30 People Arrested For Food Stamp Fraud; Guess How Many Were Black?

Man the prejudiced bigoted ones aren't even capable of hearing nothing real. :lol:

They've literally been brainwashed with the same rhetoric regarding minorities their entire lives.
 
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More than 30 people have been nabbed for food stamp fraud in the North Country.
Now here’s the kicker: they’re all white
Brushton, New York, where this bust happened, has a population of roughly 480 people. Approximately 99.83% of the population is white, and 0.42% are black. These demographics are eerily similar to the food stamp capital of the country, Owsley Country, Kentucky, which is 99.22% white and 95% Republican. Maybe we should investigate them.
Hang on... You mean to tell me out of 480 people in the county, there are 478 white people and all of the people arrested where white? Even if both black people in town were arrested for fraud, there would still be 28 white people arrested. Hardly a good sample to run any conclusions by.
 
 
More than 30 people have been nabbed for food stamp fraud in the North Country.


Now here’s the kicker: they’re all white

Brushton, New York, where this bust happened, has a population of roughly 480 people. Approximately 99.83% of the population is white, and 0.42% are black. These demographics are eerily similar to the food stamp capital of the country
, Owsley Country, Kentucky, which is 99.22% white and 95% Republican. Maybe we should investigate them.

Hang on... You mean to tell me out of 480 people in the county, there are 478 white people and all of the people arrested where white? Even if both black people in town were arrested for fraud, there would still be 28 white people arrested. Hardly a good sample to run any conclusions by.

Huh?

I believe the point of the article, and the OP, is to shine light on the fact that even though blacks are used as the poster boys of milking/abusing the Food Stamp system by the conservative right

White people use and abuse the system too. And this is an example of just that.
 
that incentives and subsidiaries post is on point.

meanwhile, if you have been working they cut off your unemployment after 26 weeks with no more extensions and there is nothing to help middle class folks, which no longer exists tbh.

its just rich and poor folk, we were looking to see if we could qualify for some type of assistance for food at least but you damn near have to be on the streets with kids to get any help.

we had savings but theres rent and other bills, you cant find a job without internet, you cant drive to all these job interviews without gas.

you need interview clothes, plus who knows what kinds of info they want, ie DMV printout etc.

i dont know why im going on a tangent but people are really struggling, ALL PEOPLE.
 
 Huh?

I believe the point of the article, and the OP, is to shine light on the fact that even though blacks are used as the poster boys of milking/abusing the Food Stamp system by the conservative right

White people use and abuse the system too. And this is an example of just that.
I get what his point was, but if you're going to make a point, it's best if the numbers actually have a chance of equaling out. Not to mention the site citing the source is anything but unbiased. Any site that only reports one side has little credibility in my book no matter how strong their argument is for their cause.

Also... the case study being used isn't representative of our culture as a whole (25% of SNAP recipients are Black according the the chart, but only .4 are Black in the town cited). Is there fraud among whites? Absolutely. Is there fraud among non-whites? absolutely. But if you only give one side of the story every time, there is little credibility even if you do tell the whole truth once in a while.
 
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Huh?


I believe the point of the article, and the OP, is to shine light on the fact that even though blacks are used as the poster boys of milking/abusing the Food Stamp system by the conservative right


White people use and abuse the system too. And this is an example of just that.

I get what his point was, but if you're going to make a point, it's best if the numbers actually have a chance of equaling out. Not to mention the site citing the source is anything but unbiased. Any site that only reports one side has little credibility in my book no matter how strong their argument is for their cause.

Also... the case study being used isn't representative of our culture as a whole (25% of SNAP recipients are Black according the the chart, but only .4 are Black in the town cited). Is there fraud among whites? Absolutely. Is there fraud among non-whites? absolutely. But if you only give one side of the story every time, there is little credibility even if you do tell the whole truth once in a while.

Once again, HUH?

They site did choose to sample in that city, and happen to find a group of people committing fraud. This that was the case the your objection would be valid in a way

Fraud was committed, then the story was written about it. Pointing out that the city is mainly white only strengthens the argument the article is making

When you hear the term "Welfare Queen" what image pops into your head? What imagine you think pops up in most people's head?

The answer to that question is what the article is attacking. This idea put out there by some the media and lets be honest the right wing, is that the main users and abusers of the Food Stamp system is African Americans and Latinos.

The point of this article is too point out that white do it too. It doesn't claim to be a statistical study, it doesn't claim to have sample representative of the population, but somehow you wouldn't listen to it's message unless it does

It is not trying to mislead in anyway, but based on your post history, I think maybe the fact the article takes shots at Republicans/conservatives, is what really rubbed you the wrong way.

-And really you have a problem with one sided articles? When you were posting negative Obamacare article, after negative Obamacare articles where were these standards?
 
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Nah.Despite the fact that blacks represent 13% of the population, they account for 39.8% of all welfare recipients, versus 38.8% for whites.
that rectal extraction math.

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Found this too:

- 29 million people are on welfare
- 39% white: 11,661,000
- 38% black: 11,362,000

According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States:
- US population: 313,544,041
- White: 72.4%: 227,005,885
- Black: 12.6%: 39,506,549

Math time!:

Whites: 11.661,000 / 227,005,885 * 100 = 5.13%
Blacks: 11,362,000 / 39,506,549 * 100 = 28.75%

That means the total percentage of all white people in america on welfare is: 5.13%

While the total percentage of all black people in america on welfare is: 28.75%


I can't verify it, just what I found with a quick Google search.
 
Love how people can go into a thread like this, completely ignore the factual information presented and still have the audacity to say "blacks make up 14% of the population but a higher percentage of blacks are on welfare when compared to whites".
 
Love how people can go into a thread like this, completely ignore the factual information presented and still have the audacity to say "blacks make up 14% of the population but a higher percentage of blacks are on welfare when compared to whites".

I was replying to this:

"There are a higher percentage of whites on government assistance than blacks tho..."


Which is false. Of course there are more whites on welfare, there are more whites period.

http://www.statisticbrain.com/welfare-statistics/
 
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It is true that black people receive SNAP benefits at a higher rate. In order to get SNAP benefits, one has to be pretty poor and have a low income and very few assets. Considering that US History is largely defined as the story of black labor and wealth being extorted away from black people, is it any surprise that black people are disproportionately poor and thus disproportionately eligible for Food Assistance?

We also need to think of SNAP Benefits (colloquially referred to as "food stamps") in the broader context of US Food Economic policy. When they came into being, food stamps were not a handout, they were a rebate. We decided that it was in our national interest to help farmers by keeping the price of their crops high. We used subsidies, protectionism against foreign trade and state organized and backed collusion in order to keep the prices of agricultural prices high.

This was very helpful for farmers, who were almost always white and who had middle and upper incomes. The byproduct of these high price polices was that grocery bills were made artificially high for everyone and this created a particular hardship for poor people. That is why we decided to give very poor people vouchers for food.

For the last 40 years or so, Congress routinely appropriated money for SNAP benefits at the same time that it reauthorized assistance for farmers. Thanks to the Tea Party, this process is being disrupted. Since the Tea Party is allegedly terrified of the National Debt and excessive government spending, one would think they would go after welfare for farmers since welfare for farmers makes up the majority of the Farm Bill and cost tax payers far more than food stamps do.

Naturally, they gutted the SNAP/food stamps Portion because "freedom" and "the DEBT!" The real kicker is that many members of Congress and/or their immediate family members actually receive those welfare benefits for farmers. Of course, when affluent, white farmers get goodies from the government, it is not welfare. People like Joni "bread bags" Ernst and her family received "business incentives" for decades on her family's Iowa farm.

As we know the only people who receive welfare benefits are poor, lazy, shiftless nig-- um, inner city people, who have a culture of non work and poor impulse control. The next time you see someone using public assistance to buy groceries and you feel an upwelling of rage and indignation, try to redirect it towards the good folks out in the town of Skokabok, No Where. The folks who get paid for being being rural and white, you know "The Real Americans," need $100,000 every year in a way that poor families apparently do not need a couple $100 per month.

Sorry for quoting, but,there is so much truth to this. That last paragraph really stands out. Why do people get the need to look at aomeone sideways when using money for food, when the wealthy get paid for vacations, "loans", etc.

It all starts somewhere
 
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Found this too:

- 29 million people are on welfare
- 39% white: 11,661,000
- 38% black: 11,362,000

According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States:
- US population: 313,544,041
- White: 72.4%: 227,005,885
- Black: 12.6%: 39,506,549

Math time!:

Whites: 11.661,000 / 227,005,885 * 100 = 5.13%
Blacks: 11,362,000 / 39,506,549 * 100 = 28.75%

That means the total percentage of all white people in america on welfare is: 5.13%

While the total percentage of all black people in america on welfare is: 28.75%


I can't verify it, just what I found with a quick Google search.


I was replying to this:

"There are a higher percentage of whites on government assistance than blacks tho..."


Which is false. Of course there are more whites on welfare, there are more whites period.

We've already established that was an incorrect statement

I've explained that when looking at poor people that qualify for welfare... More whites than blacks.

When all things are equal from a population of poor people it's more whites than blacks


Take those same numbers... Multiply them by the percentage of poor people that make up the population...

And the numbers level all the way out
 
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Of course there are more whites on welfare, there are more whites period.

The point is that the stereotypical image of the person on welfare/government assistance being person of color is based off of nothing factual.
 
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Why should it matter, who is getting what? This shouldnt be a race debate, rather something bigger.

We all poor
 
people of all backgrounds are on food stamps
we need to find a way to improve the system so the people that do need it, get it
 
Of course there are more whites on welfare, there are more whites period.

The point is that the stereotypical image of the person on welfare/government assistance being person of color is based off of nothing factual.

Agreed, just like the stereotypical image of the rich privileged white guy is based off of nothing factual, as evidenced by the large number of white people who need government assistance to survive in this country. :D
 
Agreed, just like the stereotypical image of the rich privileged white guy is based off of nothing factual, as evidenced by the large number of white people who need government assistance to survive in this country. :D

Since when was that a stereotype in America? If you're white no one automatically thinks you're rich.
 
Agreed, just like the stereotypical image of the rich privileged white guy is based off of nothing factual, as evidenced by the large number of white people who need government assistance to survive in this country. :D

Since when was that a stereotype in America? If you're white no one automatically thinks you're rich.

Good. I am glad that is settled.

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Someone please edit this Wikipedia page about WASPs.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereotypes_of_white_Americans_in_the_United_States
 
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