NASA scientist warns that California only has one year of water left.

I assume building and maintaining a bunch of desalination plants would greatly increase a water bill in Cali., what's an average water bill run right now? I would guess it's higher than most places already...
 
StephenB said:
I assume building and maintaining a bunch of desalination plants would greatly increase a water bill in Cali., what's an average water bill run right now? I would guess it's higher than most places already...
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I pay less than $100 every other month in the Bay Area for 4 people in the household.

My uncle works for San Jose Water and has told me the whole situation is a joke with PUC not taking anything serious.
 
Ladwp runs me $80-90 every other month for 2 units.

I've read somewhere that ladwp just wants to hike up the rates.
 
cali should just build a giant straw with desalination technology from the pacific ocean to one giant hub where multiple straws quench the thirst of Californians across the state.

#imagineering oh wait that's Disneyland's job
 
tay1 said:
 
Climate change
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pretty much

some idiots still dont think its worth worrying about though 
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Don Adidada said:
Desalinization...its a process that already exists and is more or less a quick fix.
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Apparently extremely expensive too, which is why it's not the go-to around the globe. This technology needs to be affordable for every corner of the planet. California isn't the only place having a bad drought.
 
SoleByThePound said:
 
Don Adidada said:
Desalinization...its a process that already exists and is more or less a quick fix.
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Apparently extremely expensive too, which is why it's not the go-to around the globe. This technology needs to be affordable for every corner of the planet. California isn't the only place having a bad drought.
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I know but I'm pretty positive ahigh initial investment is cheaper than either trucking it in/importing or worse still going to war for water.
 
Don Adidada said:
SoleByThePound said:
 
Don Adidada said:
Desalinization...its a process that already exists and is more or less a quick fix.
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Apparently extremely expensive too, which is why it's not the go-to around the globe. This technology needs to be affordable for every corner of the planet. California isn't the only place having a bad drought.
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I know but I'm pretty positive ahigh initial investment is cheaper than either trucking it in/importing or worse still going to war for water.
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although there isn't enough research being done to effectively suggest that there is a significant correlation, some scientists are suggesting that the prolonged Syrian conflict was due to higher levels of drought in the region.

http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/abs/10.1175/WCAS-D-13-00059.1

Ultimately human behavior is dictated by the Earth with which we live on. Earthquakes, hurricanes, tsunamis, drought, are all problems that make issues in politics, race, and gender seem minuscule. It would be very wise for our country to stop pretending the scientific facts aren't a problem to society. Can't drink our bank accounts.
 
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I don't think a bullet train would help much at all. Your talking about decades and decades of emissions from cars, factories, etc. That stuff is already in the atmosphere, and isn't going anywhere. There's just too much dependency on cars especially here in LA.
 
I think they'll just get water from other states.

This means natural water resources, people in this thread make it seem as if we don't have bottled drinks. :lol:
 
I'm not bathing with no damn Aquafina. The folks in charge in Sacramento going to have to pay up.
 
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I don't think a bullet train would help much at all. Your talking about decades and decades of emissions from cars, factories, etc. That stuff is already in the atmosphere, and isn't going anywhere. There's just too much dependency on cars especially here in LA.
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The bullet train isn't made for local trips so dependancy within city is irrelevant when it comes to bullet trains. Dependancy on cars is high in all of California, and there are LOTS of people who drive from NorCal to SoCal because flying is either too expensive or a hassle to go through an airport. A bullet train would make it cheaper and a lot easier to travel within the state and would take lots of cars off the roads and would also reduce a lot of flights thus reducing emissions.

High-Speed Rail Means Fewer Cars on the Road and Planes in the Sky

The high-speed rail system will take cars off the road and reduce daily flights between major urban regions in California, thus boosting the state’s economic productivity as more travelers and commuters take the train to get around the state: less congestion for drivers and less delay for air passengers.

Fast Facts About Cars, Trains and High-Speed Rail

By 2040, the system will reduce vehicles miles of travel in the state by almost 10 million miles of travel every day.
Over a 58 year period (from the start of operations in 2022 through 2080), the system will reduce auto travel on the state’s highways and roads by over 400 billion miles of travel.
Starting in 2030, the state will see a reduction of 93 to 171 flights daily.
By 2040, the state will see a reduction of 97 to180 flights daily.
Improvements in Air Quality

Fewer cars on the road means improved air quality in the State. California has some of the most congested urban areas with the poorest air quality in the nation. Particularly in the summer months, residents of the Central Valley endure air quality linked to increased rates of asthma and other respiratory ailments. Fewer cars and a train that uses clean energy means cleaner air.

On May 7, 2014, the Authority’s Board of Directors approved entering into a Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) with the San Joaquin Valley Unified Air Pollution Control District that commits the Authority to offset its construction criteria pollutant emissions, commits the District to source, procure and secure the offsets on behalf of the Authority and outlines a process for detailed Voluntary Emission Reduction Agreements (VERA) as the Authority builds out the high-speed rail project within the District boundaries. The MOU will ensure that while thousands of Valley residents get to work on construction of the project, their families and communities will not suffer negative impacts from the construction emissions and other pollutants. The District has established offset programs for replacing aging farm and other equipment, including replacing school bus engines and irrigation pumps. These mitigations complement the Authority’s requirements of the design-build contractors to use clean construction vehicles and recycle 100 percent of steel and concrete.

Memorandum of Understanding with San Joaquin Valley Unified Air Pollution Control District
HSR 14-12 San Joaquin Valley Unified Air Pollution Control District Executed Agreement
Reduction in Greenhouse Gases

According to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, greenhouse gases (GHG) are gases that trap heat in the atmosphere. In 2010 alone, U.S. GHG emissions totaled 6,821.8 million metrics tons of carbon dioxide (CO2). California leads the nation in working to reduce the level of GHG emissions. In 2006, the State Legislature passed Assembly Bill 32, also known as the Global Warming Solutions Act that directs the state to reduce statewide emissions to 1990 levels by 2020, a 17 percent reduction. High-speed rail is part of the state’s GHG reduction strategy.

How Much is High-Speed Rail Expected to Reduce GHG Emissions?

In 2022, when the Initial Operating Section (Merced to the San Fernando Valley) is up and running, the resulting GHG reductions will be between 100,000 to 300,000 million metric tons of carbon dioxide (MtCO2e) equivalent in the first year. That’s the equivalent of taking 17,700 to 53,000 personal vehicles off the road.
Between 2022 and 2040, the cumulative reduction of CO2 is estimated to be between 5 and 10 million metric tons CO2e.
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