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post #1081 of 2814
That's numbers from 10 games. The suns got rid of him because he didn't wanna be there they have bledeoe and signed Thomas back court was to crowded. Go look at the guys numbers

I'm not gonna judge a guy intill he has time to settle in. He came in last year and we were riddled by injuries. Then he got hurt we had no rhythm last year. Going by what he did his last full season there's no reason why he dosent deserve that contract especially with the cap going up.

http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/phoenix-suns/players/goran-dragic/profile/14/24/339

That's what I'm judging him off of.

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Remember, the Suns easily got rid of him for a reason...

 

He forced his own way out, they didn't get rid of him. Waaaaay too early for the brigade. I think he'll find his way and get going, not really worried tbh

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post #1083 of 2814
I hear you guys but I just don't see him getting back to his old form from 2-3 years ago. He's on my team so of course I wan't him to kill it, but even the announcers Eric Reid and Tony Farrentino are pointing out his lackluster play this season, it's very obvious...

As far as the Suns go, they decided which player(s) would be more of a valuable asset in the long run. Eric Bledsoe missed a whole season coming from an ACL tear and still got a near max deal a year later and Isiah Thomas is a point guard that can give teams fits with his style of play. Saying Dragic left rather then the Suns "allowing" him to walk, is a one-sided comment.

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You do realize we've played 10 games right? The guy was just third team all NBA his last full season with one team. Matter a fact he just had 16 and 9 the first night his family finally moved into town laugh.gif what else you expect?

He's played more than 10 games for us period. And i haven't seen why his contact looks the way it does yet. I doubt that I ever will

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I think what a lot of us see is a player getting $85 mil over 5 years $17 mil a season and he's only averaging:

11 points a game
4 assists a game
25% at the 3 point line
3 TO's a game

Hell! Chalmers did those numbers on his off nights and he only gets $4.5 mil a year. Matter of fact, since Chalmers has been on the Grizz he's averaging 18points a game and had 29 points in a winning effort against the Thunder two nights ago.

You don't want a player with a contract like Dragic to impede the signings of; a) Whiteside, b) Durant, c) Winslow in 3 years.

Remember, the Suns easily got rid of him for a reason...

I was with you till you mentioned Durant. Let that dream go lol

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post #1086 of 2814
^^ brotha it's happening laugh.gif

Remember people said the samething about a Wade-Bosh-LeBron trio...
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Those 3 were friends from the same draft class 

 

KD has talked **** in public about Bosh and Wade :lol 

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Durant isn't coming. He's either staying in OKC or going to LA.
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post #1089 of 2814
I see Russ and KD parting ways as well
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^^ brotha it's happening laugh.gif

Remember people said the samething about a Wade-Bosh-LeBron trio...

 

its an unfounded DREAM that like 1 person on air said was possible and people ran with it. when has kd has EVER expressed interest in miami. i cant remember a single time. its like in highschool when someone starts a rumor and its passed around so much, people start believing its a fact

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https://streamable.com/1c72

 

Followed the pass and blocked the lob, top ten player in this league idc idc idc

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post #1092 of 2814
Whiteside is definitely proving to be more than a flukem
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That's numbers from 10 games. The suns got rid of him because he didn't wanna be there they have bledeoe and signed Thomas back court was to crowded. Go look at the guys numbers

I'm not gonna judge a guy intill he has time to settle in. He came in last year and we were riddled by injuries. Then he got hurt we had no rhythm last year. Going by what he did his last full season there's no reason why he dosent deserve that contract especially with the cap going up.

http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/phoenix-suns/players/goran-dragic/profile/14/24/339

That's what I'm judging him off of.

 

But I believe he had that season when Bledsoe was out for the year with the ACL and he was allowed to be ball dominant. I believe the following season (beginning of last year) when Bledsoe came back is when his production started to decline.

 

I just find it hard to see him playing on that 3rd all-NBA player he was if he's playing with Wade. 

 

I could be off on my timeline but that's my assessment. From the games I've watched, Tyler looks more efficient than Dragic

post #1095 of 2814
That's exactly why I'm not gonna bash him yet. He has to learn how to play with Wade. We had so many injuries last year nobody had the chance to gel together. I'll give it time before anything

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post #1096 of 2814
For all the Dragic talk, I'm not worried at all. The man ain't have no lovin' from his wife in over 3 months. eek.gif

He and the team will figure it out. I actually thought Dragic played damn good ball the first half against the Timberwolves, so the potential is there. He just needs to have a complete game from beginning to end.

The silver lining in all of this is that he's getting his normal shots... he just needs to make them. As fans, I know we all want instant gratification... but it's a process. The fact that we are winning games with Dragic playing mediocre ball is a testament to this teams talent.

Give him 9 more games, then you can criticize...

Nevertheless, t'was a good team win tonight. Still inconsistent at times, but they did a lot better making free throws and limiting the turnovers. Plus we saw good Amare' tonight. I can't complain. wink.gif
post #1097 of 2814
I'm confident they'll start to gel better as the season goes on. Vet-heavy team, things will work out.

Whiteside is the truth, I hope we do whatever we need to to keep him this offseason.
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For all the Dragic talk, I'm not worried at all. The man ain't have no lovin' from his wife in over 3 months. eek.gif

He and the team will figure it out. I actually thought Dragic played damn good ball the first half against the Timberwolves, so the potential is there. He just needs to have a complete game from beginning to end.

The silver lining in all of this is that he's getting his normal shots... he just needs to make them. As fans, I know we all want instant gratification... but it's a process. The fact that we are winning games with Dragic playing mediocre ball is a testament to this teams talent.

Give him 9 more games, then you can criticize...

Nevertheless, t'was a good team win tonight. Still inconsistent at times, but they did a lot better making free throws and limiting the turnovers. Plus we saw good Amare' tonight. I can't complain. wink.gif


9 more games? Well tonight is 1 of 10. Let's look at his numbers.

Dragic - 31 mins, 4-11 36%, 9 points mean.gif

Tyler J - 25 mins, 6-8 75%, 19 points

It's not looking good for him. But yeah I was pleased to see Amare get some burn tonight and he looked good too!

Oh yeah, Josh McRoberts 17mins ZERO POINTS. mean.gif
post #1099 of 2814
Put it this way if dragic isn't producing the way we need him to were not winning anything or making a deep push this year. He has to play how he played in Phoenix for us to make a push.

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9 more games? Well tonight is 1 of 10. Let's look at his numbers.

Dragic - 31 mins, 4-11 36%, 9 points mean.gif

Tyler J - 25 mins, 6-8 75%, 19 points

It's not looking good for him. But yeah I was pleased to see Amare get some burn tonight and he looked good too!

Oh yeah, Josh McRoberts 17mins ZERO POINTS. mean.gif

 

see.... this is what im *sigh* mcrob has robbed us since he been on the team. dude gotta play to expectation when healthy. same for dragic.

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For all the Dragic talk, I'm not worried at all. The man ain't have no lovin' from his wife in over 3 months. eek.gif

He and the team will figure it out. I actually thought Dragic played damn good ball the first half against the Timberwolves, so the potential is there. He just needs to have a complete game from beginning to end.

The silver lining in all of this is that he's getting his normal shots... he just needs to make them. As fans, I know we all want instant gratification... but it's a process. The fact that we are winning games with Dragic playing mediocre ball is a testament to this teams talent.

Give him 9 more games, then you can criticize...

Nevertheless, t'was a good team win tonight. Still inconsistent at times, but they did a lot better making free throws and limiting the turnovers. Plus we saw good Amare' tonight. I can't complain. wink.gif

 

Doubt we win that game if Boogie is playing, which is disturbing..

 

I think the team would be better suited if we had more a floor general as our PG (Rondo 8o) rather than a combo guard like Dragic that looks to score first rather than setting up his teammates.

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Doubt we win that game if Boogie is playing, which is disturbing..

 

I think the team would be better suited if we had more a floor general as our PG (Rondo 8o) rather than a combo guard like Dragic that looks to score first rather than setting up his teammates.

 

wed be better suited if dudes could score when the ball was placed in their hands consistently. if we could bring everyone up to like at least 40% ACTUAL shooting (not counting layups and dunks etc etc) we'd be cool. but dudes scared to shoot, or NEED to be scared to shoot. we looking good. but itl get exposed in post season. we gotta put in work in practice to tighten up. yall saying dragic can bounce back, lets hope so. cuz the brightest lights on the team are hands down Tyler and Whiteside. and that technically isn't good news when theres a team full of other stars and vets....

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Put it this way if dragic isn't producing the way we need him to were not winning anything or making a deep push this year. He has to play how he played in Phoenix for us to make a push.

The harsh, brutal, and factual reality right here. This is what it all boils down to whether you do or do not support Goran. He has to be exceptional point blank period.

With that said, I have no concern nor worry that he'll eventually figure things out. We will be just fine
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I'd like to think that Dragic will come good now that he's reunited with his fam but yea he hasn't lived up to that massive contract yet.

Dirty Sprite seems like he consistently outplays him on a nightly basis laugh.gif
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I'd like to think that Dragic will come good now that he's reunited with his fam but yea he hasn't lived up to that massive contract yet.

Dirty Sprite seems like he consistently outplays him on a nightly basis laugh.gif

 

Dirty Sprite  :lol

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I wish Cousins would've played, probably would have got more Whiteside. Him playing only 18 mins is strangely absurd but what ev's

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I wish Cousins would've played, probably would have got more Whiteside. Him playing only 18 mins is strangely absurd but what ev's

The same ol same ol with Hassan, early foul trouble hence the reduced minutes smh
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Doubt we win that game if Boogie is playing, which is disturbing..

I think the team would be better suited if we had more a floor general as our PG (Rondo nerd.gif ) rather than a combo guard like Dragic that looks to score first rather than setting up his teammates.

Let's not get into what if scenarios... Had Boogie played it would introduce a whole new set of variables and changed the whole outlook of that game. Sure the Heat could've lost, but It could've been an even bigger blowout had he played. The Kings made their run by playing small ball. And to keep it all the way funky...Outside of Belinelli going off in the 4th quarter, the Heat dominated the Kings even with Whiteside only playing 18 minutes.

And Rondo, for all the good that he does, is a guy who needs the ball waaaay more than Dragic. He's not a guy willing to sacrifice his game to win. Because he didn't get his way, he went out like a punk in Dallas... plus he can't shoot to save his life. sick.gif


But to be honest, I feel like guys are just complaining to just complain at this point. Do y'all even remember 2010?? Bosh was THAT guy everyone was criticizing and saying was garbage. They completely ignored homie and called the squad the "Big 2"... Dudes were even calling dude Bosh Spice.

It took a 30 or so games before that 2010 squad found it's chemistry. Now 5 years and 2 championships later we're doing the same thing to Dragic and a to a lesser extent McRoberts.

Why are we judging every single player by how many points they are scoring? Have we learned anything from watching the Warriors or even teams like the Spurs? Guys like McRoberts are never never gonna fill up the stat sheet, but he will go out there and make winning plays. Can he be better... yes, but you can say that for the whole team.

11 games in, the team is 7-4. This Heat are trending up. This team is full of talented veterans and young guys. Dragic has shown he can be great, so why worry? Great players figure it out. Enjoy the process fellas.


On to the 76ers... #LetsGoHeat
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Mcbob hardly ever looks to score, nor does he play much. The record says 7-4 but we haven't really beat anyone. Said this before....this is the sweet spot of the schedule. We really can't afford to lose ANY games, beginning of the season or not. Let us remember.....

 

Jan 8- Feb 5.

16 games: 14 on the road, 2 at home. :x

The 3 games after that stretch are: Clippers, Spurs, @Hawks. 

 

Great contributions from Tyler Johnson :hat

Amare looks like he has something left in the tank 8o 

 

Hard to gauge what we can get from wade on any given night |I

 

Gonna give goran a little more time to get it together.

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