Nike Air Jordan 4 Retro "White/Cement" - The Aftermath - NO BUYING/SELLING/TRADING

jumpman cbt2 said:
just wonder whether they keep all details authentic to the ogs.
i mean even the 1999 retros had nike logo on the outsole and insole.
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The main details in addition to Nike Air, is the Netting. I wish they would correct that to the Original Netting. The current one they have used since 2004 is just horrible and cheap looking.

And Screw the Hang Tag, and Retro/Detail Booklet. Use that money to correct the Netting, which is a very important visual detail on the IV.
 
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I hope I can get these if not its gonna be a sad day for me , was lucky to get the 88's from NDC
 
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El Bro said:
jumpman cbt2 said:
just wonder whether they keep all details authentic to the ogs.
i mean even the 1999 retros had nike logo on the outsole and insole.
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The main details in addition to Nike Air, is the Netting. I wish they would correct that to the Original Netting. The current one they have used since 2004 is just horrible and cheap looking.

And Screw the Hang Tag, and Retro/Detail Booklet. Use that money to correct the Netting, which is a very important visual detail on the IV.
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Couldn't have been said any better. I can accept the shape being off if the netting is facing the right direction. They can even throw the Jumpman on the back still
 
PmpDaddyRobFord said:
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nah man come on, ain't it really the only all star weekend jordan we know of so far? by that I'd say these are a GR definitely
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Nah I think those white/red 4's are releasing on the same day.


Edit: ^^^ those are them
 
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Unless Nike is doing something completely different with these they will not be a GR or close to it. No retro Jordan with NA branding has been a GR, the last one to drop on ASW was the AJ3 WC88. There was supposedly around 120k, which is more than OG 1 numbers but not up there with a regular release. Usually a GR is about 250-350k, holiday releases can be up to 500k+.
 
AGzie said:
Unless Nike is doing something completely different with these they will not be a GR or close to it. No retro Jordan with NA branding has been a GR, the last one to drop on ASW was the AJ3 WC88. There was supposedly around 120k, which is more than OG 1 numbers but not up there with a regular release. Usually a GR is about 250-350k, holiday releases can be up to 500k+.
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But these are the 1st to explicitly showcase NA on the shoe under the remaster treatment, so it will be interesting to see what they do. On the one hand JB would be smart to make these a GR since these are far more coveted then any other retro+++ colorway JB could create and people will eat them up; on the other hand JB needs to maintain their "mystic" and release things in smaller quantities so they leave everyone wanting more. JB needs to make all OG releases GR and then pick and choose new color ways to be limited and quickstrike, etc.
 
AGzie said:
Unless Nike is doing something completely different with these they will not be a GR or close to it. No retro Jordan with NA branding has been a GR, the last one to drop on ASW was the AJ3 WC88. There was supposedly around 120k, which is more than OG 1 numbers but not up there with a regular release. Usually a GR is about 250-350k, holiday releases can be up to 500k+.
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7s had Nike air branding but I see your point. It's been stated these won't be as limited as the '88 3s. Despite your point, we in NT still hope for a GR or something close. I myself am no sneaker head and will not jump through hoops or hope for a 1 in 100000 chance at getting them online. A GR helps JB and the consumer. Oreo 4 numbers would be lit for these
 
The OG 1s have had NA since the remaster this year and the Maroon 6 will actually be the 1st outside of a 1 to have it since remaster. I don't personally have anything against a massive release of retros with NA, but I don't believe Nike is to the point that they need to do that yet. People can dream, but the reality is Nike is in the business of building hype so they can ultimately make money. If everyone can fill their closets with retros that are closest to the original since the original over the next several years/decade, however long that would take. What would their new angle be?

I was wearing Js back when MJ was wearing em on the court and they were not that difficult to buy. Look at the status symbol they have made of the brand over time. Since they raised retail on em so dramatically it seems some models take longer to sell and they aren't really holding value the way they were over the last few years. Nike needs that edge, people lining up week after week to buy up the entire stock. Resell prices rising, so that those that miss out on that limited release will buy up that mediocre retro+ cw. It doesn't mean they won't possibly drop a couple GR NA retros, but I wouldn't see it becoming the norm.

Because the modern day consumer values sneakers as close to the original as they can get, that makes the NA releases their 'Ace in the Hole.' A special drop they can limit and raise the cost on to drive people nuts. A reliable source also eluded to the Chicagos being a GR but we saw how they panned out.. There were still many without and considering the resell. Eventually, if they keep raising the cost annually, they are going to price themselves out of the market. And they will need something great to pull the people back in, Just a thought.
 
At that price point it's unlikely to be a GR.  The last 4 at this price was the laser, however, lasers are usually at a higher price.  If NA on the back were to become the norm, they'd be setting a precedent of a new GR price point.  Jumping from $190 to $220 doesn't make sense.  It's probably going to be similar to the laser 4; not super limited, but not GR.  They were only easy to come by b/c for that colorway at that price point, the demand simply wasn't there.  However, for this WC4, they'll fly off.  I'm thinking it will be somewhat of a struggle to get, but not impossible, and ultimately some of us will lose out despite best efforts simply due to volume and resellers.
 
The reason I said that is because look at the GR releases now, they're almost close to Holiday numbers. See what I'm getting at.
 
If these were a pack then I would believe the limited but, as a solo release I think these will run GR numbers without a doubt.  These aren't 1's even with the NA and they aren't a DB nor a pack or collection as far as we know. 

I ******* love IV's and they should fly off shelves but, this just seems like the route Nike is about to take on the next batch of shoes.  Feels more like some of you are just hoping it's super limited for whatever reason.
 
You guys understand what you're saying right now? One of, if not the best Jordan model and color way is coming out in its original form with the Nike air branding... Hasn't been done and almost 17 years... The only people who think these are going to be GR are the people who strike out on limited releases. With the price and branding on the back you have a better chance of them retroing the yeezys...
 
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