American Millennials are among the world's least skilled.

tay1 said:
Either way, the same chord changes have been used all throughout time. There's videos on youtube that show it. All genres use the same elements, they're just repackaged in a different way, only different instruments are used. I hate when folks look at the past and have selective memories and just ignore all the garbage that came out in their favorite periods of music. Especially the 90's worship.

Ya'll just getting old bros.
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Agreed especially when dudes are talking about nba in the past.
 
Fontaine said:
Every generation thinks the one that follows them sucks.

Nothing new
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It's really not a generational thing. Our country's education system fails it's population, it really is embarrassing. You can't blame millineials or the 80's babies before them but yea, our **** does stink.

This is nothing new. Asian and Scandinavian countries have been ******** on us for decades in these categories.

The problem is now a lot of other countries are improving, either closing the gap or pulling further ahead while our system continues to fail and actively get worse.
 
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brendasdeadbaby said:
Fam when a musician from this generation could manipulate the guitar like this the. Let's talk. The gawd told a story with his skills no computer necessary. All man made.
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I mean there is a reason he's looked at as one of the greatest. Doesn't mean other guitarists are untalented. He's just a guitar god
 
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I mean there is a reason he's looked at as one of the greatest. Doesn't mean other guitarists are untalented. He's just a guitar god
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It's not even just him it's dam near all the musicians from that era. I wasn't even born for about another 15 years but I could tell there is way more craftsmanship/skills and emotion in the songs from the 70's - mid 80's. Dam near everything now is synth pop and everybody sounds the same. Nothing wrong with that I enjoy it as well but it's just not the same, not even close. Everything evolves but it doesn't always evolve for the good. I'm talking rock wise. Hip hop is a diffrent beast.
 
i just prefer real instruments and real talent on display instead of a bunch of computer generated sounds. main reason i listen to classic rock, blues, jazz, classical music, hell even sinatra and the like.

i can't get down with this autotune mess and lyrics about truffle butter and other various garbage songs people deem dope these days.

90s/early 00s hip hop at least had some substance.
 
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brendasdeadbaby said:
It's not even just him it's dam near all the musicians from that era. I wasn't even born for about another 15 years but I could tell there is way more craftsmanship/skills and emotion in the songs from the 70's - mid 80's. Dam near everything now is synth pop and everybody sounds the same. Nothing wrong with that I enjoy it as well but it's just not the same, not even close. Everything evolves but it doesn't always evolve for the good. I'm talking rock wise. Hip hop is a diffrent beast.
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If we're talking about rock, then that's really absurd. There are soooooo many subgenres, and everything sounds the same? C'mon now. You just sound a bit biased to the period of music you like.
 
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rock these days is ok, but the number of great bands is less than it once was. black keys, mgmt, matt&kim, i can't think of many other dope bands that have hit the scene past 5-10 years.
 
Now we're just giving opinion. Can't really speak too much about that.
 
7thAve btn 31stN33rd St said:
Less skilled and the most entitled.
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Elaborate on entitled... This discussion needs to be had.

I mean.. many in the previous generation copped houses and built up wealth off of middle class blue collar jobs (and without college degrees). Then computers blew the heck up and we lost a ton of those jobs to robots and computers... That's on top of all the outsourcing that moved manufacturing jobs overseas... In the current economy employers never wanna give out full benefits, so instead of decent careers, we got a bunch of part time gigs you gotta string together to start moving on up.


Now when you look at the change in education paradigms, you see that we're telling everybody they GOTTA go to college to be successful. So your losing four years of productivity. You are now smart enough to be a manager or decision maker in whatever field you studied.. Then you graduate and find out that all your opportunities are mostly going to be based on who you know... Not what you know. But you hesitate to ask who you know because "ye old guard" thinks your entitled because it took them 12 years to get to a position and you want it in 2. Job postings your qualified for want years of experience you would've needed before you even entered college... Or a master's. (But don't get a master's with no experience because then you will cost too much to employ because you're overqualified.) And even though you did everything you were told... you're potential employer found Billy-Jo-Bob's profile online from 2400 miles away and gave him the job because he looked better on paper.

Oh and you better be one innovative person if you want to be rich off of doing something thats never been thought of... I can name at least 14 times i thought i had a revolutionary invention and then found out it's been done already. Back in the day people we're dumb enough to buy pet rocks... Now you gotta throw your pet rock on amazon, so reviewers can spread what a terrible purchase it is and CNET can compare it to 10 other pet rocks with more features. And don't get me started on safety regulation today vs. back then.

I dunno. I'm just yapping, but it's a fact that making money is harder now  has a lot more hoops to jump through than it did before and your dollar doesn't go nearly as far. Things that were big time consuming jobs before are now done at the press of a button.. But no one wants to pay what they did before to press a button.
 
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brendasdeadbaby said:
Is it not all opinions?? Like what makes your words not an opinion?
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Saying that people have become less talented over time is just bs. Favoring certain artists over others is just a different topic.
 
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tay1 said:
Saying that people have become less talented over time is just bs. Favorite certain artists over others is just a different topic.
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Like I said on the first page there is nobody this generation playing at the same level emotionally and skilled as the artist I have mentioned. Nobody proved me wrong yet. Doesn't mean this crop of talent is trash they are just not as good.
 
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Meh, folks like to focus on the negative, sounding like young bill cosbys . Look how many advances we've made with millennials contributing. Sure you have the lazy, the social media ****** etc, but think about it, just about everything that entertains you today has a millennial involved.

Every generation has their set of losers, you know an old bum *** ***** right now.
 
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brendasdeadbaby said:
Like I said on the first page there is nobody this generation playing at the same level emotionally and skilled as the artist I have mentioned. Nobody proved me wrong yet. Doesn't mean this crop of talent is trash they are just not as good.
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That's cool to feel that way. And there's nothing wrong with that. I was speaking on the facr that some were saying that people today aren't talented. And I showed you one person.
 
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JohnnyRedStorm said:
rock these days is ok, but the number of great bands is less than it once was. black keys, mgmt, matt&kim, i can't think of many other dope bands that have hit the scene past 5-10 years.
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My question is why would we find a great band? What about today's culture is conducive to finding a great rock band? I'm 22. My favorite artists when I was 13 were Jack Johnson, John Mayer, Lupe Fiasco, Common and for the old **** The Eagles, The Beatles, Michael Jackson. But now, I'm completely different. I still like all those, but if I do listen to them it's mostly just inspired by knowing 'Hey, I was really into this at one point.'

Kids today in their 20s aren't any different than kids in their 20s who were at Woodstock in 1969. They listened to Janis Joplin and Credence Clearwater, millenials listen to Childish Gambino and Big Sean. If you're born in a certain time period, you're going to be conditioned to like that certain style of music. If you're born in a certain family, you're going to be conditioned to like the sound and music that they listen to - but you're not going to clutch yourself to that and only that. You're influenced by your peers as you grow up as well.

The problem when bands were coming up 20 years ago - the struggle to get noticed.
The problem with bands growing up now - the struggle to be heard over the rest of the blaring noise (the ease of a band putting themselves on YouTube and somebody coming along and hearing that and uncovering them, the ease of tweeting at a producer and asking them 'What they think of their work.')



brendasdeadbaby said:
It's not even just him it's dam near all the musicians from that era. I wasn't even born for about another 15 years but I could tell there is way more craftsmanship/skills and emotion in the songs from the 70's - mid 80's. Dam near everything now is synth pop and everybody sounds the same. Nothing wrong with that I enjoy it as well but it's just not the same, not even close. Everything evolves but it doesn't always evolve for the good. I'm talking rock wise. Hip hop is a diffrent beast.
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brendasdeadbaby said:
Like I said on the first page there is nobody this generation playing at the same level emotionally and skilled as the artist I have mentioned. Nobody proved me wrong yet. Doesn't mean this crop of talent is trash they are just not as good.
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"I could tell there was way more craftsmanship/skills and emotion in the songs from the 70's-mid 80's."
"Dam near everybody now is synth pop and everybody sounds the same"
"It's just not the same, not even close."
"Everything evolves, but it doesn't always evolve for the good."
"Like I said on the first page there is nobody this generation playing at the same level emotionally and skilled as the artist I have mentioned"
"Doesn't mean this crop of talent is trash they are just not as good"

"Nobody proved me wrong yet."


Why would I or anybody want to give any effort to prove somebody wrong who thinks his opinions can either be proven or debunked? What you're saying is not right, it's an opinion - and because it's only an opinion, something you've come to conclude based on your distinct senses and point-of-view, nobody can prove you wrong because your opinion is subjective. Oh, and biased.
 
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Like I said I was born in 88. Family is Dominican listen to salsa none of my friends or family listen to any sort of rock. been said everything is opinion just like everything else on nt. discussion is over carry on
 
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Somebody who believes everything is an opinion wouldn't have 'pointed out' nobody has falsified their opinion. :lol:

But we will move on because it's a message board: where the conversation is only supposed to move forward when conflicting opinions rub against each other.
 
No because you came late to the party and the ky game is on. And what you are saying has nothing to do with with the statement I made that the musicians today are not as talented as the musician off a certain era. You over here talking about the struggle to get noticed and cultural differences and stuff I already know about. I'm talking about the actually music. What I hear. If you have a song to post to sway my opinion go ahead put my original statement stands. The musicans today are not on par..
 
Mark Antony said:
Meh, folks like to focus on the negative, sounding like young bill cosbys . Look how many advances we've made with millennials contributing. Sure you have the lazy, the social media ****** etc, but think about it, just about everything that entertains you today has a millennial involved.

Every generation has their set of losers, you know an old bum *** ***** right now.
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phacks, bee

Jordan never had a bad game, let these guys tell it.

Where's old economy Steve to show y'all that millennial folks aren't that bad

Does anybody ever stop to think WHY the economy is so bad?


. it wasn't a bunch of cats born in 1990... They were still in high school
 
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America is "failing" because of all these older people in high positions that wanted to make it harder for those that follow them because they didn't want to be overtaken by the younger crowd.

They all got the benefit of going to school when tuition was dirt cheap...then expect those following them to be able to do the same things they did with even more hurdles such as inflation. Then say they are entitled. That's BS.
 
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