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I feel like everyone is missing the point in hating the never Jordan models. They want them to look amazing off court, but that isn't the point of the line... They're made to be excellent basketball shoes, and for the past couple years they have been. The problem is, tech has advanced to the point that to make top level performance shoe you can't also have it be appealing off court. The leather uppers and air units of 1990 that were acceptable performance and looked good back then wouldn't be good enough on court today. Jordan puts flight plate and woven uppers on shoes because their focus is performance, but people simply don't like wearing that stuff off court. They tried to get a mix with the 2011, but while in my opinion they nailed the look, they were lousy performers.

Then, you say, why can the lebrons look good and play good? The lebrons don't attempt to push the envelope on court, and the jordans do. The lebrons might look better, but they aren't good enough on court for lebron to wear them. The XX8/9 were some of the best performance models every.

Personally, I'd rather get a great basketball shoe than a lifestyle shoe
 
tragic bronson said:
I feel like everyone is missing the point in hating the never Jordan models. They want them to look amazing off court, but that isn't the point of the line... They're made to be excellent basketball shoes, and for the past couple years they have been. The problem is, tech has advanced to the point that to make top level performance shoe you can't also have it be appealing off court. The leather uppers and air units of 1990 that were acceptable performance and looked good back then wouldn't be good enough on court today. Jordan puts flight plate and woven uppers on shoes because their focus is performance, but people simply don't like wearing that stuff off court. They tried to get a mix with the 2011, but while in my opinion they nailed the look, they were lousy performers.

Then, you say, why can the lebrons look good and play good? The lebrons don't attempt to push the envelope on court, and the jordans do. The lebrons might look better, but they aren't good enough on court for lebron to wear them. The XX8/9 were some of the best performance models every.

Personally, I'd rather get a great basketball shoe than a lifestyle shoe
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I think I agree and disagree with you with these statements. The Lebron 8 and 10 performed great for the players they were intended to target(larger bodies). They seemed to have dropped the ball with the 11 and 12 with adjusting the cushioning system for him. MJ and LeBron are two different type of players as to why Lebron is still searching for that happy median where his sig line can be used by all types of players. People of all shapes and sizes were captavated by Jordan and his command, but the shoes were designed to fit his needs. That's why they sold they way they did. MJ'S shoes always pushed technology and design. But they've lost an edge over the years. I too believed they got some of it back with the 2011 but cushioning setup was over thought. They should have used the same full length zoom with it double stacked in the back and maybe even if the fore foot and it would have performed a lot better. Point blank the brand had been watering down the brand over the years with poor materials, bad designs, and higher price points due to the increase of demand in the community. It's been great for business despite however much we as enthusiasts compliance about the state of the brand and now they've done what they need to justify these new price points. Jordans have always stood for quality design and performance and I felt that happen with the 2011 to an extent. The XX9 was great in design but I feel they didn't do all they could with it outside of limited releases. Just get back to dope designs that we can floss on the hardwood and in the club!
 
you can't have one foot in heaven and the other in hell. Jordans we're designed for basketball not "lifestyle". so you can't really complain about not rockin it with a fit. to each his own...all that matters REALLY is you get the shoes you want and they get there money! simple.
 
xivNxx8 said:
you can't have one foot in heaven and the other in hell. Jordans we're designed for basketball not "lifestyle". so you can't really complain about not rockin it with a fit. to each his own...all that matters REALLY is you get the shoes you want and they get there money! simple.
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Why can't you we did for 13 or 14 years before he retired didn't we? Design doesn't have to be compromised for performance and that has been shown hence the love and sale of retros.
 
wearing a basketball shoe off court is a perogative. any sport specific shoe for that matter. it doesn't take away from the fact that the shoes was designed for a specific purpose. your utilizing it for other intents and purposes shouldn't be a strike against its designers or design.
 
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xivNxx8 said:
wearing a basketball shoe off court is a perogative. any sport specific shoe for that matter. it doesn't take away from the fact that the shoes was designed for a specific purpose. your utilizing it for other intents and purposes shouldn't be a strike against its designers or design.
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Completely true and I'm not arguing that point. I'm just saying in my opinion that in recent years the signature line has suffered from lack of design and as a result a lack of interest in the most current. Shoes of the past that helped build the line didn't do that is all I'm saying my man. I'm not promoting casual wear over its intended purpose. Just stating that I would like to see them get back doing both is all..
 
They should have stopped at 14, everything after except the 18 and 23 sucked. They have the XX9 at my local Nike factory store
 
The last yearly air jordan I copped was a few pairs and made a bread nikeid colorway of the jordan 2011
 
I feel you. but what I've learned in my 30+ years on earth is that the old cliché "you don't know what you got till it's gone" is something every one of us at one time will say or feel. basically what I'm saying is no matter how much we miss those "times" or "years" in our past we must accept that times change much like the people who live in those times and unfortunately we can't get it back.
 
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^^ ok, that's a bit deep for a line of shoes that most haven't liked in over a decade.

Either way, I don't like most Jordan models, but my favorites are 11 12 13 17 18 & 29
 
xivNxx8 said:
I feel you. but what I've learned in my 30+ years on earth is that the old cliché "you don't know what you got till it's gone" is something every one of us at one time will say or feel. basically what I'm saying is no matter how much we miss those "times" or "years" in our past we must accept that times change much like the people who live in those times and unfortunately we can't get it back.
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I can literally break down my life into AJ releases through the 80's and 90's.  The III, IV, and V got me through elementary school.  The IX's and X's through middle school.

Multiple XI, XII, and XIII  colorways in high school.  And the first pairs I ever spent my own money on was my senior year and it was the laney XIV and the all black XV.

Sprinkled between them were Penny's, Grant Hills, Ewings and whatever else was big at the time.  But Jordans always held me down.    

BUT since my senior year in high school I have never purchased a new pair of AJ signature releases that weren't retros of sneakers I already owned.   I'm not sure if it's me getting older or if it's Nike losing their touch.   (or it could be that I know longer have my parents buying them lol)
 
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I think the "sneaker community" is divided into 3 parts. one part consist of 30+ year olds that are buying shoes we grew up with plus the occasional "that's a dope looking shoe" new purchase. then you have those 20-29 group that are similar to the older group in the sense they buy because of nostalgia but are quicker to buy something more to date, reasonable in price and can be worn with an outfit. then you have your 19 and under who buy cause it's what's in or it looks fresh and I just like the shoe don't care about and don't know the history I just want it group.
 
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Everything after the XX3 has been hot garbage IMO.

I look to see what is coming but it's always a disappointment not anything I'd consider buying especially the price point the force upon us.
 
it's a generational thing really. i just get irritated with individuals who speak on shoes that existed back when they were still in diapers. like your opinion really counts for something. I feel like some who think it should have stopped at 14 or 23 for sure but it's a money game and I understand that at my age so if people buy why stop. It wouldn't suprise me if Mike died and the line continued.
 
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after seeing all that they have done (or haven't done, if u ask me) since the xx3, i see no reason to have any type of high expectations at least as far as design goes. they have all been unpleasing to the eye, aesthetically since xx3. performance may be another story, but looks have resided in the toilet.
 
Ok, all Jordans since xx3 have been hideous right? And really before the xx3 you had to go back to the 18 for anything decent...

Here's the solution and what they SHOULDVE done to get passed that and to commemorate the line:

A sneaker's most important part is the sole, everything else comes after, right?

Design an all new, clean lined and simple sole for the XXX. I'm talking based after the 1 design. Simple. Street-wearable but an on-court beast. (please no zoom-air, I dont need tendonitis thx)

Take the flyweave aspect from the XX9, make a flyknit upper version (kind of like what they did with the airmax's) of each Bulls worn Air Jordan. 1-14.

It sounds like a lot but F it, go big. That's what Jordan is about. Dedicate January for the Flyweave 1's, Feb the 2's, March 3's and so on. Christmas gets the 13/last shot pack or something to finish it up.

Just futurize the past.
 
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pimpala50 said:
I'm not evn sure they'd continue to humiliate themselves with releasing signature trash year after year, but hey we shall see....
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With all do respect bro, Jordans alwaz come with the newest tech, for whats the best to ball in. I realize the silhouette/design of Jordans hasnt been "Heat" if you will but, I honestly think it has alot to do with we dont see how they look on M.J., he alwaz made them look awesome while wearing on court. Cant tellya how many times i thought the newest Jordan was ugly until i saw M.J. rockin, then "Boom" im coppin!..shoes,colorways, memories.
Thats why P.E.s are ruining todays sneaker game, cause we dont get what there wearing in a memorable game. IMO
 
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