Rand Paul gonna mess around and become President?

Bravelude said:
Thought Bush was the worst, but Obama goes down as the worst president in the US. Dude is spending more time golfing, and March Madness than fixing things. His policies are an extension of socialism. OBamacare is a joke. Obamas white fade with Jordan Clarkson curls.look hideous. Dude is like BnW contrast.
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Ill never understand dudes like this getting their rocks off by acting stupid.
 
No chance at all.


It's gonna be Hillary vs. Jeb


HIllary will win.




Will bump in 19 months.
 
He can't abandon the libertarian principals that made him famous in the first place fast enough.
He is trying his hardest to become a lockstep Republican. Why choose that when you can elect the real thing? Bible thumper, middle American types won't vote for him. Wall St won't financially back him. No chance.
 
I'm not voting for Democrat unless Bernie Sanders and/or Elisabeth Warren are on the ticket.

I'm not voting for a Republican...period.

I'm probably gonna vote for an Independent or some smaller party candidate.
 
Republicans should win the next. Demcracks just about hand outs and how the cake looks. Republics care about the taste. True concerns lie at the Treasury of the State, but they are all GS members anyway. Wonder who will quit Obamas cabinent later. haha. Losing ur Sec of Defense is bad, but cats dunno the undeelying crew still frm the Bush regime. All in all, politicians are scams. Obama is just a pity at it. To say Hillary or a female bod will head the US is ground breaking. History shows these ground breaking moves will destroy. Regardless, they are all crooks and they are out there for your money.Janet Yellen speaks more volume than your Barrocky Rodes, but peeps dunno.No clue what Obama has done cept Obamacare. Trynna cut cost for military? Dumb. Wondering if Obarrick has enuff to cause that war in Ukraine. That Keynsian mind set. Obarrick still the worst president ever.
 
RustyShackleford said:
this nonsense again
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 i was kidding...
 
Don Adidada said:
 
I'm not voting for Democrat unless Bernie Sanders and/or Elisabeth Warren are on the ticket.

I'm not voting for a Republican...period.

I'm probably gonna vote for an Independent or some smaller party candidate.
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why not vote green? 
 
Bravelude said:
Thought Bush was the worst, but Obama goes down as the worst president in the US. Dude is spending more time golfing, and March Madness than fixing things. His policies are an extension of socialism. OBamacare is a joke. Obamas white fade with Jordan Clarkson curls.look hideous. Dude is like BnW contrast.
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Bruh, Obamacare was based off Mitt Romney's gov't healthcare plan that was implemented while he was governor of Mass. It's a mandated tax, I can't imagine what other policies you would think are socialist in nature? And what would be wrong with that anyways?  
 
God help us all if this ends up between Hillary vs. [random Republican]. We all know who's going to win.
 
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RustyShackleford said:
Why do people keep saying this.

A husband and wife being President 16 years apart is very different than the getting a Bush every 8 years.

And no, Clinton is got gonna have any competition. She is gonna walk into the nomination.
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clinton and bush are related by bloodline. Obama is related to bush by bloodline...
 
Unfortunately Rand is not his father. Though, I still believe Rand is currently the best option available for our country. I just hope he doesnt abandoned too much of his libertarian ideals.
 
Chopper said:
 
I disagree. Additionally, I think she's unfit to be Commander in Chief. Too many holes in her public record. I don't trust her for ****, similar to my feelings for Romney.
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You voting for Bush then or are you sitting the election out?
sharpshooter718 said:
clinton and bush are related by bloodline. Obama is related to bush by bloodline...
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Do you have actual proof or are you just repeating what some other nut job said?
 
Deuce King said:
Like father...like son. Going nowhere as far as a presidential nomination.
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you are probably righ, however, I think rand has a better chance than ron ever did. Ron would never deviate from his libertarian beliefs for Republican party support, and the Republicans don't Like someone like him that wants to shake things up.
 
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plansb said:
Unfortunately Rand is not his father. Though, I still believe Rand is currently the best option available for our country. I just hope he doesnt abandoned too much of his libertarian ideals.
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Dude would be disastrous for American in my opinion. Any libertarian would.

Everyone rocks with libertarians because of their views on some social issues, and foreign policy but like Ron the more you look into dude the more you see some that is more ideological than realistic.

http://www.vox.com/2015/4/7/8360691/rand-paul-budget-president

Vote in Rand, and give him a Congress to cook with: watch income inequality and systemic racism explode, and doom the country to other generation of having a horrible Supreme Court

Plus I lost all respect for dude for rocking with the Tea Party. Rode a wave of racism to gain a platform just like Cruz

Rubio is the only sensible reasonable would cause the less harm to the county as the GOP candidate
 
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RustyShackleford said:
Dude would be disastrous for American in my opinion. Any libertarian would.

Everyone rocks with libertarians because of their views on some social issues, and foreign policy but like Ron the more you look into dude the more you see some that is more idealistic that realistic.

http://www.vox.com/2015/4/7/8360691/rand-paul-budget-president

Vote in Rand, and give him a Congress to cook with: watch income inequality and systemic racism explode, and doom the country to other generation of having a horrible Supreme Court
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I certainly agree that a lot of libertarian ideas can be more idealistic than realistic. I just think that the current "two party" system is doing a **** job on this country and it's time for something new.
 
plansb said:
RustyShackleford said:
Dude would be disastrous for American in my opinion. Any libertarian would.

Everyone rocks with libertarians because of their views on some social issues, and foreign policy but like Ron the more you look into dude the more you see some that is more idealistic that realistic.

http://www.vox.com/2015/4/7/8360691/rand-paul-budget-president

Vote in Rand, and give him a Congress to cook with: watch income inequality and systemic racism explode, and doom the country to other generation of having a horrible Supreme Court
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I certainly agree that a lot of libertarian ideas can be more idealistic than realistic. I just think that the current "two party" system is doing a **** job on this country and it's time for something new.
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People blame the two part system because lets be truly honest. it is the people in power not the system. And the blame for the current gridlock is the GOP, specially Congressional Republicans, more specially the Tea Party.

To govern a large group of people that have a wide range of views requires compromise. But when have a group of people that talk about compromise and some sort of treason

I would love a third party candidate. To be honest that wouldn't fix a damb thing, unless he came in on a sweeping mandate and had tons of public support and money behind him

America needs to stop wishing for one magical candidate to fix all other issues. It is seriously such a lazy way to look at thing when you think of it. The country needs sweeping election reform instead. There is nothing wrong with a party party system if they truly answer to their respective district, state, nation.

-Undo all the gerrymandering. Extremely important

-Everyone gets term limits: 8 year for President, 12 for Senators, 16 for Congressmen

-President moves to popular vote. That way every citizen in the territories can vote.

-Do away with voter ID laws, or fund free easily accessible IDs for every citizens.

-Give non violent felons a chance to get back their voting rights

-Election day is a national holiday. Every year.

-A ton for extended voting and polling stations. Even some overnight ones so everyone gets a chance to vote

-Lobbyist reform

-Undo the damage citizens united caused.

-Make voting an opt out system, instead of an opt in system. Big too

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-Mandate that the presidential debates actually be debate, with expert judges, and fact check to be broadcast live. Third candidates compete a separate, the declared winner enters the major debate. ( this probably can't be passed by laws though)

-People have to turn out to damb vote. Even in the current system, the American public is seemingly living their front door open and then complaining when they get robbed. A lot of the foolishness could be kept in check if these worthless politicians knew they will have to answer to a educated active electorate

That way we have a more representative government and third party candidates have a better chance, or at least a chance to influence the issues that are discussed.

-Imma keep it #1HUNNA, I'm a progressive/liberal but I see the importance of many things conservatives (the realistic ones, not the loons that currently populate the GOP, which to me is a warped form of conservatism) talk about. My ideal third party candidate would be a progressive too. Kinda like candidate Obama instead of President Obama (but I still understand the need to govern in the middle, so I don't ***** about it like other liberals seem to love to do)

But if a libertarian president and Congress were elected in the system I outline, then I would have much less problems with how they govern. Since they would be representing the will of the people.
 
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Zero chance. The clear favorite overall at the moment is Clinton. The republicans do not have a strong potential candidate atm but it's still super early. Jeb bushes number are low, Ted Cruz :lol: I'd move out the country. Hilary Clinton and I could see her choosing O'mally as her running mate when he drops out.
 
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