Transgender Woman Leading Contest for Menshealth Cover

Should a Transgender Woman be able to Represent Men on the Cover of Mens Health?

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GeminiStar93 said:
Boris said:
Opinion-based statements aren't usually considered "facts". So much for "straight forward English". 
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Your forceful contrarian opinion is corny.

Stop acting like throughout your life that you haven't heard a bunch of stories of transgender people getting assaulted because they weren't truthful about their gender.

I was semi joking before about Jerry Springer but there has been whole episodes dedicated to this very topic on way more serious talk shows. And it always comes down to transgender people not being honest cause they know the reaction that they'll get.

Movies, TV shows, and characters have been dedicated to this topic. And art imitates life.

Stop acting like this isn't a thing. Unless you were literally born this year I don't believe that you've never heard of this and that it's all misguided opinions to you and not fact. Like I said, it's corny.
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The guy never said it wasn't a thing. The guy had a problem with the statement "it happens all the time".
 
Sure there is a stat on the number of murders that occurs annually because of secretly transgender partners

Most trans don't see themselves as 3rd gender but female or male... so I don't think it would be a stretch to say that some probably don't mention it or forget to.

The man well "woman" in that Taboo show on whatever channel that was, proclaimed after his transformation that he would first try his hand at a relationship with a straight male. In fact, I don't think that many trans look for relationships with other trans... sounds a little oppressing, if I am thinking from their POV.

Dudes, chicks be coming into Vietnam with no less than 2 G's and coming out whole different people... well socially...

Can't lie, **** creeps me out
 
GeminiStar93 said:
 
Boris said:
Opinion-based statements aren't usually considered "facts". So much for "straight forward English". 
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Your forceful contrarian opinion is corny.

Stop acting like throughout your life that you haven't heard a bunch of stories of transgender people getting assaulted because they weren't truthful about their gender.

I was semi joking before about Jerry Springer but there has been whole episodes dedicated to this very topic on way more serious talk shows. And it always comes down to transgender people not being honest cause they know the reaction that they'll get.

Movies, TV shows, and characters have been dedicated to this topic. And art imitates life.

Stop acting like this isn't a thing. Unless you were literally born this year I don't believe that you've never heard of this and that it's all misguided opinions to you and not fact. Like I said, it's corny.
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Forceful? All I did was ask what the original statement was based on. Make snide remarks all you want, but it doesn't help answer my question. I didn't say that I've never heard of this. 
 
LIONBLOOD said:
I'm not even playing, if we are not allowed to say other groups of people are disgusting on here I be dammed if NT let's you get away with it.
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LIONBLOOD said:
I was under the impression discrimination meant treating a group of people unfairly or differently based on a characteristic rather than as an individual. You thinking its OK to call them disgusting is a form of discrimination. In NT you can't overtly call any race disgusting.

In this case it's just your opinion right?
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I was joking because people find your posts on NT annoying nothing more than a joke so calm down
 
LIONBLOOD said:
I was under the impression discrimination meant treating a group of people unfairly or differently based on a characteristic rather than as an individual. You thinking its OK to call them disgusting is a form of discrimination. In NT you can't overtly call any race disgusting.

In this case it's just your opinion right?
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Discrimination is a prejudicial action or treatment.  You can't stop someone from finding someone else disgusting.  Forum rules are a different matter though.  If NT doesn't want people announcing they find others disgusting then they shouldn't be doing that on here.

I also think there is a difference between a person saying they find something disgusting, and going up to someone and telling them that they are disgusting.  One is explaining how they feel, the other is mean't to be an ***.
 
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LIONBLOOD said:
 
If I called black people disgusting, you would find a problem with it. Stop playing stupid. If I said Asian people all smell you would find a problem with it. You are a hypocrite and that's ok, it's human nature.

Hypocrisy is imbedded in the very definition of prejudice and discrimination.

Forum rules are a different matter huh? So   You called a whole group of people disgusting, if I did the same about black people overtly I would get banned. That IS DISCRIMINATION.

Discrimination and prejudice does not only imply action, it can be a thought process, it can be verbal, it can be an idea. You don't have to hang a transsexual person to be considered prejudiced. Your words and sentiments in this thread are prejudiced and discriminatory.
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I never called anyone disgusting you are mixing me up with someone else.
 
Boris said:
I guess this flew over your head, but I'm interested in your statement here. This is the only part of your post that I quoted a while back, so I don't know why you took the time to explain what it means to be transgender. I repeatedly asked for the facts and you only now provided one concrete example. But, It's me that has the kindergarten* level comprehension? K.

"It happens ALL THE TIME" is a vague statement. What is "ALL THE TIME"? Where did you get that from? Feel free to explain what you based this on.
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How is it vague? "All the time" is an idiom that is synonymous with frequently or habitually.
Its also synonymous with continuously or without interruption, (fig.) at all times, and(lit.) throughout a period of time.
But if I say "He whistles all the time." I pretty sure you wouldnt think I was saying that he whistles continuously without end.

People commonly use the phrase "All the time" to mean frequently, which is the context in which I used it in.
But maybe you would feel better if I said "it happens frequently."

As far as proof of it happening frequently goes, a simple google search will yield a multitude of results from articles, to news stories, to blogs, to youtube videos, on incidents involving transgender womens' dealings with straight men. Its happens frequently enough that it is a major topic of discussion within the transgender community.

Everything from why a transgender woman shouldnt have to share their "medical history" with the men they meet, to the dangers associated with revealing that you were born a man. In fact one of the most recent narratives I have come across is how a straight man is not gay for sleeping with a transgender woman.

Im not making this stuff up. These are conversations they are having amongst themselves in their own words.
But then again I dont know why you are asking me to prove something that is pretty much common knowledge and easily verifiable.
 
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JaysRcrak said:
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My only problem with the transgendered women and men is when they seek the affection of straight men or women without being truthful about their original gender.
It happens ALL THE TIME. Mainly because they themselves are looking to be accepted as the man or woman they transitioned to.
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Maybe if I bold my statement like that your kindergarden level comprehension will understand.
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I guess this flew over your head, but I'm interested in your statement here. This is the only part of your post that I quoted a while back, so I don't know why you took the time to explain what it means to be transgender. I repeatedly asked for the facts and you only now provided one concrete example. But, It's me that has the kindergarten* level comprehension? K.

"It happens ALL THE TIME" is a vague statement. What is "ALL THE TIME"? Where did you get that from? Feel free to explain what you based  this on.
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"All the time" isn't a literal statement. He's saying it happens often enough to be addressed as an issue, which everyone seems to be in agreement with.

If I say I go to Chipotle all the time, that doesn't mean I'm actually eating fine Mexican cuisine every minute of my life. It's an expression.
 
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so can i call that girl disgusting? cause thats what i meant...someone posted a picture and that was my reaction.  

what difference was my comment than all the other pictures of women people post then talk **** about? 
 
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YRWB said:
 
That's not close to cover worthy.

The guy currently in second place:

Wounded in Iraq and is a beast with one leg.  It's really not even close and a complete joke.
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So yea, the woman that is in first place is nothing that but a publicity stunt
 
YRWB said:
LIONBLOOD said:
 


If I called black people disgusting, you would find a problem with it. Stop playing stupid. If I said Asian people all smell you would find a problem with it. You are a hypocrite and that's ok, it's human nature.


Hypocrisy is imbedded in the very definition of prejudice and discrimination.


Forum rules are a different matter huh? So   You called a whole group of people disgusting, if I did the same about black people overtly I would get banned. That IS DISCRIMINATION.


Discrimination and prejudice does not only imply action, it can be a thought process, it can be verbal, it can be an idea. You don't have to hang a transsexual person to be considered prejudiced. Your words and sentiments in this thread are prejudiced and discriminatory.
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I never called anyone disgusting you are mixing me up with someone else.
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He dropped the bait so he could go on a tangent about how being born with high melanin is the same as mutilating your body, you were just the only one who responded. He even called a gender a race somewhere up there if I'm not mistaken. Dude is too predictable.
 
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DCAllAmerican said:
YRWB said:
 
That's not close to cover worthy.


The guy currently in second place:
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Wounded in Iraq and is a beast with one leg.  It's really not even close and a complete joke.
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So yea, the woman that is in first place is nothing that but a publicity stunt
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These things are rarely ever about who deserves it though.

I'm sure Men's Health looking at this knowing it's about who on the cover will sell the most copies. Since print is a dying media.
 
JaysRcrak said:
How is it vague? "All the time" is an idiom that is synonymous with frequently or habitually.
Its also synonymous with continuously or without interruption, (fig.) at all times, and(lit.) throughout a period of time.
But if I say "He whistles all the time." I pretty sure you wouldnt think I was saying that he whistles continuously without end.

People commonly use the phrase "All the time" to mean frequently, which is the context in which I used it in.
But maybe you would feel better if I said "it happens frequently."

As far as proof of it happening frequently goes, a simple google search will yield a multitude of results from articles, to news stories, to blogs, to youtube videos, on incidents involving transgender womens' dealings with straight men. Its happens frequently enough that it is a major topic of discussion within the transgender community.

Everything from why a transgender woman shouldnt have to share their "medical history" with the men they meet, to the dangers associated with revealing that you were born a man. In fact one of the most recent narratives I have come across is how a straight man is not gay for sleeping with a transgender woman.

Im not making this stuff up. These are conversations they are having amongst themselves in their own words.
But then again I dont know why you are asking me to prove something that is pretty much common knowledge and easily verifiable.
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I would feel better if you quantified what you mean by "all the time" or "frequently" so that I at least understand what you perceive as "all the time" in this context. I have no idea whether you're exaggerating, poorly estimating, or telling the truth. Of the estimated 700,000 individuals that identify as transgender, what percentage are capable of concealing their original gender? Then, what percentage of those individuals actually do hide their original gender? 
 
Pretty clear she was an ugly or at the least average chick

Rarely do I ever see a female that wants to be a trans man that was banging as a female to begin with.
 
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DonRe said:
You know why this is not important because it is deconstructing an institution that is racist/sexist. Not specifically MenHealth but anything that the "Man" holds dear should be broken down and infected.
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But people are crazy when they think there's an agenda?
 
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