AJ XXX (30)

It would be great if they could keep these under wraps up until the week before release and have a big event to unveil them. I'd expect the event to be in July tho.

It's barely any information but during an interview this weekend at the Quai 54 tourney Tinker let slip that Mark Smith had to go to Asia to the factory because they were having a difficult time with creating a woven upper with the fly weave material and some other material. I'm guessing this is for the XX. Here's the excerpt from the interview I'm talking about. 

Speaking on pushing the bounds of innovation in sneakers and the manufacturing process.

Mark Smith: That’s what’s fun about it. In the end, they appreciate it too.

Tinker Hatfield : In the end they do. They might not appreciate it at first.

MS: No, not at first. I just came back from the factory and they’re not appreciating it yet! But they understand why.

TH: He was just at the factory in Asia to talk to them about spinning the weave stuff to combine it with…

MS: Woah!

TH: I nearly slipped up there! But it was not going well, so he went to Italy.

bdrake823 said:

 
It's barely any information but during an interview this weekend at the Quai 54 tourney Tinker let slip that Mark Smith had to go to Asia to the factory because they were having a difficult time with creating a woven upper with the fly weave material and some other material. I'm guessing this is for the XX. Here's the excerpt from the interview I'm talking about. 

Speaking on pushing the bounds of innovation in sneakers and the manufacturing process.

Mark Smith: That’s what’s fun about it. In the end, they appreciate it too.

Tinker Hatfield : In the end they do. They might not appreciate it at first.

MS: No, not at first. I just came back from the factory and they’re not appreciating it yet! But they understand why.

TH: He was just at the factory in Asia to talk to them about spinning the weave stuff to combine it with…

MS: Woah!

TH: I nearly slipped up there! But it was not going well, so he went to Italy.

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Any guesses on what they're mixing the weave with?

MJ's pubes?

JB needs to employ young designer/s
If not because of the retro, they would have been dead long time ago imo
No disrespect to Tinker but his time is up..
Let him watch and mentor the youngins

tragic bronson said:

Any guesses on what they're mixing the weave with?

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Could be the "textile" material that I seen mentioned in the catalog description. Who knows.

evilimperial said:

JB needs to employ young designer/s
If not because of the retro, they would have been dead long time ago imo
No disrespect to Tinker but his time is up..
Let him watch and mentor the youngins

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Real talk, aesthetics have taken the back burner on all ball shoes, there isn't one model that legit looks good imo in casual wear pics, tinker is doin a great job at still making arguably the most comfortable basketball shoes on the market season after season

According to a tinker slip up about the AJ 30 in an interview it looks like the 30 will have an updated woven material mixed with something?

Link below from wear testers aka night wing

http://weartesters.com/tinker-hatfield-almost-leaked-air-jordan-xxx-30-details/

I wish they would actually make a nice model. Like how they used to when they dropped 1-17.

I feel like they just make the new shoes just for basket ball. The retros you can actually rock with clothes

What if they weaved Kevlar into the upper. Like picture a Kevlar 'Flightplate' on the sole that starts splitting into the upper and weaving into the flyweave where the resin on the Kevlar flightplate ends.

faceMizzy said:

I wish they would actually make a nice model. Like how they used to when they dropped 1-17.

I feel like they just make the new shoes just for basket ball. The retros you can actually rock with clothes

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The new Jordan signature model will always, and has always been a basket ball shoe first. Design comes second. Even MJ is quoted, especially in the link above, as saying he wants the new signature to be about basketball first. The reason why people have such an affinity towards the first signature shoes is the design not technology. Now that technology advances faster and faster and is more accessible faster and faster, the need for actual design is less and less. Look at the XX9. There really isn't much design to it since its so tech heavy. What design there is is all done on a computer and processed through a machine to give you the couple different models. If JB says they want a huge jumpman on the side of the shoe. Boom. Done. Easy. If JB say they want elephant print on the side and toe. Done. Easy. Now look at the first signature shoes I - 10. What was the major new technology/innovation? There really wasn't one. All those shoes used nike air and different types of leather. That's it. Because of the lack of real innovation or an option to have it, the designers, mainly Tinker, had to actually use his imagination and creativity with the limited leather options( nubuck, durabuck, full grain leather ) and limited technology to DESIGN a shoe. Why was the Jordan III innovative? At the time it was the first basketball shoe to show the nike air cushioning. Not much to talk about. The design and use of the leather is what is really special: beautiful floater leather and the elephant print. I think if someone played in any model I through X, all models would play the same. The XI is where technology really started to inform design at its best. It was the first signature shoe to use a carbon fiber shank plate and use patent leather along with the ballistic nylon. By today's standards, not really innovative, but at the time CRAZY! And the XI still stands the test of time. That's how you know the shoe had such a great design! Now technology, in my opinion, has completely overwhelmed the design. Now its so easy to make or design a shoe. Tinker now uses an ipad to draw the next sig. The XX9 upper is completely made by a machine along with any "design" is put on/into the fabric. Where is the imagination and creativity? I think JB, Tinker, and Mark Smith need to reevaluate their whole design process. Were at a point where the they're putting so much effort into the technology, that the design comes secondary, uninspired and with that, unappealing to the consumer. This why everyone still goes so hard on retros! As fans of shoes, design and art, I think we all should step back and spend some time thinking about how technology and design inform one another and how their synthesis affects a product. Its something the JB designers certainly haven't done in a while.

tonytobacco said:

MJ's pubes?

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Dog

Dudes would line up to buy it too

paulprince3730 said:

you sound slow

all jordans were made with performance at the forefront

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Stop insulting him. Hes right. Nike/jordan brand has gotten lazy design and performance wise. Point blank.

Boring designs with cheap construction and materials and alot of people still buy so they will continue to make the sig line a pile of generic crap

Gonna laugh when jordan brand removes zoom/air completely and sell it to people that nothing is better. And people will still swear its the best performance shoe around

NobleKane said:

Dog

Dudes would line up to buy it too

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That XXX hype lol

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JB need to knock it off already and focus on remastering the III\s before a XXX release.

23shoefanatic said:

JB need to knock it off already and focus on remastering the III\s before a XXX release.

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Let's just hope this release wraps up the legacy series and they don't release a 31. Highly doubt it but just hoping they stop.

If they want to keep making new balling shoes they should not be air Jordan.

23shoefanatic said:

JB need to knock it off already and focus on remastering the III\s before a XXX release.

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Nah.

They will not stop making air Jordans so get that out your minds now but tinker needs to retire and let someone new get there hands on experience in designing the new jays

XX9 is a GOAT ball shoe and it held it's own as far as looks go on court. Non stop compliments when I pull them out.

They could have been a top 5 J all time if they just utilized the tech more. If we got more color ways like the BHM, Photo Reels, UNC PE or even Hares, people would be singing a different tune.

Photo reel XX9 = GOAT in terms of the XX9 alone

XX9 was one of the best basketball shoes I played in. Did not care for all color way variations. Hope XXX sticks to 3-4 color ways max.

I suspect one of the improvements for the XXX will be zoom or some form of air in the heel. MJ said he hasn't played in them. Don't blame him. No heel zoom no gracias

Are you blind?!!!... XXX´s will be the MAG´s...

Olympus said:

XX9 is a GOAT ball shoe and it held it's own as far as looks go on court. Non stop compliments when I pull them out.

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Were they the jumbo jumpman version or the regular jumpman version?

The jumbo jumpman with the cut off leg and the air jordan 2010's glory hole on the side is perhaps two of the worst jordan designs ever