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GirlThatsBlanco said:
I don't know if he cares or not, but you can ask Him when you see him
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I'm looking at him right now and he isn't answering my question 
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BLASTERCOMBO said:
1. In contrast to the supposed “flat earth” verses, there are numerous Scriptures that clearly indicate otherwise.


2. Another passage often referred to is Psalm 75:3, which speaks of God holding the pillars firm. However, the psalms are written in the poetry genre. Rather than referring to literal pillars, this is representative of God’s guaranteeing the earth’s stability

3. So, are there dinosaurs in the Bible? The matter is far from settled. It depends on how you interpret the availiable




I mean that's what I picked up within 20 seconds of searching. There are more and I could literally just copy paste everything honestly
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But you could also find just as many websites to refute your claims.
 
GirlThatsBlanco said:
But you could also find just as many websites to refute your claims.
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What are my claims and what kind of counter argument is this? "im wrong but you're wrong too"? Within your own explanations that you found were glaring augmentative fallacies. I didn't need to find "other websites to refute" them. It was already there in the explanations
 
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Is darth ska the same person as skaABunchofnumbers that likes the wnba?
 
^ Yes. 23ska909red02
GirlThatsBlanco said:
DarthSka said:
"From this vague reference about not being able to see the ends of the earth, we can assume they meant 'round earth', because blah, blah, blah. That's not what the verse actually says, but we can safely assume the meaning to be something other than the actual words."

"This verse that LITERALLY says the earth has 4 corners, well... we're not supposed to take those words literally, either. They meant something else."

"So basically, words that are vague, we interpret to mean what we need the Bible to support, and words that are very clearly against what we need, we have a metaphorical translation that says the actual words aren't what was really meant."

And the verse about the sun being still: in the SAME PASSAGE, there is mention of the moon being still... which it absolutely does not do. You can't say, "See? They knew the sun was still and the earth revolved around the earth, because the verse speaks of a still sun," when there is also mention of a still moon. They understood that the sun revolved around the earth and the moon did the same, but the passage is showing that the god concept is so powerful that his name was called upon to still what was moving (the sun and the moon).
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So when you, "What a beautiful sun rise or sunset." you take that to literally mean the sun is rising and setting?

And you never answered my last question.
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This one?

"But in all seriousness, if you were that devoted to Christ, what exactly caused you to do a 180?"

Didn't answer it because it's about me, and this discussion isn't about me. I said what I said about my past because you mentioned not 'swearing allegiance', and honestly, I shouldn't have.
 
I was curious about the 180 too, but respect your privacy.
 
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BLASTERCOMBO said:
What are my claims and what kind of counter argument is this? "im wrong but you're wrong too"? Within your own explanations that you found were glaring augmentative fallacies. I didn't need to find "other websites to refute" them. It was already there in the explanations
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What I am saying is for every website or source you find that says this verse or that verse is a contradiction in the Bible, you will find just as many websites or articles that refute the claims of contradiction, explain the context and show that there is actually no contradiction.
 
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DarthSka said:
^ Yes. 23ska909red02
This one?

"But in all seriousness, if you were that devoted to Christ, what exactly caused you to do a 180?"

Didn't answer it because it's about me, and this discussion isn't about me. I said what I said about my past because you mentioned not 'swearing allegiance', and honestly, I shouldn't have.
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That's cool I respect your privacy. I won't bring it up again.
 
And when I hear someone say 'sunrise' or 'sunset', of course I don't take it literally.

But there's something else I don't do: apply the meanings of life onto the words of that one, single person and whether or not I should take their every word literally. In fact, if I had known them to make other ridiculous, unbelievable claims, there's a 3rd thing in this reply that I must say I don't do: give that person any credence when it comes to philosophical life meanings.
 
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I really give girlthatsblanco props. Most "Christians" would've just got mad and angry already about people constantly speaking against it but he is actually taking the time to anwser everyone's questions from his point of view.
 
^ You know what? I agree. :smokin

I have no problem with anyone who believe differently than me. I have a problem with jerks who believe differently than me, but I also have a problem with jerks who believe the exact same as me. This girlthatsblanco doesn't seem to be a jerk at all, so yeah, you're on point. :smokin
 
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Oh yes. Like I've said before none of this is personal. I have no ill feelings towards anyone thinking differently than I do.
 
Well thank yall for the compliment And my feelings are mutual. I just try to practice what I believe....giving answers about my faith and loving my neighbors. The 2nd is definitely a struggle though...no lie. Religious debates can typically get heated, but that almost makes them counter productive for me. How can I tell you that my faith where I am supposed to love and respect all people no matter who they are or what they believe and I speak to any of you in a way that is not conducive with that? That makes me and my faith look bad. My goal is always to understand why individuals believe what they believe, not to condemn them or even convince them to change their beliefs. Props to all that participated. Yall may not realize this, but these discussions force me to question my faith more. I had to dig and read my Bible further to understand why I believe what I believe. So thanks for that.
 
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Yeah this is probably the most civilized religious thread I've seen on NT :lol:,came a long way :smokin
 
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Question your faith, because of a Internet back and forth?  I don't even.......  

If you got questions you need to question God, and seek out the answers.  I mean if you got questions about your fathers job you going to ask your father, right?  Not someone who doesn't even operate in the same field as your father. A lot of the stuff these dudes talk is *** backwards.  Just like them refusing to acknowledging my entire logical argument, and trying to take it from a reasoning conversation(debate) to a hardcore agenda push.  The other half were just giving e props to the cats spewing nonsense all while contributing nothing to the discussion.  In which I excused myself from the conversation, because then it just started turning into one giant contradiction.  With them refusing to answer question, and demanding to have their questions answered; and then starting to ask the same questions and making the same demands as were asked given to them pages earlier.  It just became a ring around the rosy, and it was obvious they didn't want a conversation of reasoning.   

Bottom line tho who cares what another believes(faith, religion), and why he believes it.  If someone wants to believe that our entire existence is a fluke, and that our only purpose is to procreate, suck up oxygen, and help the world decay faster; well then more power to them.  

Now if someone is genuinely int rested in your beliefs, and wants to honestly understand your religion(faith) then that's another story.  But it was very clear from the get go that non of these guys were interested in that.  They where so focused on having their questions answered without answering questions that were asked to them first, and fishing for reps with perfectly executed gifs and jokes.  

It was clear they were just trying there hardest to get your blood boiling, and you didn't fall for it.  Now they're giving you props for not giving in, because there all out of gas 30 pages later. Really if a Internet discussion helped sway your faith then your understanding of the bible isn't very strong and all.  Some of these dudes don't have the proper logic to understand the bible let alone things outside of bible(secular world), and what to take from it.  I mean they showed that with the combatant argument against a logical argument that had very little or next to nothing to do with religion.

Some people see what they want to and refute what they know is the truth based off them going through something, or having something happen to them.  That's just how some people move. But at the end of the day your going to do what your going to do, and no one is going to sway you; but you.   
 
I gave him props and wasn't even in that discussion :lol:

Aren't you the one who wanted to give these people the fade? Such a Christian thing to do
 
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I think you misunderstood what I mean when I said question my faith more. I'm saying that there are sometimes concepts or beliefs that Christians or any religion have, but they may or may not know where they come from. There are ideas, commands, certain do's or don'ts that I was tought as a child, that were told to me were in the Bible, but when I read the Bible for myself I didn't find a lot of those things. So what I mean is that I question myself by saying, "Can I back up this belief by finding scriptures to support it?" These discussions cause me to read my Bible more which only strengthens my faith. Trust me, my faith who Christ is and what He has done won't ever change and definitely ain't wavering of an Internet conversation. I expect critics.
 
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Sounds like you're jealous that everyone respects Blanco while you're just the butt of a joke...
 
GirlThatsBlanco comes off as engaging, non-threatening, and non-judgmental, a welcome break from the religious norm.

The norm is this sort of pretentious, condescending, hypocritical divisiveness we see here:
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Question your faith, because of a Internet back and forth?  I don't even.......  

If you got questions you need to question God, and seek out the answers.  I mean if you got questions about your fathers job you going to ask your father, right?  Not someone who doesn't even operate in the same field as your father. A lot of the stuff these dudes talk is *** backwards.  Just like them refusing to acknowledging my entire logical argument, and trying to take it from a reasoning conversation(debate) to a hardcore agenda push.  The other half were just giving e props to the cats spewing nonsense all while contributing nothing to the discussion.  In which I excused myself from the conversation, because then it just started turning into one giant contradiction.  With them refusing to answer question, and demanding to have their questions answered; and then starting to ask the same questions and making the same demands as were asked given to them pages earlier.  It just became a ring around the rosy, and it was obvious they didn't want a conversation of reasoning.   

Bottom line tho who cares what another believes(faith, religion), and why he believes it.  If someone wants to believe that our entire existence is a fluke, and that our only purpose is to procreate, suck up oxygen, and help the world decay faster; well then more power to them.  

Now if someone is genuinely int rested in your beliefs, and wants to honestly understand your religion(faith) then that's another story.  But it was very clear from the get go that non of these guys were interested in that.  They where so focused on having their questions answered without answering questions that were asked to them first, and fishing for reps with perfectly executed gifs and jokes.  

It was clear they were just trying there hardest to get your blood boiling, and you didn't fall for it.  Now they're giving you props for not giving in, because there all out of gas 30 pages later. Really if a Internet discussion helped sway your faith then your understanding of the bible isn't very strong and all.  Some of these dudes don't have the proper logic to understand the bible let alone things outside of bible(secular world), and what to take from it.  I mean they showed that with the combatant argument against a logical argument that had very little or next to nothing to do with religion.

Some people see what they want to and refute what they know is the truth based off them going through something, or having something happen to them.  That's just how some people move. But at the end of the day your going to do what your going to do, and no one is going to sway you; but you.   
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Talking down to people who you say ran out of gas after 30 pages... yet you posted one reply about throwing hands in Jesus' name and then never returned till now. :lol:

(j/k. Please don't homicide me. I don't look good in toe tags. :frown: )
 
What a great conversation...I actually learned a lot. Thanks for not turning this into a religious war 
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