Nike Air Jordan 4 Retro "White/Cement" - The Aftermath - NO BUYING/SELLING/TRADING

My theory is once JB started using synthetics more and more, they began raising up the toe box give the foot more space. Having a foot confined into a space of soft material, the shoe is forgiving. Having your toes confined into a tight space with nonforgiving synthetic leather would cause disconfort. So they raised the toe cap.

Just my thoughts.
just came back from the gym and read this and decide to compare the toe box on my Xiis (ones i still have. two flints are gone. OG blk/red wht/red are gone. 04 blk/red are gone. and 04 taxi low gone)

starting from the oldest by pressing down on the toe box to see what happens. definitely feels the change in material over the years by JB.

04 blk/wht (shoes worn maybe 6 times in the past 10 years. no sole separation. never played in them. the pair i played in already abused and sold) press down the toe you feel the leather cave in and gradually comes back up. The OGs did this slower. 

09 wht/red (played in these for about 12 times over 3 months. the leather are broken in nicely. felt the leather quality is similar to the 04 at least on my pair) press down the toe and it comes back up slower than the 04.

09 nubuck (wore about 5 times casually. press down the toe box and it feel like i'm pressing cardboard.

12 obsidian (wore these a lot. my go to beater XIIs. suppose to break in, but it doesn't. leather are stiff as hell.) press down the toe and it pops right back up and you can feel the pop. it feels like it has a plastic layer underneath.

13 Taxi (played in these twice. wore casually 5-6 times. STIFF) press down the toe...same cardboard feel as the nubuck. 
 
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I love how predictable NT threads are. All of you are talking as if you might not buy, are unsure, and are picky about how they look. AS SOON AS WE GET CLOSE TO THE RELEASE DATE

Everyone will be drooling over these like with every release even though the look of the shoe prob won't change at all.
 
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OR, as a consumer you're just weighing if it's worth it or not to drop that kind of money on a shoe. I'm speaking for myself of course. I have the 2012 version also, but idk. 
 
Basically a 2012 pair with a Nike Air. Not really disappointed, because this is what I expected.

This. I said from the jump that all I'd bother letting myself hope for was a lighter shade of gray and soft leather.

It looks like 1 for 2 in those pictures so I'm still on the fence.
 
OR, as a consumer you're just weighing if it's worth it or not to drop that kind of money on a shoe. I'm speaking for myself of course. I have the 2012 version also, but idk. 
I'm just speaking on NT trends that have been redundant to me. The same thing always happens. If course some people don't chip because they didn't save up or they didn't put in enough work but before the RD everyone is always sure they'll cop.
 
 
OR, as a consumer you're just weighing if it's worth it or not to drop that kind of money on a shoe. I'm speaking for myself of course. I have the 2012 version also, but idk. 
I'm just speaking on NT trends that have been redundant to me. The same thing always happens. If course some people don't chip because they didn't save up or they didn't put in enough work but before the RD everyone is always sure they'll cop.
Yeah, I see what you're saying. It's pretty much standard HS syndrome in these threads. "They look terrible, not copping"....more pics....shape is off...those look fire at that angle....robocopped....2 pears....anyone got the link....I failed on NDC....
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. I copped for _____, not bad since I missed out. Rinse and repeat. Seems like the last 7 years on NT 
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Yeah, I see what you're saying. It's pretty much standard HS syndrome in these threads. "They look terrible, not copping"....more pics....shape is off...those look fire at that angle....robocopped....2 pears....anyone got the link....I failed on NDC....:nerd: . I copped for _____, not bad since I missed out. Rinse and repeat. Seems like the last 7 years on NT :lol:
yup.
 
Yeah, I see what you're saying. It's pretty much standard HS syndrome in these threads. "They look terrible, not copping"....more pics....shape is off...those look fire at that angle....robocopped....2 pears....anyone got the link....I failed on NDC....:nerd: . I copped for _____, not bad since I missed out. Rinse and repeat. Seems like the last 7 years on NT :lol:

There's only so much you can say about a pair of shoes :lol:
 
Happy about the small changes like the Nike on the outsole, netting thickness and angle, lace eyelets, etc.I'm ok about them using the og grey. I'm sad about the mold. But I'm still gonna cop.
 
If they made the gray lighter, some NTers might change their minds.

Without a doubt

Happy about the small changes like the Nike on the outsole, netting thickness and angle, lace eyelets, etc. I'm ok about them using the og grey. I'm sad about the mold. But I'm still gonna cop.

No etc. needed, you named all of em. Well most importantly the leather looks good too. Judging by the wringles around the angle section, it looks at least softer.
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Basically a 2012 pair with a Nike Air. Not really disappointed, because this is what I expected.

This. I said from the jump that all I'd bother letting myself hope for was a lighter shade of gray and soft leather.

It looks like 1 for 2 in those pictures so I'm still on the fence.

I couldve went all in thinking JB was def gonna hit us with light grey this time around. Even the '12 sample had the '99 grey shade. But for some odd reason they want to drop two identical retros back to back, with the only change being a Nike swoosh. The casual consumer would see them as basically the same shoe, because they dont care about a Nike sign.
 
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