Is Bruce Jenner Trolling?

 
yeah identity comes from within not how others perceive you.

people are free to view themselves in the image they feel most comfortable and appropriate to their own lives. it has nothing to do with you or the way you judge them
just because you identify as something doesn't mean you are actually that thing.
 
just because you identify as something doesn't mean you are actually that thing.
Woah are u trying to say that I'm not a black man just cuz I have blonde hair blue eyes and pale skin? Cuz then u would b discriminating against me
 
 
 
yeah identity comes from within not how others perceive you.

people are free to view themselves in the image they feel most comfortable and appropriate to their own lives. it has nothing to do with you or the way you judge them
just because you identify as something doesn't mean you are actually that thing.
it's a matter of basic human rights. if you can't get behind a person claiming self-actualization of their own being then you're basically dehumanizing them
 
If women are comfortable with a butch lesbian in the gym then they should be comfortable with Bruce

I'm iffy on the sports because a transgendered woman still has a higher testosterone level than a cis gendered woman

It is completely negligent to not make somewhere aware of your sex or sexual orientation if you intend to have a sexual relationship with said person
  • So what's really the point of separate restrooms.. it isn't divided based on sexual attraction. The womens restroom at my job has a couch and the janitor cleans better.. why don't I get to go chop it up on the couch B?
  • Why do we designate separate clothing departments.. if everyone needs to be okay with cross dressing. We might as well throw underwear with underwear, outerwear together, etc. Get rid of the gender labels.
  • If its a medical disorder to feel like your body is wrong... can't health insurance pay for the operation to fix it?
  • Kimbo Slice judging by his beard has more testosterone than I have, does that mean we can't compete
  • Only thing negligent about them hiding being a trans is that you feel some type of way because you don't embrace that they can self actualize as humans.. how they see themselves doesn't affect you right? it's not about how you see them.. its from within.

     
Gender norms whether right or wrong were a progression of survival roles in early primitive people and then of the need to identify the opposite sex for reproduction and protection as clothes started covering up the obvious indicators. They still serve a purpose for a lot of people. To abolish them and dismiss anyone who subscribes to them is dehumanizing
 
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Isn't all this gender/sex talk just arguing semantics? Trying to compartmentalize traits?

From reading this thread it seems like it's basically an issue of perception. How people perceive themselves and how they want to be perceived by others.
 
So is Jenner allowed to use the public woman's bathroom?

What if women object to this since many probably still view him as a man?

That always made me wonder.

Or do only people that go under the knife get to chose which bathroom they use.

This is a wierd situation when you bring into consideration which "side" they do certain things with
 
then why is this 11 pages? all this attention for a man playing dress up? thought he at least got the p already with all this media noise. and he's still into p and not d?
all this excitement over being a damn trap?
 
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i dont get how he said he still loves yambs but then said he might have his joint chopped off in the future?
 
So is Jenner allowed to use the public woman's bathroom?

What if women object to this since many probably still view him as a man?

That always made me wonder.

Or do only people that go under the knife get to chose which bathroom they use.

This is a wierd situation when you bring into consideration which "side" they do certain things with

Before my cousin died, he was going through the process to become a woman.

He just didn't use the bathroom in public :lol:
 
[*] So what's really the point of separate restrooms.. it isn't divided based on sexual attraction. The womens restroom at my job has a couch and the janitor cleans better.. why don't I get to go chop it up on the couch B?

meh, ifi t's one of those single bathrooms and the male one is occupied and the female one isn't i'll go piss in the female one. its just a bathroom.
 
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You know what I have no problems with gay, lesbian, bi, transgender or whatever. But I hate this dude because of the family he is associated with. This all seems like some either publicity thing or he is doing this because of his family that either talked him into it or idk what the case is. It almost feels like he wants more spotlight for himself because they always get it, that he just said let me think of the most random bizarre thing I can think of. For some reason I highly doubt he has always lived like this unlike other transgender ppl.

I just cannot stand the stupidity of the whole kardashian family. I cannot believe that they are almost as the face of an American family right now and how little girls look up to these birds. I have no problem with what Kris Humphries tweeted. I'd be glad I got out of that dumb drama ridden family.
 
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