? You mentioned your grandfather so I mentioned mine. My age doesn't really factor into this.

Especially since the differences in the experiences of our grandparents has less to with the era they born in and more to do with the place.

2.  You using anecdotal evidence of why a black man might be racist doesn't make it any less ironic that one would justify racism.

I said it was ironic that one would argue for. I never said I couldn't understand HOW one could argue for.

If I did then you bringing up your grandfather would actually matter. And to think you questioned my reading comprehension.

3. When you brought up evidence to contradict my point of view and to shift blame from a racist onto others, in order to create reasons why they're a racist (also known as justification), you justified it. It may not have been intentional but you did it and saying it's ****** up doesn't change that. Putting a cherry on top of a pile of **** doesn't turn the **** into ice cream.

4.When you bring up someone's dead grandparents to prove a point it is possible that you might touch a nerve. It is a callous thing to do.

5. You are literally the first person in my entire life  to ever question my reading comprehension
laugh.gif
(That's over 19 years, only 3 of which I couldn't read, so it's kind of impressive. Congratulations.)

Again, if you're going to create justification to dismiss my words, come up with better ones.
 
Oh boy.

1. At what point was I ever talking about me? You mentioned your grandfather so I mentioned mine. My age doesn't really factor into this.
Especially since the differences in the experiences of our grandparents has less to with the era they born in and more to do with the place.

The experiences of your grandfather when it comes to whites are not similar to the experiences of either of mine.

Also that fact that this is about a black man in Cananda, you already off based.

2.  You using anecdotal evidence of why a black man might be racist doesn't make it any less ironic that one would justify racism.
I said it was ironic that one would argue for. I never said I couldn't understand HOW one could argue for.
If I did then you bringing up your grandfather would actually matter. And to think you questioned my reading comprehension.

Bruh you dont eem read what you type. See above.

3. When you brought up evidence to contradict my point of view and to shift blame from a racist onto others, in order to create reasons why they're a racist (also known as justification), you justified it. It may not have been intentional but you did it and saying it's ****** up doesn't change that. Putting a cherry on top of a pile of **** doesn't turn the **** into ice cream.

So explain

jus·ti·fy

show or prove to be right or reasonable.

Show me where I did that. No. I never said it was "reasonable". Maybe I have a different take of the alonzo.gif, but what I see(its white and cold) its "that ***** up" head shake.."oh well i understand" head nod.

Justifying is not understanding.

You comprehension is still in question....

4.When you bring up someone's dead grandparents to prove a point it is possible that you might touch a nerve. It is a callous thing to do.

No one said anything negative.

Maybe Im not as sensative, but I have dead relatives as well and I dont get offended if someone merely brings them up.

Excuse me if I dont understand. Again, I apologize.

5. You are literally the first person in my entire life  to ever question my reading comprehension :lol: (That's over 19 years, only 3 of which I couldn't read, so it's kind of impressive. Congratulations.)

Again, if you're going to create justification to dismiss my words, come up with better ones.

Birds of a feather flock together, bruh
 
 
1. so you believe the majority of lower intelligence white people are not racist.

2. I never said lower intelligence white's have a greater chance of not being racist, I actually said the opposite.

so you believe that there most lower intelligence whites are not racist....

then in the next sentence you state a lack of historical evidence for the very view you hold....???????

the hate group analogy was an EXAMPLE of heirarchy and intelligence as it relates to racist beliefs vs. racist mechanisms.... 

what do you mean by "frame the conversation"?
i hope the average white person is not racist as well (since i already said i believe ppl on both the higher and lower end of intelligence are racist)

history proves that the "more intelligent" were racist i.e. slavery, segregation, jim crow etc.

so you mean to tell me that the racist system that exists today and was built in the past was built by a majority of lower intelligent white people?

what youre really saying is that white people of higher intelligence use racism to "persuade" white people of lower intelligence into believing

and the hate groups are not an example of racism, they are an instrument, theres a difference

i guess you brought up hate groups to show an isolated example of how the minority of highly intelligent among them use racism to make a majority of their believers being of the lowest intelligent, just like i said.  

the average white person, neutral, is less likely to go to the extreme of joining a hate group, but still more likely to indulge in the benefits of racism, making them a racist.

because then you said
 
A > lack of understanding of the actualities of race relations and endorsement of a 'perceived' truth

*Education and Experience has the effect of making some people able to understand and use racism for their benefit...

while also having the side effect of bringing about realization of the actualities of race relations thus making some people less racist
so which is it?

does higher intelligence correlate with a person being more likely to more racist, given their increased ability to take advantage of the benefits of racism?

or lower intelligence correlates with an endorsement/belief in an illogical idea merely because of "perception"?

how is it only some  of the people that have the intelligence will use it to their advantage?
 
 
 
1. so you believe the majority of lower intelligence white people are not racist.

2. I never said lower intelligence white's have a greater chance of not being racist, I actually said the opposite.

so you believe that there most lower intelligence whites are not racist....

then in the next sentence you state a lack of historical evidence for the very view you hold....???????

the hate group analogy was an EXAMPLE of heirarchy and intelligence as it relates to racist beliefs vs. racist mechanisms.... 

what do you mean by "frame the conversation"?
i hope the average white person is not racist as well (since i already said i believe ppl on both the higher and lower end of intelligence are racist)

history proves that the "more intelligent" were racist i.e. slavery, segregation, jim crow etc.

no, history proves the most powerful were racist. Look at all the progressive movements throughout history and most of them were not racist.

Even during slavery europe was very progressive in race relations. American culture and industry relied on a certain race relation to maintain the status quo.

Racism as a control mechanism was stronger in places it needed to be, and less strong in places it had no use.

the highly intelligent can see this objectively, while lower intelligent people's views and lifestyles are culturally subjective.

so you mean to tell me that the racist system that exists today and was built in the past was built by a majority of lower intelligent white people?

yes. The world was not run by the most intelligent and objective people..it was run by the most powerful and influential.

Even when an intelligent and enlightened person had power...the only way to maintain it is to separate intelligent objective actions from profitable, lucrative, and self endorsing actions

what youre really saying is that white people of higher intelligence use racism to "persuade" white people of lower intelligence into believing

in some instances yes.

I was mainly showing an example of the mechanism of hierarchy in a racist structure.

and the hate groups are not an example of racism, they are an instrument, theres a difference

Once again. I was showing an example of the mechanism of hierarchy in a racist structure.

i guess you brought up hate groups to show an isolated example of how the minority of highly intelligent among them use racism to make a majority of their believers being of the lowest intelligent, just like i said.  

Once again. I was showing an example of the mechanism of hierarchy in a racist structure.

The analogy was to show how racism works as a mechanism in regards to high level members engaging in anti-racist actions (working hand in hand with other races) while pushing the racist ideology to maintain power.

Imagine the royal families in europe when christianity was at it's height. They practiced the religion to maintain control.

Some kings may have truly believed, but I doubt most truly did.

That did not stop them from using religious context to hurt, oppress, and conquer people.

If you would have compared a kings belief in jesus to that of a peasant... the peasant would be a more fervent follower of the ideology, while the king would be having threesomes and getting faded behind scenes.

My point is the idea that the more you know and understand the true nature of certain "mechanisms" the more likely you are to not truly believe in it.

Whether or not you practice it for the benefit it provides.

the average white person, neutral, is less likely to go to the extreme of joining a hate group, but still more likely to indulge in the benefits of racism, making them a racist.

ok

because then you said
 
A > lack of understanding of the actualities of race relations and endorsement of a 'perceived' truth

*Education and Experience has the effect of making some people able to understand and use racism for their benefit...

while also having the side effect of bringing about realization of the actualities of race relations thus making some people less racist
so which is it?

does higher intelligence correlate with a person being more likely to more racist, given their increased ability to take advantage of the benefits of racism?

Pay attention to the second sentence:

*Education and Experience has the effect of making some people able to understand and use racism for their benefit...

while also having the side effect of bringing about realization of the actualities of race relations thus making some people less racist

I believe the higher a person's intelligence, the less likely they are to be racist.

or lower intelligence correlates with an endorsement/belief in an illogical idea merely because of "perception"?

less intelligence correlates with dogmatic racism

how is it only some  of the people that have the intelligence will use it to their advantage?

morality, objectivity, opportunity and culture 
 
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