Annnnd another one....Eric Harris...these police are tripping. Vol. Unbelievable....but sadly I bel

The PD tired to calm down the wave by charging him with manslaughter smh.. Dude is gonna walk. And It's a shame cause Eric was handed the death penalty on capture, and this ***** was literally in police custody when they gunned him down. Nowadays police work is a joke, an although they're not all bad I'm still gonna have to have a talk with my kids of color over how ****** up the judicial system can be. Stories of Emmit Till, Travyon Martin, Rodney King, Mike Brown, Walter Scott would be told before the birds and the bees talk in my house.
 
I'll agree with the blaming the Police on mostly all the other cases. But here, this man was selling an undercover officer guns, and ran out of the vehicle, possibly fleeing with a gun on him.
Thanks for giving me a good morning laugh
 
..Smh our ppl just getting gunned down left and right under the guise of justice


Were scared off them, they're "scared" of us but our fear isn't valid or respected.

Guilty unless video evidence!? Oh the times..
 
its not that blacks being hunted, its everyone. 2 whites were killed last week by police. I keep saying this the more pepple day its just blacks nothing will change. Whites ate being killed as well. All races

Heres one http://www.thetelegraph.com/news/news/152906144/Alton-police-shoot-kill-suspect
did you read the article or just Google "cops kill white male"?

I'm not trying to downplay it, but dude actually had gun and they told him to stop.

Even witnesses say the same thing

And he just had a standoff with the police less than a day prior


Alton police shot and killed a man suspected of homicide Monday afternoon, less than 24 hours after he triggered a several-hour-long standoff with Madison County deputies and tactical officers in Worden Sunday night.
 
The comment at 1:26 from what I can hear is a combination of the end of "Stop fighting NOW" and the shooter saying "TASER"


The cop who says "F your breath" I want to stab him in the lungs
 
Like I said before... I blame the Police for all these cases of them over exerting force and killing unarmed men. It's very unfortunate, and these officers need better training, and not go right for the gun. I don't even know why the law allows there to be cops in their 70s, thats ridiculous. I'm sorry, but there is no good a 70 plus something cop can do.

Unarmed black men being killed by police really need to stop. Cops need to stop shooting first and asking later. How could you possibly mistaken your gun for a taser in the first place? I'm glad at least in the South Carolin shooting, they held the killer responsible and handled it in a better way then the other shootings.

But in this case, which the officer was obviously wrong...this guy was selling guns to an undercover officer and ran. You would think somebody who is selling guns, would you know...have a gun on them. And you don't really see in the video until after the shot went off, that the officers had him restrained.
Cops knew they had him restrained so there was no reason for them to be pulling anything except cuffs. 
 
this is like what happened on that bart train in the bay. cop said he meant to grab his stun gun and instead grabbed his heavy *** 9mm by 'mistake'.
 
That whole department should be shut down.

Giving the ok for a 73 yo insurance executive to be apart of an under cover sting operation. :stoneface:

Already got him down and you wanted to use the taser but "accidentally" pulled the gun instead. :smh:

Dude must have been waiting years for some action as a volunteer cop, just waiting for an opportunity to deal out "justice".
 
What really bothers me about this incident is that we without a doubt know the outcome.

This guy will walk. The whole charge was just them trying to pacify the public.

Saw the guy's lawyer on TV saying he was trying to talk them into ruling it an accidental homicide before they pressed charges.

DA wont take it to trial cuz he knows they wont win the manslaughter charge. The will offer dude a plea to sumtin so freakin light and dude will accept. Pretty sure no jail time will be involved. Extended probabtion or sumtin

Prayers are with the family for their lawsuit battle. The man was committing a felony but does anyone know if that will hurt there chances on a wrongful death lawsuit or something along those lines?
 
It's amazing how many folks are ok with the lack of human rights and due process. "Well if he hadn't..." ya'll are missing the point and gravely mistaken if you think you're safe in your cocoon and can't realize the dangerous precedence set.
 
Cop who said "f your breath" should be fired

That's the number one thing I'm upset about.

Yeah what the guy was doing is wrong, and the shot could have very well been an accident.

But this guy is on the ground for almost an hour dying asking for help and you have the audacity to say "**** your breath."
 
That whole department should be shut down.

Giving the ok for a 73 yo insurance executive to be apart of an under cover sting operation. :stoneface:

Already got him down and you wanted to use the taser but "accidentally" pulled the gun instead. :smh:

Dude must have been waiting years for some action as a volunteer cop, just waiting for an opportunity to deal out "justice".

This
 
That's the number one thing I'm upset about.

Yeah what the guy was doing is wrong, and the shot could have very well been an accident.

But this guy is on the ground for almost an hour dying asking for help and you have the audacity to say "**** your breath."
"to protect and serve"

They need to clean house and change hiring practices.

I know most wont agree with me, but I just can't trust a police force full of people who have a clean slate. I'm sure you can shuck the lie detector but eliminating all applicants with a 'record' should be revamped on a case by case basis....smoked weed? if it's not in your system at time of application....allow them to apply.

I am a firm believer in wanting clean slates so you can mold them into what we're seeing almost everyday now. It's sad.
 
I honestly think Cops KNOW they are being reported and make "calls" loud enough for the camera to pick up on it to cover themselves.

Like dude saying Taser/Gun. They might say these things out loud even if they don't really see anything just as a justification to do whatever the hell they do
 
IDC if he was selling weapons of mass destruction, he was down when he was shot. Dude legit had officers on top of him being cuffed and dude just shot him. Like that **** is crazy. Blk white Asian whatever ubdont shoot a unarmed man while he's cuffed, that's crazy. Dude was one of them old racist who wanted to shoot a black dude. Then son is saying he can't breathe and cop says **** your breath?
 
Is is not as bad since dude lived, and I'm posting this to try be on some cornball "everyone get it too, not just blacks" cause well all now blacks are the targets of this nonsense more than anyone else.

But as a whole, cops are wildin out these days

Take a look at this, ole boy probably saw Fast and Furious 7 last night and came to work hyped. Straight mows dude down :x

http://www.abc15.com/news/region-ce...eo-shows-arizona-officer-hit-suspect-with-car
 
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I actually believe the old man shot him on accident. That ain't emm what upsets me, its the disregard for his life that rubs me the wrong way.
 
Is is not as bad since dude lived, and I'm posting this to try be on some cornball "everyone get it too, not just blacks" cause well all now blacks are the targets of this nonsense more than anyone else.

But as a whole, cops are wildin out these days

Take a look at this, ole boy probably saw Fast and Furious 7 last night and came to work hyped. Straight mows dude down :x

http://www.abc15.com/news/region-ce...eo-shows-arizona-officer-hit-suspect-with-car

That's wild, but dude was walking away with swagger, bustin his gun in the air like "I wish a cop would".
 
Bruh....you gotta be kidding me...


(CNN) — The reserve deputy who shot a suspect with his firearm rather than his stun gun, and another deputy who can be heard cursing at the suspect after he was shot, were not in their normal states of mind because of the elevated stress of apprehending the suspect, according to a Tulsa, Oklahoma, investigator.

Tulsa Police Sgt. Jim Clark, who has been brought in to review the case, said Tulsa County Reserve Deputy Robert Bates, 73, “inadvertently” shot Eric Courtney Harris after Harris — a possibly PCP-addled felon who had days prior sold methamphetamine to an undercover officer — ran from authorities after trying to sell an illegal handgun during an undercover sting.

As deputies tried to handcuff Harris, Bates arrived with a pepper spray gun in hand. He warned his fellow deputies he was going to use a Taser on the suspect, but instead, he fired a single gunshot — and immediately apologized, Clark said, citing a recently released video.

Clark attributed Bates’ actions to a phenomenon known as “slip and capture.” An example is when someone who drives a car with a manual transmission gets behind the wheel of a car with an automatic transmission. The driver will press her or his left foot down when stopping abruptly, even though there’s no clutch pedal, he said.

Quoting Bill Lewinski, executive director of the Force Science Institute, Clark further explained: “These are mistakes that are made when you think you are doing one thing but you actually are doing another, and the result often is directly opposite of what you intended. In effect, your intended behavior slips off the path that you want it to go because it is captured by a stronger response and sent to a different direction.”

Bates announced that he was going to deploy his Taser, and he pulled the trigger only once, as he was trained to do, Clark said. Police are trained to “double-tap” when firing their handguns, he said. The gun jumped out of Bates’ hand because he wasn’t expecting recoil, Clark said, and Bates expressed surprise and remorse that he had shot Harris.

Quoting Lewinski again, Clark said, “This is the slip and capture. Under time pressure to address a perceived threat, his intention to draw his Taser slipped off his agenda, so to speak, when it was captured and completed by a more well-rehearsed motor program. … He was not conscious of this unfortunate switch until after the shot was fired. In his urgency, his concentration was focused exclusively on Harris’ back, where he intended to place the Taser darts. Because of what’s called ‘inattentional blindness,’ meaning that he wasn’t consciously paying attention to and registering it, he wouldn’t have been aware that the feel of the gun was different from that of the Taser. And in this case the weight of the gun and Taser are nearly identical.”

Clark was emphatic that Bates had done nothing criminally wrong and went so far as to say the reserve deputy was a victim.

“Reserve Deputy Bates did not commit a crime. Reserve Deputy Bates was a victim, a true victim of slip and capture,” he said. “There’s no other determination I could come to.”


‘He shot him!’

When they set up the undercover sting, police wanted evidence on camera. But when they recorded the operation targeting Harris earlier this month, cameras continued to roll as the suspect ran, and as he was fatally shot.

The Tulsa County Sheriff’s Office released the video on Friday. The shooting was an apparent accident, it has said.

In the last minutes of the video, Harris lies on the pavement with police on top of him. An officer calls for a Taser, but in place of an electric clicking sound, a gunshot rings out.

A voice can be heard saying, “Oh! I shot him! I’m sorry!” Another officer screams out, “He shot him! He shot him!”

Harris, who is bleeding, calls out, too. He’s losing his breath, he says. An officer yells back at him.

“You f**king ran! Shut the f**k up!” he yells. “F**k your breath,” he said.

Clark defended the officer’s language, saying the deputy experienced auditory exclusion, never heard the gunshot and thought the suspect was out of breath from running. The language has no bearing on whether the shooting was justified, Clark said.

“One deputy thought he was going to have to shoot this person at the arrest site. It’s very upsetting when you think you are going to have to take someone’s life and this deputy, one of the involved deputies, was upset,” he said. “Secondly, this is total stress. They are going after a dangerous suspect that they have no idea whether or not this person is armed.”

Clark added, “They did not know that he was shot at this time. They had audio exclusion. They was at a point where they couldn’t hear. They didn’t even hear the gunshot go off. The officers did not know that Mr. Harris had been shot.”

An officer can be seen in the video taking his foot off an object lying on the pavement not far from Harris.

Shortly after the suspect is shot, the officers begin tugging Harris’ hands behind his back as the video ends.

Harris later died at a local hospital. Police said at the time of the shooting that Harris admitted to medics at the scene that he may have been under the influence of phencyclidine, a street drug commonly known as PCP.

The video is edited to block out the officers’ faces. Harris is clearly visible.

‘German Luger’ deal

Minutes earlier, Harris had climbed into a truck cab, where an undercover officer had set up a camera on the dash to record the suspect.

“What’s up?” they greet each other cordially. Without missing a beat, Harris rummages deep in a backpack and hastily hands over a semiautomatic pistol. Every few seconds, he looks around outside nervously.

“Sweet, that’s a nice gun, man,” the undercover officer says off camera. It’s a “German Luger,” Harris tells him.

He cranes his head around quickly and watches as a car pulls up next to the truck. Officers in uniform jump out, and Harris bolts out the passenger door and sprints off.

“He’s running; he’s running, he’s running!” the officer in the truck says.

As Harris fled, police worried he might still be armed because he ran with his right forearm pressed against his hip, “consistent with trying to maintain control of a gun,” Clark said, adding that no gun was found when Harris was searched after the chase.

Another video from an officer’s body camera picks up the chase. The officer wearing it jumps out of a vehicle and pursues Harris on foot, catching up to him easily. He tackles the fleeing suspect.

The officer commands him, “I need you to roll on your stomach. Now!” Other officers appear. Someone calls, “Taser! Taser!”

The gun discharges.

Much later in the recording made by the first camera inside the truck, two men are conversing. “He thought it was his Taser,” one of them says, as the other curses in frustration.

In the background, a woman is crying “No, no, no!” Harris had come to the sting deal with a female companion.

Officer suspended

Police have said that Harris had reached for his waistband, and officers feared he might endanger them. When Harris was on the ground, he “refused to pull his left arm from underneath his body where his hand was near his waistband,” they said after the shooting.

The officer’s body camera video did not reveal that area of Harris’ body.

Bates, a former Tulsa police officer, was placed on administrative leave after the shooting, the sheriff’s office has said.

Asked whether Bates’ age may have been a factor in the shooting, Clark said, “It’s happened to 21-year-old law enforcement officers. It’s happened to 30-year-old law enforcement officers. Age is not really a factor in consideration for the dynamics behind slip and capture events.

Despite the details released over the weekend, Harris’ brother says he still want answers.

“I want to know if he was shot in the back accidentally or on purpose. These are all the things that not only I want, but the public wants,” Andre Harris told CNN affiliate KTUL.

Bates’ attorney, Scott Wood, told CNN on Friday he would contact the network later. He had not issued a statement or called back as of Sunday.

Nearly identical huh?

average weight of 9mm, loaded, 41 oz.

average weight of stun gun, 8 oz.

foh b.

he admitted that he 'may' have been on pcp? wash your face b. how does one admit what they 'may' do? admitting is confirming either you do or you do. Admitting is confessing what is true or to be the case. These guys are just talking **** now.
 

Police will always have police backs.

If this **** flies, it'll set a precedent on killing blacks and Browns at will and using the "heightened stress" defense.
 
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