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post #1831 of 2814
Our young Center is coming around offensively
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We really need to run plays for Whiteside like the clippers do for Jordan
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post #1833 of 2814

We make offense look like making cement

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post #1834 of 2814
This is why we need to go after kd
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post #1835 of 2814
.....shaking....my.....head.....
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post #1836 of 2814
What goes through this dudes damn head sometimes?
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:lol

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It just went from 7 to almost 20 in about 1 actual game minute

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post #1839 of 2814
The heat are currently throwing Whiteside under the bus in the presser. I'm starting to get the feeling the heat really don't want Whiteside here. There's just no solidarity there. I just don't know what we're doing anymore. At all

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post #1840 of 2814
Yup lets blame everyone else for Whiteside's immaturity.
post #1841 of 2814
There's a reason why the kings let go of Whiteside...
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post #1843 of 2814
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Yup lets blame everyone else for Whiteside's immaturity.

has nothing to do with what i said tho. i said, theyre throwing him under the bus... which they were. i said i get the feeling we really dont want him here. none of that alludes to whether hes immature or guilty etc etc. nor have i blamed anyone else. i swear, ur always commenting on what i say but never actually reading it lol. its like u look for keywords then form a statement.

 

i expect teammates to protect each other. they rarely if ever protect whiteside. when askd about the foul "sometimes we have no idea what hes thinking" and "thats not a basketball play" etc etc is NOT what i expect teammates to respond with. its like they alienate him. treat him like chalmers lol.

 

 

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There's a reason why the kings let go of Whiteside...

hes gotten better. it was a stupid foul, but one we see in nearly every game down low. its blown out of proportion. whitesides main frustration seems to be with spo always benching him. ill say this foul will only adds more gas to the "bench whiteside" fire for spo... but its still questionable why hes riding bench SO often in the clutch.

 

whitesides future with us is definitely shaky. and i dont like that. who are we supposed to replace him with? WHY would u replace a center who locks down the paint like that and still has a lot of room for growth?

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post #1844 of 2814

I believe that I said it before, and I will re-state it again: WHITESIDE IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE CORNERSTONE OF THIS FRANCHISE. You can't teach size, you can only coach it. He has some mental lapses from time to time, but in order to be successful for not just this season, but the foreseeable future, Miami needs Whiteside. Plus some small pieces to put around him. And why is McBob getting scrub minutes now, I truly want to see him and Amare work on some chemistry.

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Some of you will defend Whiteside until he the FO gives him the max and he turns out to be Dwight Howard: an incredible athlete/talent that is injury prone and is a net negative to the team. Shaq had attitude problems too, but Whitesides ceiling is no where near shaqs prime (or the end of his prime while he was in Miami).

Wade only has 2-3 years left. Riley won't be here after another 4-5 years. We need to win now, not wait for Whiteside to grow up. Like I said, we should of traded him right after the other night when he got a triple double with blocks.

TEK will disagree with me but Whitesides actions are proving you wrong. Live with it.
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post #1846 of 2814

I think everything is coming to a boiling point, for Hassan and the Org as a whole. Hassan isn't the most mature or ready pro but the stature put on him hasn't been totally fair. Him mounting his frustration, keeping to himself and ultimately doing stuff like this is not the answer either but we're getting back the back end of a once mighty Heat "Culture"... Whereas' we can't even deal with players anymore. Hassan isn't a problem but we've put him in an impossible situation and especially for someone of his limited capacity and the gist is Heat expect him to conform or we'll just drop him/ There needs to be more communication on his end off and on the court but there's also a need for more accountability on every level. Everyone gets away with poor play, bad net ratings, defense or what have you but Hassan is killed for it and suppose to act like it isn't happening... We alienated him and set him up for failure. Since the start of the season... 

 

Not making any excuses for him being a bonehead, it's just my perspective of the way we've took to him this season.

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btw... our offense is actually worse this year at this time around than last year :x

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I think everything is coming to a boiling point, for Hassan and the Org as a whole. Hassan isn't the most mature or ready pro but the stature put on him hasn't been totally fair. Him mounting his frustration, keeping to himself and ultimately doing stuff like this is not the answer either but we're getting back the back end of a once mighty Heat "Culture"... Whereas' we can't even deal with players anymore. Hassan isn't a problem but we've put him in an impossible situation and especially for someone of his limited capacity and the gist is Heat expect him to conform or we'll just drop him/ There needs to be more communication on his end off and on the court but there's also a need for more accountability on every level. Everyone gets away with poor play, bad net ratings, defense or what have you but Hassan is killed for it and suppose to act like it isn't happening... We alienated him and set him up for failure. Since the start of the season... 

Not making any excuses for him being a bonehead, it's just my perspective of the way we've took to him this season.

I agree with you to an extent. Spos decisions in the 4th quarters have been beyond questionable this season (and previous seasons). Dwade is playing some good basketball overall but new acquisitions like Dragic and McBob are not playing to even their baseline expectations. But I don't think we have set him up for failure at all. As a matter of fact, we have set him up for success. It's impossible to say how he would have turned out had another team given him a shot before the heat, but the heat organization put him in a wonderful position to get an enormous payday this offseason, whether it is with the heat or someone else. Last night was a classic example of how this dude can not change his attitude. When you do stuff like that you are puttting yourself before the team and that has everything to do with your mentality towards playing team basketball. He's not the leader of this team and even though he just might be the most athletic/talented player, I can't see him being a leader on any team in the NBA. Unless you (not specifically you dirty reseller) consider Dwight a leader...
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post #1851 of 2814
Call me crazy.... But I wouldn't mind taking Dwight at this point
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Call me crazy.... But I wouldn't mind taking Dwight at this point

Crazy.
post #1853 of 2814
Yup I expect it laugh.gif
It just seems to me that no matter what now, whiteside is not coming back next year.
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C-R-A-Z-Y :lol

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one of the best pictures ive ever seen on the internet , about to be the wallpaper on my phone , srs 

 

 

and trade whiteside for dwight please....dwight in the 1st quarter of playoffs >>> 

 

 

we shoulda sent whiteside and justise to sac for DMC ....

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post #1856 of 2814

DMC is not coming. let that dream go. kings never getting rid of their franchise player. not even realistic. some of u really dont understand what ur saynig. if we trade whiteside, whos defending the paint? the shooters we trade him for? do we suddenly depend on mcrob and bosh for  paint protection?

 

i wont say we put him in position to fail, but we certainly arent helping him. we have 0 plays for him, which is a waste. if its not dwyane or dragic giving him a pass off the pick in roll from inside the 3... hes sitting down low waiting for a rebound so he can get it and do it himself. thats a terrible misuse of talent and length. and we handicap him by always benching him in the 4th. we shoot ourselves in the foot cuz once whiteside sits in the 4th, its open season in the paint and we pay for it.

 

so of course hes getting frustrated. and yes he does bonehead moves... everyone does except for our vets. whiteside gets crucified for it. and even if he needs to mature... u think hes gonna do it from the bench? if u want to iron out kinks, put him in the game and give him some on the job training. nobody ever learned how to play the game from sitting on the sidelines. i rather he have a season of learning and mentally improving, and learning NOT to make those mistakes... than bench him all the time for years cuz soon as he messes up we snatch him out the game.

 

bottom line is we're misusing his talent. and if we lose him... we've completely jacked up our future as a team. completely. the people we spent big bucks on are NOT panning out. we acquired whiteside for 6 packs of trident gum and a parking pass. hes clearly producing. AND... hes producing at a level unheard of in decades in terms of defense. his potential is sky high and all u have to do is teach him to remain calm. what is so hard to get here?

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post #1857 of 2814
Whiteside is 26. He came.out of college 6 years ago. When is he gonna mature? When he's 30?

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post #1858 of 2814
Whiteside and birdman for pau? What yall think
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post #1859 of 2814
Man they're still talking Whiteside for Howard. That is a dumb move.
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Whos talking?
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