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Sad story.
I grew up in Federal Way, so this hits close to home
RIP babygirl
I grew up in Federal Way, so this hits close to home
RIP babygirl
Girl commits suicide, could be due to video public shaming parenting
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RIP
2015: THE CULTURE WHERE PEOPLE LIKE TO EXPOSE OTHER PEOPLE
2015: THE CULTURE WHERE PEOPLE LIKE TO EXPOSE OTHER PEOPLE
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Being a parent in 2015 must be extremely tricky.
With the advent of social media being as prevalant as it is, it's hard man.
With the advent of social media being as prevalant as it is, it's hard man.
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Damn I just alluded to this.
It's essentially peer pressure x100. Kids operate by who they are influenced by, and twitter / instagram / facebook / tumblr / youtube / whatever else is on your kid's cell phone plays just as big of a part as parenting does as far as what the primary influences of your children are.
What can a parent really do when their 7th grader goes to school and is outcasted because he can't gather 100 likes on a picture. Seems trivial, but that means a lot to a 7th grader. A kid spends so much time at school, with friends, and other people his age, that that means more than anything that a parent could teach. Kids then start to conform to what is necessary to get those likes on fb, or IG. Social Media is raising kids out here and it's not an easy fix as a parent.
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I agree it isn't a easy fix. The jr. high demographic have to deal with identity issues and being accepted for who they are. But, as parents, I believe that they should still show conditional love and re-affirm that "e-props" or "e-fame" does not define who they are. Encourage them to be themselves and atleast have a relationship with their child to have a general understanding of what they encounter on a daily basis. The parents still have a right to give their child a "smart phone" or not. They don't have to be on all these social media outlets. The parents can cut that out from them.
But if the parents weren't raised that way, I can see where the issues can come up with their children.
I know it was difficult for some family and friends that had parents who immigrated here to the US after grade school. So they're mentality was still held to a old-fashioned standard that is completely different from U.S.
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This public shaming stuff is for idiots who don't know how to parent
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A huge reach, I know, but social media needs to be either better policed or completely done away with.
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I agree. Brings more harm than good and is getting into the hands of impressionable children who aren't responsible enough to handle it.
Can you imagine how many 6th, and 7th graders check in to curve city because they are one of the few people in their classroom(s) who don't have over 1,000 followers on the gram?
It takes the ills of peer pressure and multiplies it x10. And you can only imagine what it does to young girls out here. And if they are pudgy or overweight too? What about the kids who can't afford to look nice everyday? That's been an issue for forever with kids, but it's even worse now with social media.
Better policed is an understatement. Although I won't say do away with completely, but something does need to be done. And it's almost just as bad with adults too, but that's a conversation for another time.
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Well yeah, parents can still show that unconditional love to their child, but at the end of the day the place that parents and their re-affirmations about what's real and what isn't and what matters and what doesn't, comes 2nd. The way to get to children is to get to their friends. Kids nowadays care more about IG than their parents unconditional love.
And you could take the smartphone away from your child but again, it isn't as simple as this. Do you wanna be "that" parent? The one who puts their child in a position where he's the only kid in school without a smartphone? Leads to possibly even more teasing. Plus, as a parent you work hard so you want to bless your children with nice things so it's a double edge sword.
I honestly think being a parent is extremely hard in 2015, and I for one am glad that I am not one. I can't imagine how hard it must be to console a child who only gets 15, 20 likes on a picture or he doesn't have the amount of followers, or isn't deemed as attractive as his classmates because of social media standards. It's sick.
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I mean these kids aren't even old enough to be joins into social media yet they're allowed to have accounts. These sites need to be out to trial
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You never know what someone is going through. As a father, you are the single most important male figure in your daugher's life. With that said, I can't even imagine what he's going through right now. Not knowing whether he contributed to her suicide or not, and especially the fact that she is gone forever.
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Sad man. All the way around
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Just going to add this. If a person is even considering suicide , it is evidence of being unhealthy mentally. Also, a lot of people may have suicide IDEALATION but they don't commit suicide. They still have the natural extinct of survival and to push through distress.
When it comes to a point where's there's a suicide plan established and that line between fantasy and reality is crossed, understand that that person is handling more than they can bear. They have exceeded their limit. The body and brain automatically SHUTS DOWN . There's no fight or flight response. There's no survival instinct. At a certain point, one may drastically lose weight, quit work, withdraw...they will not care about activities that they used to. There is a reason people contemplating suicide are put in hospitals and on 24 hour+ watches. They are in destructive mode and it is out of their control. You may hear stories about a person thinking of ending their life and having strangers save them through saying nice things. They thought about it, they had the boost to control their pain and work on it. They IDEALIZED suicide. There's another subcateogory of people who that will not work on.
People with plans will jump from the golden gate bridge with no thought about if their body will be recovered stopping them. They will blow their face to pieces . They will set themselves on fire and drink bleach. Take it from someone who knows psychology and please look into this. They need outside professional help. Their brain will not be wired for a pat on the shoulder. Their brain is sending the only signal it can to end the pain quickly. Instead of fight or flight, their own thoughts become destructive because they are convinced they can't do either.
Your statement is like saying a bipolar person should kick his meds and exercise. Mental illness is real.
And people deal with pain differently. Some things that one person can handle will break another. A 13 year old's world would be High School and family. She experienced shame and humiliation on both ends.
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What makes you say this?
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It's hard for me to sum it up off the top of my head but I'll try my best. Also, I'm speaking from a social standpoint. And of course everything is just my opinion.
1. Too big of an outlet
2. Too powerful of an influence
3. Too easily manipulated
4. Too easily misinterpreted
5. Is still looked at as an artificial platform but in reality is very real with very real consequences
6. Too easily attainable
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I see. I wasn't disagreeing with you btw, I just wanted to hear your viewpoint on that.
The internet may have not "ruined the world " but my goodness is brought a lot of bad as well as good. The point you made about it being viewed as an artificial platform when its reality I definitely agree with.
Internet is turning peoplr into callous, shallow robots
The internet may have not "ruined the world " but my goodness is brought a lot of bad as well as good. The point you made about it being viewed as an artificial platform when its reality I definitely agree with.
Internet is turning peoplr into callous, shallow robots
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Yeah, maybe "ruined the world" was a bit of an exaggeration, but he physiological and social ramifications are abundant and growing worse
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Same could be said for any media form though. Just because bad things go on, doesn't mean it needs to be done away with. If we wanted to keep everyone perfectly safe, we would eliminate cars too. After all, 40,000 people die every year from cars.
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No. Social media allows for direct and instant interaction among all people on it. HUGE difference. Your car analogy just doesn't make sense with any of this at all.
And again, I KNOW it won't go away. I'm just saying
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Anybody notice some of the peeps on the facebook page want somebody to make a video like the original one shaming the father?
How is that fixing anything? What if that drives him to suicide? Do we just keep the train rolling and shame those on facebook?
same reason why I deleted mine. People are dumb.
We as a society are overly sensative. Happy my parents raised me well, only had to get my butt whooped a few times by my father before I was set straight. Some people just don't deserve to have kids.
How is that fixing anything? What if that drives him to suicide? Do we just keep the train rolling and shame those on facebook?
same reason why I deleted mine. People are dumb.
We as a society are overly sensative. Happy my parents raised me well, only had to get my butt whooped a few times by my father before I was set straight. Some people just don't deserve to have kids.
I think the point is that people can ruin anything. The internet isn't inherently evil, people just aren't mature and considerate enough to use it.
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Yes, absolutely, but I'm saying that it's something that can be stopped or at least monitored. Social media is a royal rumble of everything under the sun with nothing to govern it.
As I stated previously, it needs to be either taken down, or better policed. We've got people telling other to kill themselves, ect, with absolutely zero consequence or action outside of a thumbs down button.
These social media sites need to be also held accountable for allowing minors on to their site. That "please click here if you're 18" bs is laughable and completely useless
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We don't need better social media police.
we need better parenting.
we need better parenting.
