Am I the only person that think the fear of illegal imigration is absurd?

I didn't know about basic voting rights?

Okay brah. Lets just say **** it and have no borders. Everyone can come in. No countries. Have at it. It'll end well. A perfect utopia.
Everyone against illegal immigration is racist. I've met more illegal Europeans than mexicans, but whatever you say.
 
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I didn't know about basic voting rights?

Okay brah. Lets just say **** it and have no borders. Everyone can come in. No countries. Have at it. It'll end well. A perfect utopia.
Everyone against illegal immigration is racist. I've met more illegal Europeans than mexicans, but whatever you say.

I never even said or implied any of this. Nor did I call you a racist.

Once again you choose to be defensive rather than conversation. Same thing you accused Ricky of doing
 
Open the borders and nothing will change. It's not hard to get in if you have bread. 16k will get you up from Ecuador. People act like we're the only country people sneak into.
 
Plus I don't get why people have it in their head that what liberals/Latinos/democrats are calling for is open borders and make everyone instantly legal.
 
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Plus I don't get why people have it in their head that what liberals/Latinos/democrats are calling for is open borders and make everyone instantly legal.

No idea. They probably think it's going to instantly turn us to Mexico or something. People just see Latinos all as Mexican and all as illegal. People don't get that you can't stop people from coming in and you damn sure aren't stopping the cartel. People are gonna do what they want to do. The cartel is in China too and everywhere else the U.S. Acts like we're the only ones the cartel brings drugs to. They bring drugs all over the world because they make money. It's nothing personal like they make it seem
 
It's a ridiculous fear. You'd have to be an idiot to think they are coming after your jobs. There is a huge discrepancy between the jobs they take and the jobs most americans will take. Not to mention if you lose your job to someone who barely speaks english you didnt deserve that job.
 
Meh I'll take a non English speaking illegal cook all day over a culinary school graduate. That's just for my field though. But I'm sure landscapers and everyone feels similar. Hard working Latino or a dumb white guy. Not s tough decision.
 
Meh I'll take a non English speaking illegal cook all day over a culinary school graduate. That's just for my field though. But I'm sure landscapers and everyone feels similar. Hard working Latino or a dumb white guy. Not s tough decision.
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Meh I'll take a non English speaking illegal cook all day over a culinary school graduate. That's just for my field though. But I'm sure landscapers and everyone feels similar. Hard working Latino or a dumb white guy. Not s tough decision.

Thats my point.
 
theres two sides, the theoretical aspect and the attachment of low end labor type jobs. the mindset that theyll do anything for money can lead to a very different path. if you are in poverty, are u gonna rob someone else thats poor?


border controls are as important as airspace, sea regions, etc. they should be monitored n enforced.

america is supposed to be the land of opportunity, buy most dont see that,
 
In the news.. .tell me again the fear isn't rational?

Feds releasing hundreds of illegal immigrant rapists, murderers: report
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/apr/14/feds-releasing-illegal-immigrant-rapists-murderers/

According to the statistics, the aliens released by ICE had amassed 13,636 convictions for driving under the influence, 1,589 weapons offenses, 994 aggravated assaults, 56 arsons and 31 smuggling offenses.

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It isn't.

Shouldn't all rapists and murderers be released back to their home countries?

As for the other offenses, that's no different than releasing US criminals after they've done their time.
 
:lol: @ Fontaine

Sunshine. Yeah you're right and thanks for correcting my typo :lol:

Not all illegals are doing unskilled labor. I've worked under a James beard winning chef who had an illegal dude running his kitchen. Also how many of you know how to hang drywall, pour sidewalks etc? It isn't just unskilled labor. Our whole country relies on it really, whether you know it or not they do a lot.
 
Im not saying its unskilled labor, im saying there is a lack of born and raised americans willing to do that type of work. The fact that they work so hard at it is a testament to the fact that if you lost your job to them you didnt deserve it. I have much respect for all the illegal immigrants doing that type of labor, since nobody else will.
 
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I worked in Yuma Arizona for 2 1/2 months, i did not see one non hispanic worker in those fields during those 120 degree days, not one. so kill all that job loss talk
 
I worked in Yuma Arizona for 2 1/2 months, i did not see one non hispanic worker in those fields during those 120 degree days, not one. so kill all that job loss talk

I have seen less than 40 non hispanic workers on fields and lawns in my 17 years in chicago.
 
I have to laugh, when on the topic of illegal immigrants, some of the most ardent leftists become staunch defenders of markets and capitalism.
 
Meh I'll take a non English speaking illegal cook all day over a culinary school graduate. That's just for my field though. But I'm sure landscapers and everyone feels similar. Hard working Latino or a dumb white guy. Not s tough decision.
Hard working Latino or dumb white guy? Generalize much? How about you take the best person for the job. You making it an ethnicity thing is pretty discriminatory.
 
I have to laugh, when on the topic of illegal immigrants, some of the most ardent leftists become staunch defenders of markets and capitalism.

Stop it brah

Since when does being on the left mean your against capitalism :lol:

And like the right doesn't do the same thing with Heath Insurance companies, ISPs, and Car Dealerships. :rolleyes
 
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And right wing douches who defend capitalism love to throw bailout money on the auto industry, despite the fact that they were in that position because they couldnt compete, and big banks.

Everyone's a hypocrite I guess

Tho I dont see how leftist are against capitalism.
 
 
At least indians got some decent reparations .....wish my pockets were lined with that casino money 
Who is really getting that Casino money tho?  Meet the Mohegan Tribal Council

Half of them are middle aged white dudes 
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Meh I'll take a non English speaking illegal cook all day over a culinary school graduate. That's just for my field though. But I'm sure landscapers and everyone feels similar. Hard working Latino or a dumb white guy. Not s tough decision.
Hard working Latino or dumb white guy? Generalize much? How about you take the best person for the job. You making it an ethnicity thing is pretty discriminatory.
White dish washers stay long enough to get a check and once they get their first check they don't come back. Miss me with the "generalizations" I got 12 or so years in restaurants. I need people I can count on showing up to work. Not getting a check and going off on a heroin bender.

Just an example of the crap you have to deal with. If a white dude is still bottom of the totem pole in any manual labor job there is an issue. They can't move up because of their citizenship. Citizens don't have that problem unless they are garbage.
 
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So being "left" means you are against the market and capitalism?

Dudes falling for the con and label game :smh:
 
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