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Who's the NBA's next megastar in around 5 years?
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Westbrook and Curry and whatever saucy point guard
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[quote name="sea manup"]the question is why is chris paul considered a megastar
i would say its pretty on topic[/quote]No, it's not.
I didn't say no one asked a question about Chris Paul.
I'm saying that he was brought up and your anti-CP agenda has completely distracted from the thread's intention, which was to discuss the next megastar.
Clearly, Chris is not a candidate. Holding the thread hostage with an argument that makes it clear that he is not a megastar is both obnoxious and unnecessary.
i would say its pretty on topic[/quote]No, it's not.
I didn't say no one asked a question about Chris Paul.
I'm saying that he was brought up and your anti-CP agenda has completely distracted from the thread's intention, which was to discuss the next megastar.
Clearly, Chris is not a candidate. Holding the thread hostage with an argument that makes it clear that he is not a megastar is both obnoxious and unnecessary.
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I don't see how Chris Paul is on the same tier as LeBron KD & Orlando Dwight. All of those guys led their teams to the finals. They have a significantly greater impact on playoff basketball. We just saw a Chris Paul team get ran off the court in their gym by A Rockets team with Harden on the bench, and this was with a trip to the conference finals on the line. So now we've seen him for a decade, and the best he's done is win 1 series & get eliminated in the next round. Nah.
Anthony Davis too. He can't even get his teammates to get him the ball consistently. And dudes clowned DeAndre's defensive prowess because the Clippers weren't a top 10 defensive team, yet we laud AD on that end when the Pel's defense ranked #22 out of 30.
He doesn't belong on that tier either. Waaaaaay too early, though he certainly looks like he'll be the next great one.
As for Wiggins, if his ball handling continues to progress, he can get on that top tier. He has elite physical traits, so the hardest part is already out of the way.
The only issue is Rubio's presence on the team. Gonna be kinda hard for Wiggins to get enough game reps, especially since Rubio is worthless off the ball because he can't shoot.
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its not a anti-CP agenda at all. I treat all nba players equally
if someone called dame lillard a top 5 PG or megastar, i would call them out on it too. but they don't, these things are only said about chris paul.
i still dont see how this is not related to the thread topic. before we are able to talk about who we think is going to be the NEXT megastar we need to establish what level of player is considered a megastar. chris paul being a megastar sets the bar way lower and changes the entire conversation since most people see the kobes, lebrons and tim duncans of the world as megastars.
but i see your point, and that's my bad. I will stop letting the misguided opinions of a few posters on here hold the thread hostage seeing that the mass majority of rational nba fans in here dont take people bringing up chris paul's name up in these types of discussions seriously. i will try my best to ignore them from here on out.
but back to the topic, AD is the only guy on pace to be a megastar in 5 years.
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A. It's not your job to call anyone out. It's funny when we do it to each other in jest; it's annoying when someone makes it their responsibility, when they become a one man anti- or pro- task force.
B. No, we don't need to establish a bar in order to have the discussion. Just throw names out there. If YOU need to establish a bar before naming candidates, that's fine, but that's your thing.
B. No, we don't need to establish a bar in order to have the discussion. Just throw names out there. If YOU need to establish a bar before naming candidates, that's fine, but that's your thing.
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If we're talking about the best player in the NBA, its gonna be AD no questions. But if you wanna talk about megastar like THE icon of the NBA on MJ/Kobe/Lebron levels....it won't be him. Imma just keep it real and say AD is too damn ugly to be as marketable as the other three 
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A. its clearly not a one man task force as a good number of our frequent members seem to have issues with the habitual overrating of certain players. but you're right it would be better for these corrections to not derail threads like they currently do.
B. of course you dont need to establish a bar but it does help the conversation. most arguments about "super star" players happen not because of a disagreement of a player's level of play but rather what each person defines as a superstar. getting to understand what each person uses to define a megastar helps the discussion and allows us better understanding of each other's opinions.
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If the Clips can get over the hump, Blake can be a megastar. All homerism aside, he's only 26, had a fantastic playoff for the most part, and his ventures off the court suggest he can be a megastar, especially with the market he plays in
AD is an obvious choice, but I don't know if his team and location are good enough to foster a "megastar" however. He'll be able to surely make a claim for best player in the league, but megastar? ehhhh we'll see.
Way too early with Wiggins. Can go either way.
AD is an obvious choice, but I don't know if his team and location are good enough to foster a "megastar" however. He'll be able to surely make a claim for best player in the league, but megastar? ehhhh we'll see.
Way too early with Wiggins. Can go either way.
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wiggins is faced with the same problems as AD. hopefully the wolves can build a good team around him but im not counting on it
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If the Wolves get a superstar at number 2 pick
I think Wiggins may have the inside track to become a megastar
I think Wiggins may have the inside track to become a megastar
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If we're talking about the best player in the NBA, its gonna be AD no questions. But if you wanna talk about megastar like THE icon of the NBA on MJ/Kobe/Lebron levels....it won't be him. Imma just keep it real and say AD is too damn ugly to be as marketable as the other three
Don't you talk about my guy like that!
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while i hope they leave towns for us, i really do want to see wiggins and the wolves be great
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They can be great with Wiggy and Jah
In terms of a megastar, I personally define that as a trancendent talent on the court, wins at a reasonably high level and is also a force off of the court in terms of marketability, brand recognition and cache.
In the past I believe in earnest that Kobe and LeBron have been this past/current generations megastar with KD right on the cusp. Duncan in particular just has a personality that hasn't led to him at any point really being the face of the league. KG didn't start winning at a high level until he was past his prime. You almost have to have a perfect set of circumstances to have all of these events take place at the same time. While AD looks to be next in line, if KD wins a chip next year or right after, he has all the other boxes checked already, it's the only thing missing to take him to that next stratosphere. I think if Curry has a strong finish to this finals, he has what the league is looking to push right now.
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I think he term "megastar" is up to interpretation. But for me, megastars are not just incredible basketball talents. They are much more than that. They are huge personalities. They are larger than the game. They are celebrities. They are mobbed by people everywhere they go. They are presenters at movie/music awards. They are pop culture icons. They are easily identifiable by your grandma who has never watched a basketball game in her life.
Using the above criteria, I strongly believe the only "megastars" in my entire lifetime have been Michael Jordan, Shaquille O'Neal, Kobe Bryant and LeBron James.
And to answer the question topic of the thread, I dont think there is a single player in the league currently that will be a megastar in the next five years. Not a one. Anthony Davis included.
Using the above criteria, I strongly believe the only "megastars" in my entire lifetime have been Michael Jordan, Shaquille O'Neal, Kobe Bryant and LeBron James.
And to answer the question topic of the thread, I dont think there is a single player in the league currently that will be a megastar in the next five years. Not a one. Anthony Davis included.
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Some people need learn the limits of argument.
If you have such a wildly divergent view of basketball/some individual player, and you have litigated through every conceivable angle at SOME point can't you just agree to disagree and not hold every thread hostage?
I'm mean really whats the point.
If you have such a wildly divergent view of basketball/some individual player, and you have litigated through every conceivable angle at SOME point can't you just agree to disagree and not hold every thread hostage?
I'm mean really whats the point.
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Repped, because I like how you describe your interpretation. I brought that up in this thread earlier in that it means different things to different people, so at least knowing how you view it can keep the discussion more focused I think.
They're kinda on their way, but they need to draft Towns. Or not even Towns, but if Flip knows something that the rest of us don't and that guy pans out as the best from this class then I don't care either.
And I still think bringing KG for man than 1 year was the right thing. Wiggins basically has to do what Garnett did with the franchise and I'd even argue that Wiggins has a much better nucleus to start with.
I would take that 10 times out of 10...Maybe 9 times...The percentage would be high though.
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you guys really saying Embiid? lol dude is the next sam bowie, next greg oden.
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I might ad Allen Iverson to your list.
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Duncan don't eem get attention like that though.
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Why are people mentioned Greek freak as a superstar?.....
He will be nothing more than what he is now. A decent/solid nba player
He will be nothing more than what he is now. A decent/solid nba player