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Role players are what they are. You guys somehow were able to win 56 games, beat the defending champs, and gain a 3-1 lead with minimal bench production. Yet now they are the chief reason for the collapse, nah man. Not buying what you're selling.


Every game they won in the series, they had great bench production. :lol:


You gotta pull your head out your *** my man, I'm not even a Clips fan so I have 0 stake in this, learn objectivity.
 
Role players are what they are. You guys somehow were able to win 56 games, beat the defending champs, and gain a 3-1 lead with minimal bench production. Yet now they are the chief reason for the collapse, nah man. Not buying what you're selling.
Bruh, over the course of 82 games of course they are going to look good, they aren't playing elite teams night in and night out what the hell 
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On the margins man, it matters. It shows when you have to play the elite night in and night out in the postseason.
 
Which is what I keep saying but these CP3 is overrated crowd keep ignoring.

They have this black and white perspective of things that says that CP3 isn't good enough and if he was this wouldn't have happened.

When in actuality, the Clippers had JJ Redick, Austin Rivers, :smile:smokin ) etc. performing way over their heads. Had they kept their level of play up, this conversation is a bit different.

I know, I know, CP3 is overrated he's trash not all time and all that ESPN First take gibberish, but people aren't even acknowledging the other players that participated in the series :lol:  

So you were expecting guys to keep playing above what they usually produced and not the stars to play at star levels when needed? Seems legit. If JJ and Co would have played better sure they could have won. But also if Paul and Blake did more a different outcome was equally as possible.

And as Chester posted JJ was doing JJ things. Austin is a bum and Crawford is inconsistent, what changed?
 
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JJ Redick performing way over his head...

Regular season: 16.4 points (47.7%, 43.7%, 90%), 2.1 reb, 1.8 assist
Playoffs: 14.9 points (43.5%, 39.8%, 94.3%), 2.1 reb, 1.7 assist

Looks like he was performing pretty normally to me.
Are you being serious? For one he had almost a 2 point drop and his efficiency went to hell. It's right there.

Also, pull up his numbers over the past 3 games. Go ahead.

Then do the same for Austin, Jamal, and Matt (Who was 3/25 over his last 6 games)
 
So you were expecting guys to keep playing above what they usually produced and not the stars to play at star levels when needed? Seems legit. If JJ and Co would have played better sure they could have won. But also if Paul and Blake did more a different outcome was equally as possible.
I admitted that I was at fault for believing that our role players to keep playing at a level that probably was unsustainable.

I've also said Blake got scared and choked in the 4th. 

I haven't said CP3 didn't play up to par because he did. 

Could they have done more? Perhaps but you are making my point. To bring up Blake not performing well in moments of crisis and flat out ignore what our role players did in our success is flat out wrong. We literally don't make it out the first round w/o them, but when we lose you don't even acknowledge how important they were to our success.

Hell w/o austin we go down 3-1 to sas.
 
I'm not ignoring anything. The role players aren't going to and shouldn't be expected to bring it every night. They're not stars, nor getting paid to do so.

CP and Blake did not do enough, they are more capable than the other guys. This is the case for every other star in the league why not them?
 
Hey guys, let's just agree with the clippers fans here. They're right, the clippers were never legitimate contenders this year.
 
How much fun is Curry gonna have being guarded by Jason Terry in the WCF?

I'm sure the Rockets will throw some different guys at him. Ariza will probably get him some times, Brewer, Harden. But even if the Rockets do a good job on Curry, I doubt Harrison Barnes and Klay are going to go stone cold like Matt Barnes and JJ did. Dubs in 5. And that's no slight to the Rockets. I just think the Warriors are on another level right now.
 
I'm sure the Rockets will throw some different guys at him. Ariza will probably get him some times, Brewer, Harden. But even if the Rockets do a good job on Curry, I doubt Harrison Barnes and Klay are going to go stone cold like Matt Barnes and JJ did. Dubs in 5. And that's no slight to the Rockets. I just think the Warriors are on another level right now.


Who are they gonna hide Terry on?


Klay or Barnes will both kill him. :lol:


Might as well start Harden at the 1 with Brewer at the 2.
 
There's a big difference between having a consistent bench and bum *** players like Austin single handily giving your team a 3-1 series lead.

And for the record yes, Blake and CP absolutely choked in the 4th in game 6. Star players dont let that happen.
 
shoeking's argument, I agree with. "Role players pulled an okie-doke. Balled out, then *poof*"

I get that.

awwsome, though: "That bench is terrible. Period."

That I disagree with. No bench is going to be comprised of top notch players. Top notch players... are starters. That's exactly why Harden left OKC.

Bench players aren't great, but not terrible. You have to win with them, because a starting 5 with Duncan, Kobe, Vince, and Garnett as reserves isn't possible.

Let Leon Powe, Sasha Vucacic, Prigioni, Corey Brewer, Bazemore, Rivers, and the next no-name have their chance to be great, understanding that normally, they're not that great.
 
How much fun is Curry gonna have being guarded by Jason Terry in the WCF?

Man...Curry is gonna be cooking. Dude will literally feast on the Jet :lol:

If I was the Rockets i wouldn't be concerned though. No matter who you put on him you can pencil Curry in for 20-30 a night. I'd honestly put my best defender on Klay and focus on making sure Draymond, Iggy, Bogut, Barnes...didn't go off.
 
shoeking's argument, I agree with. "Role players pulled an okie-doke. Balled out, then *poof*"

I get that.

awwsome, though: "That bench is terrible. Period."

That I disagree with. No bench is going to be comprised of top notch players. Top notch players... are starters. That's exactly why Harden left OKC.

Bench players aren't great, but not terrible. You have to win with them, because a starting 5 with Duncan, Kobe, Vince, and Garnett as reserves isn't possible.

Let Leon Powe, Sasha Vucacic, Prigioni, Corey Brewer, Bazemore, Rivers, and the next no-name have their chance to be great, understanding that normally, they're not that great.
But the bench for the Clippers was terrible. By all empirical data, they had the worst bench in the league this year by far. They won 56 games because they had the best starting 5 in the league. This is a huge issue when you get into the playoffs and have to play the elite night in and night out.

So while bench players aren't great, but aren't terrible premise is true...it isn't true in this case. They absolutely were terrible, but uncharacteristically gave some much needed punch in the postseason until games 5-7 against Houston. 

All I'm saying is JJ Redick / Rivers / Matt Barnes / Crawford's downward spiral over the past 3 games had a huge effect on the outcome of that series and probably more so than CP3 "choking," which he didn't.
 
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