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nah.
I would assume the fact that there was illegal drugs and a firearm would be probable cause for a search. I'm no lawyer though so I may be wrong.
Cops make arrests during music video shoot
nah.
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They had NO IDEA that the other individual that they arrested had cocaine on him until the search.
Yes they knew the individual with the black hoodie had a gun.
So why not detain and search him?
Why everyone else? The truth is there was zero probable cause to lawfully detain any of the others present.
Maybe big man with the blunt in his hand, but from what I could see nobody else was smoking or rolling up. Hell there was zero smoke in the air.
Again what was the probable cause to detain all who were present including the damn camera man?
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I'm going to wait til a NTer with more knowledge on the law to come in and elaborate on this. Can't speak because I truthfully don't know.
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These cops aren't dumb man. My boy is an officer in SF with the gang unit. They know exactly what dudes are affiliated. If you're in a video shoot with a bunch of people who they know are affiliated, and one of them has a gun, and one dude was clearly rollin a fat one, they are ALL getting searched.
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The police have the right to detain you "for their own safety" so what makes you thin that they cant detain you when someone in a group of men has a weapon.
They have a right to do that.
Where I think their rights were violated was when they were searching some of the dudes they were going inside their pockets which is an illegal search and also when they took everyone's picture even though everyone had not committed any crime.
It might be wise for some of you to brush up on your local laws and to start learning some of your rights in these types of situations.
They have a right to do that.
Where I think their rights were violated was when they were searching some of the dudes they were going inside their pockets which is an illegal search and also when they took everyone's picture even though everyone had not committed any crime.
It might be wise for some of you to brush up on your local laws and to start learning some of your rights in these types of situations.
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Bruh you know nothing of probable cause or reasonable suspicion?
Fair enough.
But you'd let an officer just search you without question for simply being in the viscinity of someone comitting a crime?
I don't believe that for a second.
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I just stay away from these types of situations. and If somebody I know does hasve a piece on them, they sure as hell aren't flashing it around in public.
I know the basics, if I'm ever in a situation where I'm not sure, I just respectfully decline and wait to see whether or not I'm going to need to contact an attorney.
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I have done so in the past, yes. Although I regret it and if I'm in that situation again I will ask for a badge number and their supervisor and will not allow them to search me.
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Just remember that you are free to leave unless you're being detained and if you're being detained you have a right to know why.
They can't just up and search you without having established probable cause for searching YOU.
Being in the wrong at the wrong time does not constitute probable cause.
Hence my outrage.
I don't understand why that's so difficult to comprehend.
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I understand why you're outraged. I however believe that the cops did have probable cause although I don't have any laws or proof to prove it, and because I don't I wont tell you why they had probable cause. The furthest I can go in my explanation is that they we're all in the presence of drugs and a weapon.
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probable cause was the call about the gun being brandished. the illegal video shoot, and the public consumptions of marijuana...
all those give the police probably cause to search persons seen as involved.
you obviously don't know your own rights very well
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LMAO the illegal video shoot is not reason enough to detain and search EVERYONE.
Nor the one guy rolling a blunt.
They observed the black hoodie individual waving the firearm, at that point they could have detained and investigated him.
I see no probable cause to detain and illegally search all else present.
Seems like it is you who knows nothing about our rights.
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But that goes back to my previous question, if you know that it would be unlawful for you yourself to be detained and searched for simply being in the viscinity of the crime why does that view change in this instance?
Dangerous precedent to set where people are incriminated simply by association.
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that's because you don't know your rights....
it was a legal search because it took place because of reasonable suspicion of consumption of marijuana, and reasonable suspicion of the brandishing of a firearm....
It is reasonable to assume that the gun they found may not have been the gun that the call was about...for the security of a public space it was legal for them to search all persons involved in the shoot.
you just don't know laws too well, that's probably why you did time.
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Cmon on fam I'll be the first to be critical of police,but if the police show up to your video shoot and some dummy pulls out a loaded pistol AFTER they've made their presence known you all should spend a night in jail for stupidity.
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What?
**** you need it to be loaded for if its just a prop? If it's just for a visual effect?
Your hate for the Feds got you talking out ya *** right now
Dude had a loaded weapon and got arrested for it. I get your point, but don't layer bs on top, b.
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****** is getting real philosophical in this thread about dudes with loaded guns and crack rocks being arrested :x
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It's a basic concept that some of these fools just can't seem to understand.
They're too blinded by the black and white. And don't want to look at it for what it really is. A bunch of ****** with illegal **** on them got hemmed up by the Feds. And rightfully so.
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lol
i aint gonna lie as much as i hate the police them dudes were being hot boys. 20 black males deep, blasting loud music, rolling tree in plain view while carrying a loaded strap. all this in a public park?
i aint gonna lie as much as i hate the police them dudes were being hot boys. 20 black males deep, blasting loud music, rolling tree in plain view while carrying a loaded strap. all this in a public park?
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I know the hate for police on NT is real but this was just all out stupid
"You can't have a loaded gun??"
"You can't have a loaded gun??"
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So we as black males can't walk around with crack rocks? SMH at the prison-industrial complex, the pharmaceutical companies, and these crooked Republican politicans.
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It's dudes arguing garbage like this that weakens the argument when police really do abuse their power.
Dudes standing around with crack and loaded guns while their fat homie rolls reggie and spits some struggle bars are not martyrs.
Dudes standing around with crack and loaded guns while their fat homie rolls reggie and spits some struggle bars are not martyrs.
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I mean dude really said the gun was loaded for the sake of the music video he really meant it too
I guess the crack stuffed in the pocket where nobody could see was just a prop?
he really meant it too I guess the crack stuffed in the pocket where nobody could see was just a prop?
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Yet white dudes on youtube walk around in broad daylight with assault rifles just because.
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I mean dude really said the gun was loaded for the sake of the music video
I guess the crack stuffed in the pocket where nobody could see was just a prop?
Nah that was just sheer absent mindedness I'm guessing.
Probably had a punch that never showed and just said **** it and went to the shoot with the stuff on his person anyways.
