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Is it against the rules of Love opts out and takes less money in Cleveland on like a 1yr deal? Something just seems fishy about Cleveland and how they are moving with FA

It could be. But you'd have to prove that they promised money in the future to take a steep discount today.

But the one year deal will be a max. And he'll then sign a higher 4-5 year max that coincides with the salary cap raises.
 
The way lebron said he waiting to see what the cavs do in free agency before he signs is hilarious. Son proclaimed hes coming home cuz he missed cleveland but is gon bounce if the roster is not up to par after one year? Come on now
 
The way lebron said he waiting to see what the cavs do in free agency before he signs is hilarious. Son proclaimed hes coming home cuz he missed cleveland but is gon bounce if the roster is not up to par after one year? Come on now

What teams do you think he'll even go to? NYK with Wade to help Melo? If that's eem pausible
 
Larry Nance is really growing on me. I love his game. If he could learn how to shoot 3s, he'll have a long, solid career. Very impressive pick by Mitch.

I feel the same way about about Brown.
Voodoo is gunna lace Brown & Young with so many open 3s. I can't wait.
 
@ramonashelburne Sense I get from latest calls is Marc Gasol, Kevin Love & Millsap are staying put. Aldridge, Monroe & DJ are in play
Gasol - Grizzlies
Love - Cavs
Millsap - Hawks
Monroe - Knicks
Aldridge - Spurs/Lakers
Jordan - Clippers/Mavs/Lakers

I don't know about this. I hope they have a good contingency plan.
 
Is this the guy in rcks avy? If so he's the GOAT lakers fan. Sorry jack

I believe it's this guy.

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Why not try a trade with SAS for splitter and try to pry out a pick to dump his salary then try to sign Tobias Harris. Don't know if the Spurs would part with a pick though.
 
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Harris is like the one guy I haven't seen connected to the Lakers. Between Kobe, NY, Ant Brown, Nance and all the power forwards I don't think he fits in


Now that he'll be sliding over, where would you guys rank clarkson amongst the two guards of the league? He's in my top 8 and climbing. Potentially top 5 by season's end
 
Man. I like Clarkson but let's relax a little.

Wiggins
Harden
Beal
Thompson
Middleton
Danny Green
Wes Matthews
Ellis
DeRozen

I like Clarkson and he's definitely outperformed expectations, but to me he's nothing more than a combo gaurd off the bench. Perfect for the 6th man.

I don't get why Lakers fans overrate Clarkson's value so much. Read a tweet by some lakers "blogger" saying the lakers should explore a Clarkson for Noel trade/swap. I couldnt stop laughing at the proposal.
 
Man. I like Clarkson but let's relax a little.

Wiggins
Harden
Beal
Thompson
Middleton
Danny Green
Wes Matthews
Ellis
DeRozen

I like Clarkson and he's definitely outperformed expectations, but to me he's nothing more than a combo gaurd off the bench. Perfect for the 6th man.

I don't get why Lakers fans overrate Clarkson's value so much. Read a tweet by some lakers "blogger" saying the lakers should explore a Clarkson for Noel trade/swap. I couldnt stop laughing at the proposal.
I like Clarkson also, but he's nowhere near a top 8 SG.

At this point all we know is he's good enough to play in the nba.

Nothing more nothing less.

Let's see how he plays this year.
 
He's definitely better than derozan and green. Wiggins is listed as a 3 but he did put up similar numbers as a starter. I'd put him in the bradley beal/oladipo tier just below harden/Thompson/buckets. He's gonna have to adjust to a new role so he's got his work cut out for him.

I understand why so many are still sleep, this thread was dry bones on game days last season
 
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There's no ******* way he's as good as Dipo or Beal. This is a classic case of good numbers on a ****** team. Look, I know he played well last year but lets be realistic here.

The magic and Wizards would hang up the phone laughing if you offered Clarkson straight up for one of those players.
 
He's definitely better than derozan and green. Wiggins is listed as a 3 but he did put up similar numbers as a starter. I'd put him in the bradley beal/oladipo tier just below harden/Thompson/buckets. He's gonna have to adjust to a new role so he's got his work cut out for him.

I understand why so many are still sleep, this thread was dry bones on game days last season
I watched every game, No Asterisk way is he bradley beal.

Clarksons was good player on a HORRIBLE team. Someone has to score and assist. 

lets see how he does when we have a solid team. 
 
I can get to close to about 20 SGs / guys who can play SG, but are listed as a 3, before I get to Clarkson's name
 
I watched every game, No Asterisk way is he bradley beal.

Clarksons was good player on a HORRIBLE team. Someone has to score and assist. 

lets see how he does when we have a solid team. 


Can't you say the same thing about wiggins and dipo? What makes beal so much better than him? It's not just about stats, it's about the skills and confidence he showed to get those numbers. He's a player, for real

I can get to close to about 20 SGs / guys who can play SG, but are listed as a 3, before I get to Clarkson's name

I don't think you really believe that :lol:. And what's the point of listing 3s? might as well list 4s and 5s by that logic
 
Man. I like Clarkson but let's relax a little.

Wiggins
Harden
Beal
Thompson
Middleton
Danny Green
Wes Matthews
Ellis
DeRozen

I like Clarkson and he's definitely outperformed expectations, but to me he's nothing more than a combo gaurd off the bench. Perfect for the 6th man.

I don't get why Lakers fans overrate Clarkson's value so much. Read a tweet by some lakers "blogger" saying the lakers should explore a Clarkson for Noel trade/swap. I couldnt stop laughing at the proposal.
76ers are the biggest dumpfire so why wouldnt a team try to fleece them...

Clarkson has proved he was a solid steal in the draft. now he has to maintain that level as well as get better in other facets. 

something all the guys you listed have proven to do. 
 
I can get to close to about 20 SGs / guys who can play SG, but are listed as a 3, before I get to Clarkson's name

I don't think you really believe that :lol:. And what's the point of listing 3s? might as well list 4s and 5s by that logic


By 3s who can play as a 2... It means guys who legitimately play a bunch of minutes at the 2.


But here it goes...

Kyle Korver
Avery Bradley
Joe Johnson
Jimmy Butler
Monta Ellis
Klay Thompson
James Harden
Dwyane Wade
Khris Middleton
Andrew Wiggins (played 39% at the 3, 33% at the 2. Five of his 6 most played lineups he was at the 2)
Eric Gordon
Victor Oladipo
Wes Matthews
Danny Green
DeMar DeRozen
Terrence Ross
Bradley Beal


and for old time's sake... Kobe


Those guys are all better than Jordan Clarkson
 
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its just funny to me. I doubt Clarkson is even on the team past this season.

(Maybe we can trade him for Karl Towns or Rudy Gobert at the deadline since he's a top 5 shooting gaurd and everything)
 
Why Robert Upshaw Can Be Steal of the 2015 NBA Draft for Los Angeles Lakers
By David Murphy , Featured Columnist Jun 29, 2015

Robert Upshaw is a 7-foot, shot-blocking savant.

Dare to encroach upon his paint, and he will crush you. Try seeking refuge in jump shots, and he will rush out with his 7'5" wingspan and consume the ball on its upward trajectory like a giant pterodactyl.

But despite all of that, the former Washington Huskies center went undrafted Thursday night at Barclays Center.

That could work to the advantage of the Los Angeles Lakers, a team without a quality center currently under contract. Per Sean Deveney of Sporting News, the L.A. front office has officially passed on picking up Jordan Hill’s $9 million option for next season. The team also has until June 30 to exercise the $981,358 option on Robert Sacre—a 7-foot palooka with limited rebounding and shot-blocking skills.

Heading into summer free agency, management will attempt to lure one of the top available big men. But there will also be a chance to catch Upshaw’s shot-swatting act at the NBA Summer League in Las Vegas. The man with all of the red flags and eye-popping potential will be a member of the purple and gold squad, according to Real GM's Shams Charania.

Shams Charania @ShamsCharania
Lakers reached summer league commitments with undrafted bigs, Washington's Robert Upshaw and Arizona's Brandon Ashley, source tells RealGM.
12:56 AM - 26 Jun 2015

Could an undrafted rookie actually be the steal of the 2015 class? The 21-year-old averaged 10.9 points, 8.2 rebounds and 4.5 blocks over 19 games with the Huskies this season.

Yet, there is a reason no one chose Upshaw and his prodigious talents in the draft. It starts with getting booted from not one, but two college programs. The first was Fresno State, which dismissed the freshman prospect on August 14, 2013, for repeated violations of athletic department policy.

Upshaw got back on track by spending part of that summer at John Lucas' treatment program in Houston before enrolling at Washington, where he redshirted for his sophomore year.

With the 258-pound center in the lineup, Washington went 14-5 during the 2014-15 season. Upshaw accumulated 85 blocks and was the nation's leading rim-protector. On Nov. 27, Upshaw had eight blocks in 19 minutes off the bench in a win against San Jose State.'



Per Percy Allen of the Seattle Times, Upshaw was originally credited with seven swats in that game. But after reviewing video, "school officials awarded him with another block that pushed his total to eight and gave him the new school record."

On January 26, Upshaw was discharged for violating team rules. After he left the program, the Huskies imploded with a 2-10 death spiral to close out the season.

During an interview with Draft Express at P3 (Peak Performance Project) in Santa Barbara, California, Upshaw addressed past errors in judgement.

"At the end of the day, I've made my mistakes, and I've learned from them, and I still have the opportunity to do what I love and do what I dream. So it's all about me getting better from here, and that's all that matters," he said.

Upshaw also received support from legendary basketball giant Bill Walton, a man who has some experience with basketball demons. As SB Nation's Ricky O'Donnell wrote in May, the draft hopeful was grateful for being invited into Walton's home.

"We just talked about everything he went through," Upshaw said. "The struggle. Basketball for him, his injuries...It's been a great experience. It's really been humbling to see somebody who has established himself to have me at his house and talk to me, it's great."

But Upshaw faced another obstacle at the NBA Draft Combine in Chicago. He was flagged for a potential heart issue and held out of further training and NBA team workouts, per Jonathan Givony of Draft Express. Upshaw's agent, Bill Duffy, said at the time, "Based on the outcome of previous evaluations, we expect his full clearance."

Upshaw was subsequently cleared for team workouts, including one held by the Los Angeles Lakers.

But perhaps the weight of so many issues—of chances and second chances and too many warning bells—was simply too much. The night of June 25 arrived, and the troubled center's name wasn't called.

Meanwhile, the Lakers surprised a lot of people when they chose Ohio point guard D'Angelo Russell with their No. 2 pick rather than Duke center Jahlil Okafor. L.A. had two more picks after that, selecting Wyoming power forward Larry Nance Jr. at No. 27 and Stanford wing Anthony Brown at No. 34.

The Lakers will look to throw max-type money at an elite front court player in the coming weeks. But that particular talent pool is finite and in high demand. And while an undrafted rookie won’t be the ultimate solution, it certainly won’t hurt to eyeball Upshaw during summer league—especially given his proclivity for altering shot attempts.

The following stats for rookie big men are based on each player per 40 minutes of play during the 2014-15 season:

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With all the question marks, nobody would have reasonably expected Upshaw to be in the same conversation as the above lottery picks. Yet Scott Howard-Cooper of NBA.com cited an interesting what-if scenario from an unnamed NBA executive.

"On talent alone, if he would have stayed throughout the year, he could have crept all the way up to the middle of the first round, maybe late lottery. He was having a great year," the executive said.

Upshaw is huge, with a 9'5" standing reach. He's also surprisingly mobile, running the floor decently and finishing strong at the rim. His overall offensive game is a work in progress, but he has good interior scoring instincts with solid turnaround baby hooks as well as authoritative dunks. That said, his 43 percent conversion rate from the charity stripe is woefully lacking.

But it's on the defensive end where Upshaw could have the most impact. He's quick off his feet and has the innate sense of timing that all great rebounders and rim-protectors possess. He can man the middle, adjust in the pick-and-roll and he has the quickness to get out on shooters all the way to three-point territory.

Ry @JustRyCole
Hey Robert Upshaw. Your first two tests at summer league? Jahlil Okafor and Karl Towns.

Show your worth.
6:01 PM - 27 Jun 2015

The NBA can be a boom-or-bust business, and nowhere is the disparity in success stories more evident than the draft. This is where the few get separated from the many and where those on the fringe find themselves chasing their dreams in ever-widening circles—the minor leagues, global basketball and, all too often, nothing at all.

But while Upshaw is the epitome of a cautionary tale, he also has certain qualities that beg another chance.

He combines a massive frame with agility and the rare instinct to instantly track an incoming bogey, as if by radar, before sending it off into the sea of lights.

Upshaw could be the draft prospect who got away before ultimately landing in the Lakers' lap.


Draft Express won't let me embed his interview

 
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Andrew wiggins (barring injuries) is gunna be a HALL OF FAMER.

Please stop this.

Ok? Does that somehow change the fact that him and clarkson put up similar numbers as starters? He'll be playing next to rubio and lavine, he's a 3. And even if he was a 2, how would that prevent Clarkson from being top 8?

And E you're just naming names :lol:. Demar Derozan? Terrence Ross? Those dudes are TRASH and there's no way you'd take them over clarkson. Korver is a one trick pony who can't dribble. You wouldn't have listed him before this past year. same with gordon although I'll give him a slight edge as he did have a solid season. Joe johnson and avery bradley, for real? Green has become overrated because of the finals where he shot lights out before going ghost, he's a lesser korver. And yes I factored out OGs like wade and kobe. Someone like wes matthews is solid but clarkson has more skills and a higher ceiling and will eventually surpass him. Middleton is the kinda guy that could give clarkson fits if they matched up but overall clarkson will be better (think Kobe/Tayshaun...and no I'm not comparing him to Kobe).

edit: and now you're gonna sit there and hype Upshaw? :lol:. At least clarkson has somewhat proven himself
 
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