Nike Air Jordan 4 Retro "White/Cement" - The Aftermath - NO BUYING/SELLING/TRADING

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Salacious Crumb said:
Off the top of my head, I can list:

Jordan 12 - Black/Red
Jordan 12 - French Blue
Jordan 5 - Black Metallic, Nike Air
Jordan 2 low - Chicago
Jordan 14 - indiglo 

Some non-OG/first retro's like

Jordan 12 - Master
Jordan 2 - Wing it
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17s are also releasing this year
 
That vid is on point but wtf @ the GS pair having no Nike on the sole? and WTF on the hangtag? I know there were hundreds of pages talking about that but c'mon give us that nike hangtag haha.
 
Magic1978 said:
Those are better ways to actually accomplish something. If that what you're trying to do, or just complain? Nike Talk isn't part of Nike. You guys are making the same remastering complaints that have occurred over the past year. In every thread the same complaints are made about the shape. After all the IV's released last year, did you think the molds would suddenly be different on these?

Dude even posted the interview, and there was never a promise that the sneakers would be exactly like the OG. They said they would TRY, No reproduction, much less one 30 years later is going to be exactly like the original.

There is a remastering thread. Continuously coming in a thread to complain about a sneaker you aren't going to buy? And you claim to be doing it to enact change?

I'm a logical person, I don't see the logic in it.
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Most all posts on the boards can be bucketed into the following;

-Complaining (vast majority of posts, 60% of all posts)
-Attackng other board members (30% of all posts)
-Posting pictures of the shoe (+, ~ 5%)
-Review videos (+, ~ 5%)

Then afterward, those people go onto their shill accounts and like their own posts.....

Same old, nothing logical.
 
Spent $190 on the MC FK AF1 a few days ago.

Gonna end up returning those to cop two of these.

NO RAGRETS.
 
Magic1978 said:
Those are better ways to actually accomplish something. If that what you're trying to do, or just complain? Nike Talk isn't part of Nike. You guys are making the same remastering complaints that have occurred over the past year. In every thread the same complaints are made about the shape. After all the IV's released last year, did you think the molds would suddenly be different on these?

Dude even posted the interview, and there was never a promise that the sneakers would be exactly like the OG. They said they would TRY, No reproduction, much less one 30 years later is going to be exactly like the original.

There is a remastering thread. Continuously coming in a thread to complain about a sneaker you aren't going to buy? And you claim to be doing it to enact change?

I'm a logical person, I don't see the logic in it.
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How is consumer feedback not logical to you?

The remastering initiative is due at least in part to consumer feedback about cardboard quality and OG details.

Every positive aspect about this WC4 release (Nike Air, color) ? Consumer feedback about the shoddy 2012 release.

A logical person wouldn't ignore something right in front of their face.

Last year's IVs or last year's anything are irrelevant too, since JB said the remastering will continue to "evolve."

And about that interview where they said they would TRY - I'm not seeing any attempt to try and change up the molds, are you? Your excuse that they can't reproduce a shoe from 30 years ago is weak. Especially because they were able to closely, with the first re-release 15 years ago, and 10 years after the original.

And again you don't seem to understand that at the end of the day, a forum is for positive and negative opinions. Don't really understand why any type of complaint seems to pain you so, but the logical thing to do would be to move on.
 
nt09 said:
How is consumer feedback not logical to you?

The remastering initiative is due at least in part to consumer feedback about cardboard quality and OG details.

Every positive aspect about this WC4 release (Nike Air, color) ? Consumer feedback about the shoddy 2012 release.

A logical person wouldn't ignore something right in front of their face.

Last year's IVs or last year's anything are irrelevant too, since JB said the remastering will continue to "evolve."

And about that interview where they said they would TRY - I'm not seeing any attempt to try and change up the molds, are you? Your excuse that they can't reproduce a shoe from 30 years ago is weak. Especially because they were able to closely, with the first re-release 15 years ago, and 10 years after the original.

And again you don't seem to understand that at the end of the day, a forum is for positive and negative opinions. Don't really understand why any type of complaint seems to pain you so, but the logical thing to do would be to move on.
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Because unlike you not actually talking to Nike up here, you are here to converse with.

I'm trying to reason and gain some understanding on what you accomplish. But go ahead complain away until your hearts content. This release is still coming out the same way on the 13th :lol:
 
That guys crease video has me thinking.
The reason we get plastic leather is because guys like him don't understand soft leather.

They seem to rather have sharp 90 degree creases than natural ones.

He really lost me talking about the back of the 11s when absolutely every pair ever made loses heel shape.
 
Just saw Foamer's review and noticed inconsistent stitching. Making me debate grabbing a few pairs off ndc hoping to find a perfect pair.
 
160jordansdeep said:
617collector said:
It's been established. But at the end of the day some people want peace of mind or they just like to waste money :lol:

Some fool said last week he's willing to spend up to $350 on a legit mom and pop shop who's selling early :rofl:
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yeah all star that fool was me
thanks for being so worried with my finances

hopefully i should have a pair today for $280.00 piece of mind for one pair and retail if i got another

but i will agree $280.00 is better then paying $350.00

btw is their any clothing for the wc 4's ?
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Yeah, you were the fool I was referring to :lol:

Wasn't worried about your finance decisions but I did find it amusin of how thirsty you were
 
I remember getting these back in 1999 and someone laughed at me saying they looked like payless shoes.

I didnt give 2 shakes. I've always loved this pair. But charging foamposite prices now for Jordan 4s :smh:

Im probably passing on these.
 
Magic1978 said:
nt09 said:
Which part of my post are you responding with the word, "No"?

I said complaining has a greater chance of affecting change than saying nothing. This is fact. Posting on NT, writing letters - doesn't matter which, literally anything is better than nothing.

And simply not buying without communicating why, is useless because sales data can be interpreted any which way. No one's actually going to know it was the shape that made you pass, otherwise.

I mean, almost every positive aspect of a shoe like this, from Nike Air branding, to color, to quality of materials, is something someone somewhere once complained about. Consumer feedback is real and proven, so I'm wondering what you're still wondering about.
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Those are better ways to actually accomplish something. If that what you're trying to do, or just complain? Nike Talk isn't part of Nike. You guys are making the same remastering complaints that have occurred over the past year. In every thread the same complaints are made about the shape. After all the IV's released last year, did you think the molds would suddenly be different on these?

Dude even posted the interview, and there was never a promise that the sneakers would be exactly like the OG. They said they would TRY, No reproduction, much less one 30 years later is going to be exactly like the original.

There is a remastering thread. Continuously coming in a thread to complain about a sneaker you aren't going to buy? And you claim to be doing it to enact change?

I'm a logical person, I don't see the logic in it.
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Nike follows all sneaker forums. I know people who work there they're [emoji]128064[/emoji]
 
I agree; the price is getting ridiculous.  Even though what I spend on shoes is only a fraction of a percent of my disposable income (i.e. it's not about being able to afford them), it's getting to be pathetic to spend that much money on one pair of shoes.  If I only had a couple of pairs at a time I could justify it, however, at this point it's no longer logical.  I suppose only the die hard collectors will persist.  That said, I'd like to cop all OG 4 colorways (and any Retro+ colorway that's awesome (I'm on the fence with the Dunk From Above 4s).  
 
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