AGAIN? - Baltimore Man Dies From Injuries During Arrest

Mr Marcus said:

If you're going to talk about Floyd PLEASE address Manny voting against gay/women rights in his country. He also refuse contraceptives usage for poor filipino women. Fool don't even want them wearing condoms 

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RIP sleazyy said:

Mr Marcus said:

If you're going to talk about Floyd PLEASE address Manny voting against gay/women rights in his country. He also refuse contraceptives usage for poor filipino women. Fool don't even want them wearing condoms 

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This 1000000 times.

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Mr Marcus said:

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LIONBLOOD said:

Yea I mean, the average IQ on these threads will probably put me somewhere at the top, that's not really saying much. It's not like we're arguing about the principles of mechanical engineering over here. These threads probably do lower my IQ significantly.

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Chopper said:

RIP sleazyy said:

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If you're going to talk about Floyd PLEASE address Manny voting against gay/women rights in his country. He also refuse contraceptives usage for poor filipino women. Fool don't even want them wearing condoms 

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This 1000000 times.

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Chopper said:

 We're comparing illegally beating women up, to standard Republican & Christian social stances (which I don't agree with at all). 

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NooEra said:

cant stand Beadle

Props to Floyd for putting that bird in her place

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Mr Marcus said:

who compared anything? I just find it funny none of yall have spoken out against that too

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Chopper said:

 

Mr Marcus said:

who compared anything? I just find it funny none of yall have spoken out against that too

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Ok, here I go. Manny is a blind moron with a completely *** backwards social stance, as are most republicans and born again christians.

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Mr Marcus said:

Chopper said:

 

Mr Marcus said:

who compared anything? I just find it funny none of yall have spoken out against that too

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Ok, here I go. Manny is a blind moron with a completely *** backwards social stance, as are most republicans and born again christians.

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the sincerity just isn't there my Caucasian brother 

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Chopper said:

 

Mr Marcus said:

Chopper said:

 

Mr Marcus said:

who compared anything? I just find it funny none of yall have spoken out against that too

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Ok, here I go. Manny is a blind moron with a completely *** backwards social stance, as are most republicans and born again christians.

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the sincerity just isn't there my Caucasian brother 

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 You want to make a thread about born again christians and republicans, trust me I'll be all over it. 

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Edshoecator said:

You're known to have a low iq in these threads so you not getting the point doesn't surprise me, kittyblood

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LIONBLOOD said:

OK.....when did I ever say this wasn't true. In fact that's the point I've made in the last few posts.  But you're on your naturally defensive, clouded brain nonsense where you focus on race so much you can't even see when someone is agreeing with you.

I've said several times in this thread that as a black man you're judged more stringently rich or poor, however as a rich black man who makes money for a corporation you get away with being a terrible person.





We only want to talk about equality when it's specific to our agendas....there are multiple layers to this story other than race. On NT women and homosexuals do not have a voice. Even the poor do not have a voice.



Walk on home boy.

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Mr Marcus said:

 

 

you don't have to do alllll that 

can we move on from floyd because I was honestly bashing the racist folks. Folks whose dislike is solely because of domestic violence are cool with me 

personally he is a piece of **** for that but I can't knock his boxing and business/promotion 

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Chopper said:

Just maybe , it's due to the circumstances...?

CB worked over one of the biggest names in music right before the Grammys.

RR knocked his fiancé out cold, didn't appear to give ANY damns, and it was all caught on camera.

Since then, DV has become mainstream in the national media, Floyd just served a recent bid for it, and he's all over the media promoting his fight.

This is not a conspiracy. Charlie Scheen, Dino Cicarelli, that Russian goalie in the NHL last season, and on and on caught hella negative publicity for that ****.

Y'all dudes are blind.

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Records show worries over Baltimore officer's mental health

BALTIMORE — The top Baltimore city police officer suspended following Freddie Gray's death was hospitalized in April 2012 following concerns about his mental health, according to records from a sheriff's department and court obtained by The Associated Press.

Worries about Lt. Brian Rice's stability — originally raised by a fellow Baltimore police officer who is the mother of his child — led deputies to confiscate his guns and contact high-ranking police officials, the report says.

Rice, who initially pursued Gray on a Baltimore street when Gray fled after Rice made eye contact April 12, declared three years ago that he "could not continue to go on like this" and threatened to commit an act that was censored in the public version of a report obtained by the AP from the Carroll County, Maryland, Sheriff's Office. Rice lived in the county, about 35 miles northwest of Baltimore.

Deputies reported that Rice appeared "normal and soft spoken" and said he had been seeking "sympathy and attention." But citing "credible information," the deputies confiscated both his official and personal guns, called his commanding officer and transported Rice to the Carroll Hospital Center. The weapons included his .40-caliber police pistol, a 9 mm handgun, an AK-47-style rifle, a .22-caliber rifle and two shotguns.

It was not immediately clear how long Rice was at the hospital or whether he went on his own accord. Rice declined to speak with the AP or discuss allegations in a subsequent court filing that he had behaved in erratic or threatening ways toward the mother of his child or her then-husband. When the AP visited Rice's home last week and left a note requesting an interview, Rice called the sheriff's department to report the visit as trespassing. Karen McAleer, the mother of his son, also declined to speak with the AP.

The events described in the 2012 report provided the basis for one of at least two administrative suspensions for Rice in 2012 and 2013, a person familiar with the police department staff said. This person spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss confidential personnel matters.

The incidents described in the sheriff's report and court records involving Rice's personal problems portray allegations of concerns about self-control and judgment, as Baltimore police and the Justice Department investigate the injuries that Gray, 25, sustained in police custody. Police have said Gray ran after making eye contact with Rice. After a brief chase, Gray was arrested "without force or incident," according to a report filled out by one of the officers, though witness video shows officers kneeling around Gray while he screams. After being transported in the back of a police van, Gray was found unable to talk or breathe and died one week later from spinal trauma.

It also was not immediately clear whether or when all of Rice's guns were returned. The sheriff's report said the weapons "should be returned back to owner pending determination of the (censored)." But Rice was accused in June 2012 of removing a semi-automatic handgun from the trunk of his personal vehicle and threatening McAleer, according to a complaint filed in 2013. A police report about that June 2012 incident omitted any reference to allegations that Rice brandished a weapon but noted that officers who responded spent hours searching for Rice over concerns for his welfare.

Baltimore police were made aware of worries that Rice might pose a risk to himself or others, according to the April 2012 sheriff's report. Sheriff's deputies spoke to a police commander for the city's western district, where Rice worked, who initially requested that deputies not fax the report with details about their experiences with Rice because he would make arrangements to pick up a copy of the report and Rice's service weapon. The official, whose name is twice misspelled, appeared to be James Handley, a police major who now heads Baltimore police's property division.

A police spokesman, Capt. John Kowalczyk, said he could not comment on matters that might involve an officer's personnel file. Speaking generally of department procedure, Kowalczyk said that the department had overhauled its procedures for dealing with discipline and employees who need help with personal matters since the arrival of Police Commissioner Anthony Batts in September 2012.

"These are tremendous changes to how we hold people accountable," Kowalczyk said. He credited the changes for what he said were recent declines in complaints about officer misconduct and an increase in the percentage of disciplinary actions sustained by the police department's trial board.

An attorney representing Rice, Michael Davey, did not respond Thursday to phone calls from AP asking to discuss the sheriff's report about Rice's hospitalization or gun seizures. Earlier in the week, he dismissed the significance of Rice also being placed on administrative leave as a result of a complaint in January 2013 by McAleer's then-husband, Andrew, a former Baltimore firefighter who said Rice threatened him and asked for a court protective order. Those threat claims were initially reported by The Guardian newspaper.

Andrew McAleer, who did not respond to a note left at his last known address in court records, wrote to a judge that Rice had been transported in the earlier incident "to a local hospital for a mental health evaluation." A judge granted the protective order but allowed it to expire after one week.

"People file peace orders all the time," Davey said. "The only thing I'd comment on is, any issues similar to this had nothing to do with his ability to perform his duties as a Baltimore police officer."

The Carroll County Sheriff's Office did not explain why it censored parts of the report it provided to the AP. Maryland law allows law enforcement officials to protect details about a person's medical or psychological condition in public records.

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psk2310 said:

White folks were very angry that black folks were taking what they thought was "their" jobs & housing. It came to a head specifically when GIs game home from the war to see desegregation so they formed angry mobs to destroy & burn down black homes.

Here's a list of some of the major race riots just to name a few.

 

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Wells Fargo Is Baltimore’s Real Looter

Wall Street created the nightmare economic context of the unrest in Baltimore. You don’t need to have watched The Wire, one of the greatest dramas in American television history, to know that Baltimore has some rough neighborhoods. But things got a lot worse when the subprime mortgage crisis blew up in 2008. The wealth destroyed by some of the biggest banks foisting predatory loans on unsuspecting, unprotected consumers was staggering, and triggered the Great Recession. Baltimore was hit particularly hard, and around the Baltimore area, the black community was specifically and intentionally targeted for these predatory loans. The resulting implosion dialed the black community’s wealth back to Segregation-era levels.

The subprime mortgage fraud was the biggest blow to the black community’s wealth since Civil Rights. About a dozen banks were charged with foisting bad loans onto black people. Wells Fargo was one of the worst offenders in the Baltimore area. According to testimony by Beth Jacobs, formerly one of Wells Fargo’s top loan officers, reported in the New York Times, the practice was overtly racist,

“Wells Fargo, Ms. Jacobson said in an interview, saw the black community as fertile ground for subprime mortgages, as working-class blacks were hungry to be a part of the nation’s home-owning mania. Loan officers, she said, pushed customers who could have qualified for prime loans into subprime mortgages. Another loan officer stated in an affidavit filed last week that employees had referred to blacks as ‘mud people’ and to subprime lending as ‘ghetto loans.'”

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Jacobson described how the banks would organize the black community to streamline the effort of preying on them on a large scale,

“’Wells Fargo mortgage had an emerging-markets unit that specifically targeted black churches, because it figured church leaders had a lot of influence and could convince congregants to take out subprime loans.’”

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The state of Maryland, which had been home to some of the nation’s wealthiest predominantly black counties prior to the crash, saw the second most foreclosures in the country, after Florida.

Blacks were more likely than whites, and women were more likely than men, to be sold a predatory loan. Depending on income bracket, black women were as much as five times more likely than white men to receive a subprime loan.

Despite popular misconception, many of the people who were sold these loans did qualify for conventional loans,

“…in 2/3rd (66%) cases, people with high FICA scores, who would have qualified for conventional loans at market rates, were diverted towards subprime loans because of their profitability.”

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Throughout the 1990s, subprime loans were aggressively marketed in black communities, with subprime comprising roughly a quarter of all refinancing loans nationwide, but over half of refinancing loans in black neighborhoods. In Baltimore, under 600 subprime loans were issued in 1993, and over 8,000 in 1998. By the end of the ’90s, subprime loans accounted for 60% of black homeowners’ foreclosures in the Baltimore area. It only got worse. According to ThinkProgress,

“More than half of Baltimore properties subject to foreclosure on a Wells Fargo loan between 2005 and 2008 are vacant, 71 percent of them in predominantly black neighborhoods. Baltimore still had the ninth-largest number of foreclosures in the country last year [2014] at 5,200.”

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As of 2012, there were roughly 47,000 vacant homes in Baltimore, and their concentration correlates almost perfectly with the concentration of black folks living Baltimore.

American financial institutions used the black community’s purchasing power against them, especially among black women and even among borrowers who had the means to buy a conventional loan. This is particularly true in Baltimore. Tens of thousands of black families were ruined. The overtly racist housing practices of the mid 20th Century were replaced by racism by banks in housing practice. The results are staggering. The Great Recession wiped out a lot of wealth in every community in America. But the experience for black families was dramatically worse than that of white families. In 2005, the median white household wealth was $134,992. By 2009, it had declined to $113,149. In 2005, the median black household wealth was $12,124. By 2009 it had declined to $5,677. While white wealth declined by 16%, black wealth declined by 53%. Over the course of the Great Recession, median black wealth declined from being 1/11th of median white wealth to being 1/20th. Following the Great Recession, the average white family has 20 times the purchasing power of the average black family.

Wall Street cynically, disgustingly, used the black community’s striving for the American Dream against them. After centuries of bondage, a century of second class citizenship, and half a century beyond Civil Rights, many black families had finally made it. And Wells Fargo crushed them.

This is not meant to diminish the roles of overly aggressive and violent policing in Baltimore, the legitimate grievance over the inexplicable deaths of Freddie Gray and other unarmed black men at the hands of police, or the media’s misrepresentations of the protests. The current unrest in Baltimore happens in a broader economic context. Due to slavery and segregation, black people have only really been able to accumulate any wealth since the late 1960s. Wall Street wiped out virtually all of black America’s aggregate wealth accumulated since Civil Rights. The bankers who did this not only avoided any jail time, but rewarded themselves with taxpayer-funded bonuses. The institutions of American power which should have protected black people, who ostensibly gained full citizenship in the 1960s, from this predation, have made it very clear that they do not care. Their answer to the decimation of four decades of black wealth is a tighter chokehold of policing.

So remember, the rioting that you see in Baltimore is nothing compared to the homes destroyed by Wall Street. Wells Fargo destroyed whole neighborhoods. Wells Fargo violently tore Baltimore’s black community away from their first taste of real independent success and drove many back into a level of iniquity that should not be possible for a community of citizens supposedly enjoying the full benefits of American citizenship. Wells Fargo is Baltimore’s real looter. The real “thugs” in Baltimore wear suits.

Perhaps what you see in the news is not merely a paroxysm of rage over the death of a single man, but an entire community awakening to the horror that Civil Rights was a mirage, that American institutions will never defend them as they do whites, that they will never know true financial security. Martin Luther King Jr. urged his followers to “refuse to believe that the bank of justice is bankrupt.” The vast majority of peaceful protesters in Baltimore may be trying to tell America that not only the bank of justice, but the bank itself, is bankrupt.

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