Man, It's Gettin' Uglier Out Here...

Mamba MVP said:
I wonder if Grand Wizard blco says any of this nonsense to the hundreds of black people he claims to employ. Just another clown internet persona created to troll and spew ignorance. It's not even comical, at least we can laugh at the nonsense oneimatt posted because it's so outlandish, you sir or madam are just sad.
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Please tell me specifically the nonsense I've posted? All I did was post truthful statistics by the Bureau of Justice Statistics. That makes me a grand wizard? Smh. You guys are so sad and despicable.
 
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You should go up to a group protesting a recent injustice to someone black, and deflate their concerns by enlightening them to the fact that black people commit crimes too. Apparently that's the perfect, matter of fact only time to do it. Let them know your intent is pure and not racist despite when and how you choose to spread that message. After you've fully demeaned them with a condescending air (they're just a silly small minded mob if they reject your approach), maybe you'll get around to explaining why you do that. Why derailing their strive for justice matters so much to you. Because that has to be it, otherwise you're just advocating white rights and supremacy. But of course that's not you, because Meth hasn't banned you because you've cleverly figured a way to stay within the rules. Not you. Nters should apologize for their attempts to assassinate you.
 
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Dude in here posting fake stats trying to make blacks look bad lol. At least come with repeatable sources if you're going to make an argument lol.
 
blco02 said:
Please tell me specifically the nonsense I've posted? All I did was post truthful statistics by the Bureau of Justice Statistics. That makes me a grand wizard? Smh. You guys are so sad and despicable.
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You denied that institutional racism exists.

That's nonsense.
 
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blco02 said:
Ok, well I can post this since we are in a posting contest now:
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Those stats are fake lol . The NCVS doesn't even report a victims perpetrators race lol . Peep the NCVS from 2010 and 2013 and tell me if you see a victims' victimizers race. Get your facts right homie .

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/cv10.pdf

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/cv13.pdf
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Though I doubt blco specifically will even read this link, as it characterizes "the right" negatively and will thus be dismissed offhand, http://www.timwise.org/2013/08/race...right-manipulates-white-fear-with-bogus-data/ it's a good read for those concerned with how actual crime statistics have been distorted in recent years.

More to the point, though, and this is something I think blco ought to address, we should question the rhetorical purpose of the image itself. 

It is, quite plainly, an attempt to characterize Black Americans as somehow inherently disposed to violent crime, particularly when it comes to harming innocent White folks.  Such an allegation is racist on its very face.  

As Wise points out in his piece, 
* Only about 1 percent of African Americans — and no more than 2 percent of black males — will commit a violent crime in a given year;

* Even though there are more black-on-white interracial crimes than white-on-black interracial crimes, this fact is not evidence of anti-white racial targeting by black offenders. Rather, it is completely explained by two factors having nothing to do with anti-white bias: namely, the general differences in rates of criminal offending, and the rates at which whites and blacks encounter one another (and thus, have the opportunity to victimize one another). Once these two factors are “controlled for” in social science terms, the actual rates of black-on-white crime are lower than random chance would predict;

* No more than 0.7 percent (seven-tenths of one percent) of African Americans will commit a violent crime against a white person in a given year, and fewer than 0.3 (three-tenths of one percent) of whites will be victimized by a black person in a given year;

* Whites are 6 times as likely to be murdered by another white person as by a black person; and overall, the percentage of white Americans who will be murdered by a black offender in a given year is only 2/10,000ths of 1 percent (0.0002). This means that only 1 in every 500,000 white people will be murdered by a black person in a given year. Although the numbers of black-on-white homicides are higher than the reverse (447 to 218 in 2010), the 218 black victims of white murderers is actually a higher percentage of the black population interracially killed than the 447 white victims of black murderers as a percentage of the white population. In fact, any given black person is 2.75 times as likely to be murdered by a white person as any given white person is to be murdered by an African American.
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Anyone interested in processing the data themselves may do so easily.  The files are readily available in a number of formats, including SPSS, which makes it easy for anyone with a basic grasp of quantitative data analysis (or an afternoon to spare) to run the numbers. 

Of more immediate interest, at least to me, was the origin of the image itself.  We know where the data came from - supposedly - but what of the image?  

When you see something like that, whether here or on other social media outlets, consider the source.  These days, you can drag and drop images into images.google.com and get a good idea of where they come from and how they're most frequently used.  In this case, I can't responsibly post the results of that search here.  They are, in many cases, just that bad.  

Case in point, if you're trying to avoid coming across as racist, you probably shouldn't be using content that is frequently retweeted by the KKK.  Just a thought.  

So, to return to my line of inquiry:  why, exactly, was this image posted if you do not believe that Black Americans are somehow biologically or "culturally" inferior, as the predilection for violence nonsense so shamelessly implies?  

Because it fits in with your "liberal media distortion" narrative?  That we as a country supposedly care more about Black victims than Whites?  (Except, say, in the case of a missing child...) 

If that's the case, I hope the irony of this all isn't lost on you.  In attempt to show that the "liberal media" (which, in most cases, is disproportionately White to begin with) is "distorting the truth about crime to make it seem like racism is a problem in society when it isn't," what you've actually done is DEMONSTRATED the persistence of racism by trotting out a Klan-endorsed expression of Black inferiority.  

It's funny how these things tend to work.  Either you accept that racism exists, and factor this in when assessing social outcomes that are predominantly influenced by factors like SES, or you tend to wind up saying racist things.  You have to account for the disparities somehow, and, in the narcissistic world of Social Darwinism, the reasoning often seems eerily similar to that utilized in police shootings.  

"They brought this on themselves."
 
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You going to be mad at the dude profiting or the fact that there is a market for him to be able to sell them? All around bad
 
This dude Blco totally dismissed when I pointed out the least educated and poorest states are the most conservative, then posted a ******** stat talking about you guys don't like hard numbers :lol:

I'm starting to think this is just a really elaborate troll job.

Dude might be Black.
 
Something else I've never been able to figure is how is the media liberal?

Fox News is by far the biggest Cable News channel.

As many people watch Fox News than Cnn and MSNBC combined.

Lord knows local networks aren't exactly even handed.
 
Methodical Management said:
Though I doubt blco specifically will even read this link, as it characterizes "the right" negatively and will thus be dismissed offhand, http://www.timwise.org/2013/08/race...right-manipulates-white-fear-with-bogus-data/ it's a good read for those concerned with how actual crime statistics have been distorted in recent years.

More to the point, though, and this is something I think blco ought to address, we should question the rhetorical purpose of the image itself. 

It is, quite plainly, an attempt to characterize Black Americans as somehow inherently disposed to violent crime, particularly when it comes to harming innocent White folks.  Such an allegation is racist on its very face.  


As Wise points out in his piece, 


Anyone interested in processing the data themselves may do so easily.  The files are readily available in a number of formats, including SPSS, which makes it easy for anyone with a basic grasp of quantitative data analysis (or an afternoon to spare) to run the numbers. 

Of more immediate interest, at least to me, was the origin of the image itself.  We know where the data came from - supposedly - but what of the image?  


When you see something like that, whether here or on other social media outlets, consider the source.  These days, you can drag and drop images into images.google.com and get a good idea of where they come from and how they're most frequently used.  In this case, I can't responsibly post the results of that search here.  They are, in many cases, just that bad.  

Case in point, if you're trying to avoid coming across as racist, you probably shouldn't be using content that is frequently retweeted by the KKK.  Just a thought.  



So, to return to my line of inquiry:  why, exactly, was this image posted if you do not believe that Black Americans are somehow biologically or "culturally" inferior, as the predilection for violence nonsense so shamelessly implies?  

Because it fits in with your "liberal media distortion" narrative?  That we as a country supposedly care more about Black victims than Whites?  (Except, say, in the case of a missing child...) 


If that's the case, I hope the irony of this all isn't lost on you.  In attempt to show that the "liberal media" (which, in most cases, is disproportionately White to begin with) is "distorting the truth about crime to make it seem like racism is a problem in society when it isn't," what you've actually done is DEMONSTRATED the persistence of racism by trotting out a Klan-endorsed expression of Black inferiority.  


It's funny how these things tend to work.  Either you accept that racism exists, and factor this in when assessing social outcomes that are predominantly influenced by factors like SES, or you tend to wind up saying racist things.  You have to account for the disparities somehow, and, in the narcissistic world of Social Darwinism, the reasoning often seems eerily similar to that utilized in police shootings.  

"They brought this on themselves."
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Really interested in what blco02 blco02 has to say in response to this.


As far as that picture goes I've seen it before and when ever someone posts it the fail to mention the fact that whites for out number blacks in terms of population. Meaning a black person is far more likely to be in the presence of white "victims" than the other way around. Also, for whatever reason, people of the same race tend live in closer proximity to each other hence why whites kill more whites and blacks kill more blacks.
 
What am I supposed to be responding to? Can I get one question instead of a long rambling diatribe. I'm taking it from all sides on here, constantly getting ganged up on. It's hard to respond to everyone at once. Give me one question and I'll respond.
 
blco02 said:
What am I supposed to be responding to? Can I get one question instead of a long rambling diatribe. I'm taking it from all sides on here, constantly getting ganged up on. It's hard to respond to everyone at once. Give me one question and I'll respond.
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What's your issue with black people?
 
3sTheLuckyNumbe said:
What's your issue with black people?
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The fact that I have to respond to this question is pretty sad and typical of the smear tactics of the American left.

I have never posted a single negative thought about any race. The only thing I've done is dared to be outspoken about another point of view other than the radical left wing that so many of you espouse. I want everyone in this country to succeed. I want to make you guys aware of other points of view. And guess what, the same old thinking and voting patterns that minorities have been in a pattern of for the past 50 years is just making things worse. You guys need to stop voting for left wing politicians who can only offer non stop dependency on government for survival. That alone will help the lives of black people immensely. Again, something that I want.

If I didn't care about black people and all races of people, I wouldn't be in here trying to encourage people that anything is possible in today's society. I told you that if you work hard anything is possible. And for that I'm racist?

If I'm racist, then Meth please ban me. Today. Now. But I'm not and I would like to be able to continue posting on a board that I've been a positive, contributing member for 14 years. But I'm not sensing the same respect that I give others around here.

I don't want to make this thread about me so I'm done for now, anyone feel free to PM me for further discussion and I'll be glad to talk more.
 
I see what you're typing... but do you realize how it is perceived when you argue a point, and to reinforce your pov, you use a chart that most likely originated from a person who may be racist?

For the record, I wish you the best on your road to enlightenment. The fact that you're in here arguing says at the very least you want to see all people come together...
 
blco02 said:
The fact that I have to respond to this question is pretty sad and typical of the smear tactics of the American left.

I have never posted a single negative thought about any race. The only thing I've done is dared to be outspoken about another point of view other than the radical left wing that so many of you espouse. I want everyone in this country to succeed. I want to make you guys aware of other points of view. And guess what, the same old thinking and voting patterns that minorities have been in a pattern of for the past 50 years is just making things worse. You guys need to stop voting for left wing politicians who can only offer non stop dependency on government for survival. That alone will help the lives of black people immensely. Again, something that I want.

If I didn't care about black people and all races of people, I wouldn't be in here trying to encourage people that anything is possible in today's society. I told you that if you work hard anything is possible. And for that I'm racist?

If I'm racist, then Meth please ban me. Today. Now. But I'm not and I would like to be able to continue posting on a board that I've been a positive, contributing member for 14 years. But I'm not sensing the same respect that I give others around here.

I don't want to make this thread about me so I'm done for now, anyone feel free to PM me for further discussion and I'll be glad to talk more.
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268 words.

My post, excluding the quote, was 488 words.  You couldn't be bothered to read that.

It doesn't seem to matter to you that you posted a fake stat from dubious sources that was massively offensive and re-tweeted by the KKK.  It doesn't matter that thousands of people were exposed to that hurtful, false, malicious, and racist igno-graphic because of you.

No, what matters is that your feelings are hurt, and now you're taking your ball and going home.

Until the next opportunity arises to take a pot shot at Black people.

But that's not racist, because you have a Black friend and hire Black people.  You just cling to a profoundly negative and offensive stereotype about "Black culture" that is totally and utterly resistant to facts.  (You have to admit, it would take some nerve for a man to say "there's no such thing as sexism.  Some of my best friends are women, I hire chicks at work, Oprah is rich, and there are even female candidates for President.  Anyone whining about sexism is just lazy and irrational.  End of story.")

Imagine if someone here posted a fake statistic about how "99% of all child sex crimes are committed by White people" and reinforced this by faulting a "culture of violence" exemplified by Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones, The Sopranos, and heavy metal music.  It's not racist!  It's an alternative viewpoint.  Problem?  

Your views on race represent willful ignorance.  You're here to speak, but you are clearly not here to listen.  Otherwise, you might have learned something by now.  You posted fake stats and you won't alter your position.  You see examples of racism in the world every day, and somehow racism is still a relic of the distant past.  You spend all this time desperately protecting an ideal perception of American society that is fundamentally at odds with the lived experience of millions upon millions of people.  

It as though the parable of the blind man grasping an elephant's trunk and declaring that he's captured a snake is totally lost on you.  Your life experiences are valid, but they are relative and incomplete.  You don't have the full picture, and listening to people who are simply echoing your same experiences and prejudices will not change that.  Presenting those views to us is hardly enlightening.  We know how police officers are "supposed" to act.  We know how hiring decisions are "supposed" to be made.  We know how schools are "supposed" to function.  That it's all worked to plan for you is unsurprising.  You simply assume that because it's worked well for you, it MUST therefore work that way for everyone.  When it comes to understanding anything of substance, armchair observation doesn't quite cut it. 

"Thunder is God bowling" represents an "alternative explanation" for a natural phenomenon.  That doesn't mean it's entitled to equal consideration.  If you used your fake crime "fact" as part of a paper submitted to any accredited university in the country, you'd fail the course.  You do not know what you're talking about.  All you do is spew stereotypes "confirmed" through lazy Google searches.  

Don't try to "help" someone solve a complex problem by ranting off the cuff about topics to which you are woefully ignorant.  It's insulting.  You might as well show up in an operating theater and second-guess the surgeon because you watched three episodes of House. 

That you think you have something to offer, that you think your "advice" is relevant, is supremely arrogant.  It's as though you really believe thousands of people will read your posts and exclaim, in unison, "Work harder!  Why didn't I think of that?!"
 
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