AGAIN? - Baltimore Man Dies From Injuries During Arrest

 The police have said that any Black person that steps off of the stoop at city hall will be arrested #Baltimore #BlueLivesMatter

The sister of #TyroneWest is here protesting

No media is allowed to talk to the #BlueLivesMatter protestors either

The police have now come to watch the Black protestors #Baltimore # 

He's been on the #BlueLivesMatter side all day 

#BlueLivesMatter protestors are taunting black protestors here in #Baltimore 

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MR HIGHNESS said:

Where's Rusty? Dude just ran off and didn't answer my questions. He could have at least provided a source for his points.

Many of you don't ever answer my questions, just try to target some things that are "Provable to be wrong" then insult me man.

Management, where's your response about my link of listed countries with most murder rates? Where's the European countries in that list? If you want to talk about intelligence, I mean, I haven't even started on the IQ levels (statistics), the graduation rates (statistics), etc. Which plays a factor in that too and can also belong in the culture category. I don't know much about the middle east from all the wars that's happening over there right now, so I won't mention it especially ISIS, since that's a different topic.

Rolaholic said:

And how about Japan,South Korea,Taiwan,Hong Kong and Singapore? Not teary eyed one bit, just pitying some of your views which seem to be deeply rooted in ignorance.

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You're just trying to fit in. You know some of those Asian countries are racist right? Miss Japan was half black, and criticized for not being Japanese enough.

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Fontaine said:

What's crazy of this thread... Highness thoughts are a minority.

Out side of NT... He's in the majority

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trueprada said:

He's been on the #BlueLivesMatter side all day 

#BlueLivesMatter protestors are taunting black protestors here in #Baltimore 
 

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AEA18 said:

I would ask those #Bluelivesmatter supporters how many unarmed people have killed cops?

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Time out, there are two sides of that majority, the side with reason, and the side with hate (racists). I'm the side with reason. But many of us go by statistics. These punk racist whites always perceive the black man as a thug because of shootings, murder news, "hoods", majority black populated cities such as Detroit, the killings in Africa as well as their countries status, violence in some rap music, slapping "girls", etc.

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These punk cops ain't the problem, nation-wide violence is the TRUE problem. If we could all march and spread the world to end violence on humanity, we could be doing things. But nope, we just complain about racism and just let our own black brothers kill other black brothers and brown brothers kill other brown brothers. This just angers the white racist community and scares them, hence why they're so quick to pull that trigger. I'm not an evil man like you guys perceive me to me, I'm just a colored man with reason, I look at statistics before I go to any conclusion. You guys have to basically insult me half of the time on your posts, and that basically proves my point, some of you guys have to attack me online. I never disrespected anybody in this thread. I try to reason, and be professional here as I can with good composure. Yet I get called, "dense". People still don't get it.

It's the same black violence that got my favorite rappers 2Pac and Biggie killed as well as other important black figures I look up to. Look at this link: https://www.yahoo.com/tv/s/lil-wayne-tour-bus-shooting-leads-gang-charges-185926961.html Lil Wayne could have been next on that list too. And I like some of his music.

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Methodical Management said:

Time out, there are two sides of that majority, the side with reason, and the side with hate (racists). I'm the side with reason. But many of us go by statistics. These punk racist whites always perceive the black man as a thug because of shootings, murder news, "hoods", majority black populated cities such as Detroit, the killings in Africa as well as their countries status, violence in some rap music, slapping "girls", etc.

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You're only fooling yourself on that one.  The "racist whites [who] always perceive the black man as a thug because of shootings, murder news, "hoods", majority black populated cities such as Detroit, the killings in Africa as well as their countries status, violence in some rap music, slapping "girls", etc." could cite "statistics" in the same way you do (vaguely, selectively, and inaccurately) to make the same basic point: "White people are superior."  

The two different camps are the old school racists who believe in biological inferiority and the neoliberal racists who believe in cultural inferiority.  Favoring the latter hardly qualifies as siding with "reason." 

In the end, you've been pretty blatant and overt in asserting White supremacist ideology - trotting out all the old racist canards in the process.  (Violence/criminality, intelligence, work ethic...)  The process through which you've attempted to support these vulgar, antiquated stereotypes is hardly scientific.


You start with the judgment/conclusion first and then engage in lazy ex post facto hypothesizing to try and reverse engineer an argument that could support your preconceived notions about people of color.  


You claim to go by statistics, but, as we've seen, you've failed to articulate any specific definition for "good values," let alone demonstrated that White people, globally, all share the same "good values."  As I've explained, when you get into the business of inferring values from results, then positing those values as the cause of said results, you're engaging in circular reasoning.  

This flawed line of thinking is nothing more than a Social Darwinist tautology, which defines fitness by outcome.  Who’s fit?  Someone who succeeds economically.  Who’s unfit?  Someone who fails to succeed economically.  Such reasoning doesn't define "fitness" independent of results, it simply describes and justifies those results.  


The minute you've been asked to supply us with some sort of testable hypothesis, everything falls to pieces.  


I find it particularly ironic that, in the process of attempting to defend White Americans against stereotyping, you've attempted to claim that White people globally all share the same "superior" culture.  As "proof", you've tried to cherry pick the case of Germany as an example of a country purportedly pulling itself up by the bootstraps - like "if they can rebuild after World War II, certainly African nations should have no problem recovering from the imperialism."  Such a comparison is impossibly simplistic and woefully ignorant.  

You're foisting European nations - which you're crudely and transparently attempting to present as a proxy for "White nations" -  as the pinnacle of civilization... based on what, exactly?  Their own unique technological innovations?  How many of those would be possible without written language?  Without agriculture?  You do realize that all human beings can trace their roots back to sub-Saharan Africa, correct?  European civilizations did not develop within a bubble.  The guns used by imperialist invaders would not function without gunpowder (or metallurgy).  "American culture" is not synonymous with "White culture."  Neither culture nor technology develops within a silo.  

Though we're all ultimately related, you've chosen to isolate human societies at one arbitrary point in time to claim superiority for one group... because of what?  Because European nations, on the whole, have greater material wealth than the African nations they once colonized?


When confronted by the economic "superiority" of Qatar or the UAE, you give those nations no credit for "values" (stereotypically sputtering out "ISIS" in the process) and attribute everything to natural resources.  If resources, not values, are responsible for Qatar's relative success, why not the United States, or all those nations who not only had their own resources to extract, but systematically pillaged the resources of others?  All that may qualify as "ancient history" in your mind, but ignoring history is like assuming Paris Hilton has a better work ethic than you do due to her inherited wealth.  


The truth of the matter is that you have no data whatsoever to support the notion that White people collectively share "superior values."  That you've threatened to drag "IQ levels" into this suggests that you're barely different from the sorts of "punk racist" folks you claim to despise.  Whereas they might argue that White people are "naturally smarter," you apparently have the audacity to suggest that people of color are somehow less intelligent "by choice," completely disregarding the role of social capital, priming, biases in standardized testing, disparities in the education system, and every other possible intervening factor.  

You can cite anecdotal Alger Hiss stories to prove that "anyone can succeed" if you like, but this would only undermine your own argument.  The success of an exceptional person no more disproves the persistence of racism than the launch of a satellite disproves gravity.  It's the amount of force required to achieve "escape velocity" that's at issue here.  

We all know that privileged slackers can and do attain material success in our society.  You're defining their "values" based on their success, and that is backwards beyond belief.  



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Methodical Management said:

Because I never attacked anyone here.

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When you're suggesting that people of color are somehow culturally inferior, you're attacking an awful lot of people. 

Your position is inherently disrespectful and insulting. 

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MR HIGHNESS said:

By no means do I intend to disrespect anyone. I went by how society is today, and analyzed why European countries are 1st world. It's not always about how they've been dominating other countries and stealing, because I know that's not what they all nor what they EXACTLY did. Many countries are still rich with natural resources. Europeans established ways and capitalized on what they have and implemented to help their society. They traded with other nations. This doesn't mean a culture is superior over the others. They just applied a more better concept of economic business for a successful country. Africa has plenty of natural resources, oil, metal and diamonds. But the majority of their leaders only care for themselves with little regard to their own people. If I disrespected people, then statistics is racist and disrespectful.

In some parts of Asia, they overfish until the certain fish is depleted but never realized the mistake until it's gone. Didn't capitalize on it.
 

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Methodical Management said:

 
You're only fooling yourself on that one.  The "racist whites [who] always perceive the black man as a thug because of shootings, murder news, "hoods", majority black populated cities such as Detroit, the killings in Africa as well as their countries status, violence in some rap music, slapping "girls", etc." could cite "statistics" in the same way you do (vaguely, selectively, and inaccurately) to make the same basic point: "White people are superior."  

The two different camps are the old school racists who believe in biological inferiority and the neoliberal racists who believe in cultural inferiority.  Favoring the latter hardly qualifies as siding with "reason." 

In the end, you've been pretty blatant and overt in asserting White supremacist ideology - trotting out all the old racist canards in the process.  (Violence/criminality, intelligence, work ethic...)  The process through which you've attempted to support these vulgar, antiquated stereotypes is hardly scientific.

You start with the judgment/conclusion first and then engage in lazy ex post facto hypothesizing to try and reverse engineer an argument that could support your preconceived notions about people of color.  

You claim to go by statistics, but, as we've seen, you've failed to articulate any specific definition for "good values," let alone demonstrated that White people, globally, all share the same "good values."  As I've explained, when you get into the business of inferring values from results, then positing those values as the cause of said results, you're engaging in circular reasoning.  

This flawed line of thinking is nothing more than a Social Darwinist tautology, which defines fitness by outcome.  Who’s fit?  Someone who succeeds economically.  Who’s unfit?  Someone who fails to succeed economically.  Such reasoning doesn't define "fitness" independent of results, it simply describes and justifies those results.  

The minute you've been asked to supply us with some sort of testable hypothesis, everything falls to pieces.  

I find it particularly ironic that, in the process of attempting to defend White Americans against stereotyping, you've attempted to claim that White people globally all share the same "superior" culture.  As "proof", you've tried to cherry pick the case of Germany as an example of a country purportedly pulling itself up by the bootstraps - like "if they can rebuild after World War II, certainly African nations should have no problem recovering from the imperialism."  Such a comparison is impossibly simplistic and woefully ignorant.  

You're foisting European nations - which you're crudely and transparently attempting to present as a proxy for "White nations" -  as the pinnacle of civilization... based on what, exactly?  Their own unique technological innovations?  How many of those would be possible without written language?  Without agriculture?  You do realize that all human beings can trace their roots back to sub-Saharan Africa, correct?  European civilizations did not develop within a bubble.  The guns used by imperialist invaders would not function without gunpowder (or metallurgy).  "American culture" is not synonymous with "White culture."  Neither culture nor technology develops within a silo.  

Though we're all ultimately related, you've chosen to isolate human societies at one arbitrary point in time to claim superiority for one group... because of what?  Because European nations, on the whole, have greater material wealth than the African nations they once colonized?

When confronted by the economic "superiority" of Qatar or the UAE, you give those nations no credit for "values" (stereotypically sputtering out "ISIS" in the process) and attribute everything to natural resources.  If resources, not values, are responsible for Qatar's relative success, why not the United States, or all those nations who not only had their own resources to extract, but systematically pillaged the resources of others?  All that may qualify as "ancient history" in your mind, but ignoring history is like assuming Paris Hilton has a better work ethic than you do due to her inherited wealth.  

The truth of the matter is that you have no data whatsoever to support the notion that White people collectively share "superior values."  That you've threatened to drag "IQ levels" into this suggests that you're barely different from the sorts of "punk racist" folks you claim to despise.  Whereas they might argue that White people are "naturally smarter," you apparently have the audacity to suggest that people of color are somehow less intelligent "by choice," completely disregarding the role of social capital, priming, biases in standardized testing, disparities in the education system, and every other possible intervening factor.  

You can cite anecdotal Alger Hiss stories to prove that "anyone can succeed" if you like, but this would only undermine your own argument.  The success of an exceptional person no more disproves the persistence of racism than the launch of a satellite disproves gravity.  It's the amount of force required to achieve "escape velocity" that's at issue here.  

We all know that privileged slackers can and do attain material success in our society.  You're defining their "values" based on their success, and that is backwards beyond belief.  

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If I disrespected people, then statistics is racist and disrespectful.

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More than HALF of all prisoners currently serving federal sentences of one year or longer were convicted of drug offenses.  

According to the National Household Survey on Drug Abuse (2000), White teenagers are over 33% more likely to have sold illegal drugs than their Black counterparts.  

Usage rates for marijuana are approximately the same regardless of race.  However, according to this same survey, White students are SEVEN TIMES more likely to use cocaine and heroin.  Before you say "well, that's just self-report survey data," bear in mind that White youth visit hospital emergency rooms due to illegal drug use three times  more than Black youth.

Yet, despite this, THREE QUARTERS of those imprisoned for drug crimes are Black or Latino.  

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MR HIGHNESS said:

By no means do I intend to disrespect anyone. I went by how society is today, and analyzed why European countries are 1st world. It's not always about how they've been dominating other countries and stealing, because I know that's not what they all nor what they EXACTLY did. Many countries are still rich with natural resources. Europeans established ways and capitalized on what they have and implemented to help their society. They traded with other nations. This doesn't mean a culture is superior over the others. They just applied a more better concept of economic business for a successful country. Africa has plenty of natural resources, oil, metal and diamonds. But the majority of their leaders only care for themselves with little regard to their own people. If I disrespected people, then statistics is racist and disrespectful.


In some parts of Asia, they overfish until the certain fish is depleted but never realized the mistake until it's gone. Didn't capitalize on it.

 

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What kind of ignorance are you on. Horrible generalizations after another. And to really state that many European countries didn't steal and plunder other nations to get ahead is truly preposterous. 

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More than HALF of all prisoners currently serving federal sentences of one year or longer were convicted of drug offenses.  



According to the National Household Survey on Drug Abuse (2000), White teenagers are over 33% more likely to have sold illegal drugs than their Black counterparts.  

Usage rates for marijuana are approximately the same regardless of race.  However, according to this same survey, White students are SEVEN TIMES more likely to use cocaine and heroin.  Before you say "well, that's just self-report survey data," bear in mind that White youth visit hospital emergency rooms due to illegal drug use three times more than Black youth.

Yet, despite this, THREE QUARTERS of those imprisoned for drug crimes are Black or Latino.  

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MR HIGHNESS said:

You do realize that when the slavery era came to be, some African leaders sold black slaves to Europeans right? And you know Africans weren't the first slaves in Europe right? Also you know that a black man was the first to own a black slave and that some black families owned black slaves in the U.S right? It's documented from the last time I researched. Ever heard of Irish slaves?

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MR HIGHNESS said:

I underlined the part you likely didn't read. I'm implying that some white nations succeeded without stealing. And you are also generalizing too. Ironically. Because not all European/white populated nations stole and plunder other nations. You do realize that when the slavery era came to be, some African leaders sold black slaves to Europeans right? And you know Africans weren't the first slaves in Europe right? Also you know that a black man was the first to own a black slave and that some black families owned black slaves in the U.S right? It's documented from the last time I researched. Ever heard of Irish slaves?

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gamble said:

Why is anyone even wasting time arguing with this fool?

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gamble said:

Why is anyone even wasting time arguing with this fool?

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gamble said:

Why is anyone even wasting time arguing with this fool?

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gamble said:

Why is anyone even wasting time arguing with this fool?

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gamble said:

Why is anyone even wasting time arguing with this fool?

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