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So, my boy is being screwed by a company who agreed to lease a computer out to him.

His was stolen, he is not broke but he can't afford to pay it out in full and when he got a great deal that only made him pay around $250 out of pocket for a 12 payment lease he went for it.

This is what it stated:

1. Term and Termination
a. The term of this Lease Agreement shall be for a period of 18 Months, beginning 03/23/2015 and ending on 08/23/2016.
b. Upon expiration of this Agreement, Lessee will either A) purchase the Product for $1.00 or B) ship the product to 199 Main Street, White Plains, NY 10601 and bear the cost of shipping.
c. Neither party may terminate this Lease Agreement.
d. The Equipment is and shall remain the exclusive property of Lessor until Lessee has paid all of the payments described in this agreement.

2. Payments - In consideration for the use of the Leased Equipment, for so long as this Agreement remains in force, Lessee agrees to pay Lessor the sum of $211.10 per month. The first such payment will be due on 03/23/2015, and thereafter payments will be due on or before the 23rd day of each month, with the twelfth and final payment to be made on or before 08/23/2016. Payments will be made by ACH debit from Lessee’s bank account provided. Pre-payments may be made by lessee without penalty.


Problem? It's an 18-month lease but in the contract it very clearly stated that there was 12 payments

"The first such payment will be due on 03/23/2015, and thereafter payments will be due on or before the 23rd day of each month, with the twelfth and final payment to be made on or before 08/23/2016."

This guy means a lot to me and it's sad to see him freaking out over this. This is the fault of the company right? It states that they can't terminate the lease and that neither can my boy unless they both agree to it. Now they're trying to pull a "we made a mistake we'll fix another contract" after he made the first payment.
 
So your boy paid $250 down and will pay another $3600 over 18 months for a computer? And you say he got a good deal? What kind of computer is this?
 
I didn't eem know you could lease electronics. Is it like a rent-a-center?

I don't know what you're expecting your boy to get out of this, seeing as the computer was stolen. You can't claim it's the leasor's fault and not pay them since he agreed to the terms.
 
No Idea how this works, but interested in hearing responses.

If they both agree to terminate the contract can he get his initial payment back?

Why is he leasing a laptop?

$211.10 x 12 months = $2533.2
$211.10 x 18 months = $3799.8

You can get a top line iMac/macbook pro with financing and own it for that price.

Hell, for the first payment you can buy a cheap laptop.
 
So your boy paid $250 down and will pay another $3600 over 18 months for a computer? And you say he got a good deal? What kind of computer is this?
I was saying the same thing....this aint no regular computer. Either that or your boy is a chump.

Nevertheless...the contract is legal. Nothing wrong with it if your friend agreed to it.

Plain and simple your boy got chumped.
 
He paid for $2430 and had a fixed payment of around $100 for a 12 months installment. Called the company threatening legal action. Changed their minds right away.
 
this might not matter but dude had the computer stolen before making the first payment...inside job
 
Threatening legal action for what.

They provided the goods. Your friend took possession of said item and it got stolen when he had it. I want to know how it all happened, cause if that's the case I minus whale go out right now and lease that McLaren 650S and then just it was stolen so I wouldn't have to pay those $15k monthly payments.
 
this might not matter but dude had the computer stolen before making the first payment...inside job


Threatening legal action for what.

They provided the goods. Your friend took possession of said item and it got stolen when he had it. I want to know how it all happened, cause if that's the case I minus whale go out right now and lease that McLaren 650S and then just it was stolen so I wouldn't have to pay those $15k monthly payments.

No, his computer was stolen. His laptop was stolen, which is why he had to lease another computer.

He spent two years gathering money to pay it all off in one blow. Then it was stolen.

That's why he had to lease a desktop, he has a decent job, but he just relocated, put down money for an apartment, AND had his laptop stolen :smh:

He's trying to get reimbursed with renters insurance but that could take a WHILE. A fat while.

So here's what my day was like:

Alright, so here's everything. Origin PC makes custom computers for you. It comes out to the same price as building your own with the same components depending on what you have built. The thing about Origin is that they have the best customer service.

If you build your own computer it comes out to the same price BUT if a part is lacking or breaks down on you, you have to figure out what it is first, then send back that specific part to the manufacture, and they are very picky with how you ship things back, how long it was used, how your computer is built (so that it's not too hot, blah blah etc...

That's why he bought it from there and why it's so expensive. It's a massive workstation/gaming PC, he's a game developer. That's why he needs that don't think this is some pretty boy I want a fancy computer thing.

His laptop was stolen, that thing was a giant fat monster. He's relocating and moving from working in several different cities, to finally planting himself down in San Francisco and I agreed with him that it's worth getting another desktop as opposed to trying to get the same thing in a laptop because that's pretty much double what he paid for this Origin desktop.

The lease that Origin has is great because it's a fixed payment and the rest of the installments go towards paying off the actual computer.

Now the leasing company has to agree to that because of the contract they have with Origin.

They tried to be slick and offered him 12 payments rate over 18 months if he paid around $100 more and he declined, so they said ok because you're credit is good blah blah we can give you the same rate without the fee if you pay the first payment today. So they did, and they sent him the updated contract.

What I posted in the first post is what they stated he had to pay and they emailed him a payment guide sheet showing $211.10 for 18 months. What the ****. So there he goes calling me and a few other friends to figure it out because he called the company and they said he HAD to pay the 18 months or face defaulting.

We go back and forth for two hours, finally, we get a call back from Origin after we let them know what was going on and we three way them. First, I threatened legal action because I found that they would be in breach accepting more than 12 payments of 211.10, then Origin threatened to sever ties with them, finally, they agreed to accept 12 payments of $211.10 + refund the fee at the end of the installment date.

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This is the email they sent back:

That was misunderstanding, you will need to pay us $2,533.20 in 12 months with a monthly payment of $211.10. Your first payment has been submitted.

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LOL

:rofl:

A $1500 misunderstanding? They are hilarious.

Anyway, this has been brought to Origins attention, they guy told me they are following up with others who are financing also.
 
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Damn son I was entering the info as you posted that.


Case: Corsair 350D
Case Fans: ORIGIN PC High-Performance Ultra Silent Fans - Black
Motherboard: ASUS Z97 Gryphon
System Cooling: ORIGIN FROSTBYTE 360 Sealed Liquid Cooling System for 1150 Socket
Processors: Intel Core i5 4690K Quad-Core 3.5GHz (3.9GHz TurboBoost)
Power Supply: 650 Watt Origin Power Supply
Graphic Cards: Single 4GB NVIDIA GTX 970
Memory: 16GB ORIGIN PC powered by HyperX 1866Mhz (2x8GB)
Operating System: Genuine MS Windows 7 Professional 64-Bit Edition
Hard Drive One: 512GB Samsung 850 Pro Series
Hard Drive Two: 512GB Samsung 850 Pro Series
Optical Drive: 12X Blu-ray Reader and DVD Combo
Audio: On Board High Definition 8-Channel Audio
Networking: Onboard Network Port, Wi-Fi add on
ORIGIN Maximum Protection Shipping Process: ORIGIN Wooden Crate Armor
Warranty: 1 Year Part Replacement, Lifetime Labor/24-7 Support
ORIGIN Recovery: ORIGIN Recovery USB3.0 Flash Drive
Evolve Part Upgrade Service: Part Upgrade Service
 
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Damn son I was entering the info as you posted that.


Case: Corsair 350D
Case Fans: ORIGIN PC High-Performance Ultra Silent Fans - Black
Motherboard: ASUS Z97 Gryphon
System Cooling: ORIGIN FROSTBYTE 360 Sealed Liquid Cooling System for 1150 Socket
Processors: Intel Core i5 4690K Quad-Core 3.5GHz (3.9GHz TurboBoost)
Power Supply: 650 Watt Origin Power Supply
Graphic Cards: Single 4GB NVIDIA GTX 970
Memory: 16GB ORIGIN PC powered by HyperX 1866Mhz (2x8GB)
Operating System: Genuine MS Windows 7 Professional 64-Bit Edition
Hard Drive One: 512GB Samsung 850 Pro Series
Hard Drive Two: 512GB Samsung 850 Pro Series
Optical Drive: 12X Blu-ray Reader and DVD Combo
Audio: On Board High Definition 8-Channel Audio
Networking: Onboard Network Port, Wi-Fi add on
ORIGIN Maximum Protection Shipping Process: ORIGIN Wooden Crate Armor
Warranty: 1 Year Part Replacement, Lifetime Labor/24-7 Support
ORIGIN Recovery: ORIGIN Recovery USB3.0 Flash Drive
Evolve Part Upgrade Service: Part Upgrade Service

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There was a clear error on the term of payment showing 12 monthly payments spread for 18 months.  By the way how much is the cost of the equipment being financed?  I ask this since this is important on getting your correct payment.

I think based on the contract it really should be an 18 month payment but there was an error on the wording with "the twelfth and final payment to be made on or before 08/23/2016"

Also I might also reconsider working it out first with the leasing company before suing especially if the financing company is a bank or a financial institution, it's not worth the time and money to have the case go on litigation for that small amount, believe me litigation takes long and these big companies have all the resources to afford this kind of stuff.
 
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I looked into Origin computers when I was in the market and they were significantly more than some of the more well known brands. NO reasons why he couldn't deal with a budget priced computer for a couple months at that price.

Not to be cold, but he screwed himself on this deal! NO computer is worth that much unless you're getting a Mac Pro for a professional video editing job. I bought a Dell XPS from CostCo for $800 with some great specs. For the price he's paying out of pocket over the next year, he could have easily delt with a beater for about $300 for a month or two, then used his payments to get a decent computer after a couple months.

It's too bad both of you are saying he "needs" that type of computer. We all tend to make dumb decisions when we're desperate, some just cost a lot more than others. Try offering to buy out the lease term
 
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