Nike Air Jordan 4 Retro "White/Cement" - The Aftermath - NO BUYING/SELLING/TRADING

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I just wanted to point out that I been in.

I think many people who have been discussing the faults of the shoe have been in, we just are giving our opinion on the shoe. Even with those new pics, Im still indifferent on the look/quality of the shoe. Im still going to try to purchase though. 

Been lurking for a while, officially in.

The Alternate 89 IV's that drop before these look better than the White Cements IMO. I wonder what kind of leather they are using on these Cements because it looks like that typical "synthetic leather"

Yes.

yup no doubt I'm in 

DA HEN said:

Agreed, most associate tumbled leather with higher quality leather.

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everyone in the SBB thread needs to read this.

WhoIsThisGuy said:

The Alternate 89 IV's that drop before these look better than the White Cements IMO. I wonder what kind of leather they are using on these Cements because it looks like that typical "synthetic leather"

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again, we've yet to see official cements

PmpDaddyRobFord said:

again, we've yet to see official cements

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I'll probably be eating my words when they drop

The lighter grey color is pretty apparent in those pics up there, looks good

About to move these 'tech gray' joints. '89s will be mine.

If i can get a pair then i'm good

just want it to be more comfortable than the 2012 retro

I will give those pictures this, the gray looks way better, but I still can't get over the banana toe and the tongue for what they are trying to charge. It's just an insult to me at this point that you're putting a $50 upcharge on something that you should be doing in the first place, making them look like the originals.

I was in when they announced the retro for 2016 NA or not.

Damn I love these. This color way is always welcome anytime it arrives nike air or not; had em in 2012 and immediately grew out of em T_T always regretted not having them and I'm very thankful for another crack at em and they couldn't be better

I likes. I likes. Definitely in for a pair(or two) 

JBANKS41 said:

I likes. I likes. Definitely in for a pair(or two) 

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Originally Posted by jc619er  ​

It's just an insult to me at this point that you're putting a $50 upcharge on something that you should be doing in the first place, making them look like the originals.​

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MF Gooze said:

DA HEN said:

Agreed, most associate tumbled leather with higher quality leather.

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everyone in the SBB thread needs to read this.

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But the leather on the SBB is actually good tho

I'm not even one to complain usually but these actually really are disappointing for the most part. I agree with the people who feel the same. NA on back? Great! Lighter grey and OG/99' ish speckle? Wonderfull! But they give us the EXACT same leather and shape as the last release . Pretty sad. Only good thing I can see come from this is this; since they cut corners again on quality, maybe they will be widely available and easily attainable like your usual GR. With this quality they should let everybody and their mother eat. NA or not.

Maybe they'll have white leather like chi 1s and not like the stiff stuff we saw on the 2012s. Don't think you'd want them to use the same leather as the alternate 89s as those have a tumbled look. Cement 4s are an original 1989 release and a lot of people are fans and have memories in that particular colorway. We saw these in spike lees Do The Right Thing and they had their own scene in the movie that's a part of pop culture if you ask me. Then to not attract attention at all (sarcasm) they decide to make it a Nike Air release and put the logo on the heel. Basically what you have is an order for close to 1989 as possible. That explains the netting alignment correction. Just wish the mold for the IVs that JBs using nowadays had a more sloped toe box instead of the raised box appearance. Grabbing two pairs regardless

hassan16 said:

Maybe they'll have white leather like chi 1s and not like the stiff stuff we saw on the 2012s. Don't think you'd want them to use the same leather as the alternate 89s as those have a tumbled look. Cement 4s are an original 1989 release and a lot of people are fans and have memories in that particular colorway. We saw these in spike lees Do The Right Thing and they had their own scene in the movie that's a part of pop culture if you ask me. Then to not attract attention at all (sarcasm) they decide to make it a Nike Air release and put the logo on the heel. Basically what you have is an order for close to 1989 as possible. That explains the netting alignment correction. Just wish the mold for the IVs that JBs using nowadays had a more sloped toe box instead of the raised box appearance. Grabbing two pairs regardless

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Great post , I agree. I have a question though. I was thinking about grabbing two pairs if possible (second pair after I help @AirSakuragi  get his first) but then I was thinking. I take really good care of my shoes, would buying a second pair of 4's (with the air bubble) be a bad move because they will pretty much crumble by the time i'm ready to pull the other pair out? I bought a second pair of oreo 4's this year and I was having the same thought. Any insight would be greatly appreciated, thanks in advance.

Depends on how long you mean when you say by the time you're ready to pull them out. Some people go through their pairs pretty quickly so you could mean anywhere from 2-3 years to 12-13 years. Other points to consider are the lack of knowledge about the longevity of IVs produced from '04 until now (2004 pairs might start crumbling in 2017, who knows) and the lack of knowledge of JB possibly using different materials in the midsole. As far as crumbling, I've seen only the 4s that were released in 1999 crumble. Idk if that issue has made it's way to 04-06 releases because I don't have any. They probably have tho considering folks DMP VIs are falling apart (recently happened to fat joe who claimed he kept them DS). Hopefully JBs been using new materials in the midsoles after the 1999s to combat the crumbling but until we find out for sure you should still go ahead and double if you really like a particular release. This years Oreos were pretty solid. I liked the materials used on the upper and I noticed that after 20+ wears since initial release up till now, there isn't a single crack on my Oreo IVs midsoles. My 2012 bred IVs tho.. don't get me started

If you do double and want to keep your 'on ice pair' in existence longer, fret not for there are now methods and ways of going about to prolong the life of your 'on ice' shoes before the dreaded crumbling. Even on shoes like 4s with air in the heel, we now know that if you lightly wear your stored kicks once in a while, like every few months or so, your shoes won't crumble as fast. I'm guessing the added pressure from your body weight brings life to the polyurethane midsole that, if left stored away without that weight from your body applied to it every now and again, would dry out and crumble. There are members here that can still wear 1999 pairs and other older releases without worrying about crumbling because they've always worn them since they released, some sparingly and others religiously. But in the same breath there are many other members who have kept their shoes stored and in true deadstock condition that had their pairs separate, crumble, and fall apart on very first wear. This method ultimately won't stop them from crumbling completely but it will definitely buy you some time. Overall what can be said is that the best way to preserve your jordan sneakers, your pieces of sports and pop culture history that you want to keep mint condition for as long as possible to continue enjoying them in their pristine, nostalgic condition, is to simply wear them; a practice many collectors don't want to do. Ironic.

Sorry for the paragraphs