Lakers OFF-SEASON IS A WRAP

How Many Regular Season Games Do You Think Kobe Will Play This Year?

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Essential1 said:
Okafor will be fine. He's one of the best low post scorers to come out of the draft since 2000.

Has a high basketball IQ, has many moves and counter moves in the post, can pass out of the post, knows how to make decisive moves and turn away from and pass out of double teams.

Has already dropped weight to be able to play quicker on defense.

Defense is just as much about effort as it is skill, if not more about effort. His biggest problem on defense was lack of effort. He was lazy and gave lackadaisical effort. Just get his effort up and he'll be passable at defense because he is not undersized at all.

Two legit concerns is he's not a midrange shooter, his defense.

Effort solves a lot about his defense. He'll never be Marc Gasol, but just needs to be fine on defense and in combination of his offense he'll be a solid player.

His midrange, has to be practiced. Just need to work.

Remember 1st year player is normally not a finished product.

And if you bring up that the NBA has moved away from big low post centers, the explanation is easy. There's not enough good low post centers for every team to play that way. Maybe having one gives us an advantage.
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I swear you're the only person in this entire thread that ever makes any type of sense.

I wanna slap someone seeing the **** yall post sometimes :lol:
 
Essential1 said:
Okafor will be fine. He's one of the best low post scorers to come out of the draft since 2000.

Has a high basketball IQ, has many moves and counter moves in the post, can pass out of the post, knows how to make decisive moves and turn away from and pass out of double teams.

Has already dropped weight to be able to play quicker on defense.

Defense is just as much about effort as it is skill, if not more about effort. His biggest problem on defense was lack of effort. He was lazy and gave lackadaisical effort. Just get his effort up and he'll be passable at defense because he is not undersized at all.

Two legit concerns is he's not a midrange shooter, his defense.

Effort solves a lot about his defense. He'll never be Marc Gasol, but just needs to be fine on defense and in combination of his offense he'll be a solid player.

His midrange, has to be practiced. Just need to work.

Remember 1st year player is normally not a finished product.

And if you bring up that the NBA has moved away from big low post centers, the explanation is easy. There's not enough good low post centers for every team to play that way. Maybe having one gives us an advantage.
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I don't think it's just that there haven't been that great low post centers which has caused the low post game to diminish. The rule changes play a huge role in that. Just look at the offenses that have low post scorers and you'll see that their offenses aren't that efficient. On top of that the best low post players in the league today aren't posting up amazing efficiency in the low post.

I still think it's an important/useful aspect to have in your offense. But it can't be those straight dump it down low post ups which I'm sure Byron will have Okafor do. They should be on the move, off picks, etc. Gsw post up Dray off a multitude of actions that I don't think Scott is capable of understanding.

I want Okafor. I just don't want him to simply be a dump the ball into him type guy.
 
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MoonMan818 said:
Essential1 said:
Okafor will be fine. He's one of the best low post scorers to come out of the draft since 2000.

Has a high basketball IQ, has many moves and counter moves in the post, can pass out of the post, knows how to make decisive moves and turn away from and pass out of double teams.

Has already dropped weight to be able to play quicker on defense.

Defense is just as much about effort as it is skill, if not more about effort. His biggest problem on defense was lack of effort. He was lazy and gave lackadaisical effort. Just get his effort up and he'll be passable at defense because he is not undersized at all.

Two legit concerns is he's not a midrange shooter, his defense.

Effort solves a lot about his defense. He'll never be Marc Gasol, but just needs to be fine on defense and in combination of his offense he'll be a solid player.

His midrange, has to be practiced. Just need to work.

Remember 1st year player is normally not a finished product.

And if you bring up that the NBA has moved away from big low post centers, the explanation is easy. There's not enough good low post centers for every team to play that way. Maybe having one gives us an advantage.
Click to expand...

I swear you're the only person in this entire thread that ever makes any type of sense.

I wanna slap someone seeing the **** yall post sometimes :lol:
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Slap me brah.
 
Jab Step said:
I don't think it's just that there haven't been that great low post centers which has caused the low post game to diminish. The rule changes play a huge role in that. Just look at the offenses that have low post scorers and you'll see that their offenses aren't that efficient. On top of that the best low post players in the league today aren't posting up amazing efficiency in the low post.

I still think it's an important/useful aspect to have in your offense. But it can't be those straight dump it down low post ups which I'm sure Byron will have Okafor do. They should be on the move, off picks, etc. Gsw post up Dray off a multitude of actions that I don't think Scott is capable of understanding.

I want Okafor. I just don't want him to simply be a dump the ball into him type guy.
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That's a valid point.. Is a mixture of it.

But say there were 30 good to great low post bigs in the league.. Regardless of rule change, there would be an emphasis on it. But since there's maybe a handful, if that, the game has gone small.

And I agree, I don't want him to be just a one trick pony, or get all his water from one well on offense either.

He's going to have to work at his game, that's a given.
 
LiCeNseD To BaLL said:
MoonMan818 said:
Essential1 said:
Okafor will be fine. He's one of the best low post scorers to come out of the draft since 2000.

Has a high basketball IQ, has many moves and counter moves in the post, can pass out of the post, knows how to make decisive moves and turn away from and pass out of double teams.

Has already dropped weight to be able to play quicker on defense.

Defense is just as much about effort as it is skill, if not more about effort. His biggest problem on defense was lack of effort. He was lazy and gave lackadaisical effort. Just get his effort up and he'll be passable at defense because he is not undersized at all.

Two legit concerns is he's not a midrange shooter, his defense.

Effort solves a lot about his defense. He'll never be Marc Gasol, but just needs to be fine on defense and in combination of his offense he'll be a solid player.

His midrange, has to be practiced. Just need to work.

Remember 1st year player is normally not a finished product.

And if you bring up that the NBA has moved away from big low post centers, the explanation is easy. There's not enough good low post centers for every team to play that way. Maybe having one gives us an advantage.
Click to expand...

I swear you're the only person in this entire thread that ever makes any type of sense.

I wanna slap someone seeing the **** yall post sometimes :lol:
Click to expand...

Slap me brah.
Click to expand...

Temecula?
 
MoonMan818 said:
LiCeNseD To BaLL said:
MoonMan818 said:
Essential1 said:
Okafor will be fine. He's one of the best low post scorers to come out of the draft since 2000.

Has a high basketball IQ, has many moves and counter moves in the post, can pass out of the post, knows how to make decisive moves and turn away from and pass out of double teams.

Has already dropped weight to be able to play quicker on defense.

Defense is just as much about effort as it is skill, if not more about effort. His biggest problem on defense was lack of effort. He was lazy and gave lackadaisical effort. Just get his effort up and he'll be passable at defense because he is not undersized at all.

Two legit concerns is he's not a midrange shooter, his defense.

Effort solves a lot about his defense. He'll never be Marc Gasol, but just needs to be fine on defense and in combination of his offense he'll be a solid player.

His midrange, has to be practiced. Just need to work.

Remember 1st year player is normally not a finished product.

And if you bring up that the NBA has moved away from big low post centers, the explanation is easy. There's not enough good low post centers for every team to play that way. Maybe having one gives us an advantage.
Click to expand...

I swear you're the only person in this entire thread that ever makes any type of sense.

I wanna slap someone seeing the **** yall post sometimes :lol:
Click to expand...

Slap me brah.
Click to expand...

Temecula?
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Manhattan Beach.
1st rounds on @Mamba MVP
 
Apparently Mitch is trying to trade up from 27. Or if he can't, he's trading out of 27th into next year's draft. Which I think is a mistake.

There's some depth in the late 1st round, that doesn't always exist. Just make the pick, and don't worry about the damn guaranteed salary.
 
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I'm glad to hear he's trying to trade into next year.

And I think the Dwight Howard season proved in a lot of ways how inefficient/difficult post play can be in the modern era.
 
I don't think Dwight Howard is a great post player though.

He has his moments, but it's quite frustrating watching him go to work when he plays.
 
I think his post presence is underrated. His moves and touch sucks, but he's able to do things like establish deep position, draw attention, get the defense in foul trouble, etc.
 
Underrated tho?





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So Minny is for sure going with KAT at #1?

Just wanna set my expectations for Okafor if it's true.

Would love for the Lakers to sneak somehow into #1.

Give them what they want!
 
franc said:
so whats the news around the water cooler :nerd: is it going to be okafor? cot dammit i dont want okafor. give me kat or trade for boogie. i dont trust okafor. he doesnt look like the type to take over. i hope im wrong if the lakers draft him |I

side note: white chocolate macadamia cookie >

if you think otherwise, fight me!
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KAT.

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Someone brought up a decent point.. We all know Randle & Okafor are not a perfect match.. Hell 4 months ago, before I started really looking into guys, I wanted to stay away from Okafor because of it.

Again, I'd still take KAT over Okafor due to he's as talented all around, has higher upside, and better fit with Randle.

Anywho...

But they brought up a point that Randle & Okafor may actually be a better fit on offense than we may give credit for.

How when both have no 15-17 footer?

Randle will take a bunch of guys off the dribble.

So while Randle isn't a 3 point threat, we could still spread the court having Julius float on the perimeter, get the ball, and take it to the hoop. And he's a solid enough passer that if guys collapse and block the lane, he could lob over the top into Okafor, or pass it to the corners.

Also Randle has definitely shed a bunch of pounds, so he'll be even that more dangerous off the dribble against True 4s, and stretch 4s.

If 4s dare him to take the 3 by giving him a bunch of space, take 2 dribbles in, and get up a quick shot. Make a few over a few games, and it will cause the defender to have to play closer.

But regardless, they both need to have a consistent 15-17 footer.




God I love Julius Randle
 
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Th3RealF0lkBlu3s said:
Do you really love Randle E? I don't remember who your favorite picks were last year.
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Yes.

I thought Randle was going at earliest 4th last year. Or Celtics would take him. I was elated, he fell to 7th.

I did really like Marcus Smart, but also thought Randle would have been gone. So he was my choice over Vonleh, Gordon if Randle was gone.

I can tell you my least favorite was the Bulls trading 2 first rounders for Doug McDermott.
 
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Still ingrained in my mind Mychal Thompson clamoring for the Lakers to pick McDermott with #7 last year. :lol:

Afflalo is opting out. So he's another option in free agency, I suppose.
 
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Essential1 said:
Okafor will be fine. He's one of the best low post scorers to come out of the draft since 2000.

Has a high basketball IQ, has many moves and counter moves in the post, can pass out of the post, knows how to make decisive moves and turn away from and pass out of double teams.

Has already dropped weight to be able to play quicker on defense.

Defense is just as much about effort as it is skill, if not more about effort. His biggest problem on defense was lack of effort. He was lazy and gave lackadaisical effort. Just get his effort up and he'll be passable at defense because he is not undersized at all.

Two legit concerns is he's not a midrange shooter, his defense.

Effort solves a lot about his defense. He'll never be Marc Gasol, but just needs to be fine on defense and in combination of his offense he'll be a solid player.

His midrange, has to be practiced. Just need to work.

Remember 1st year player is normally not a finished product.

And if you bring up that the NBA has moved away from big low post centers, the explanation is easy. There's not enough good low post centers for every team to play that way. Maybe having one gives us an advantage.
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e always there to say its going to be alright :smokin

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franc said:
so whats the news around the water cooler :nerd: is it going to be okafor? cot dammit i dont want okafor. give me kat or trade for boogie. i dont trust okafor. he doesnt look like the type to take over. i hope im wrong if the lakers draft him |I

side note: white chocolate macadamia cookie >

if you think otherwise, fight me!
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KAT.

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:rofl:
 
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