Donald Trump is running for president

Dudes really willing to take a risk on Trump because he might be different? :smh:

How any minority is willing to take that kind of risk I will never understand.

Do you know how bold his supporters (racists) will be when they think the president is on their side?

If you think all the BS that goes on now won't be even worse if he was in office you're crazy.

I guess diego and ninja don't care because they are in NYC
 
Master Zik said:
If you admit you don't know what we'll get with Trump how can you say you don't know if Trillary will be better after saying she'll be following Obama's administration and it'll be 4-8 more years of that?

I feel like so many ppl are confused unaware of what Obama inherited and what actual problems were caused due to his time in office.
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He has the recession dumped on him, but he had a good 2 years to do whatever he wanted. He spent the first 4 years trying to get re-elected and the last 4 years being a thorn in the GOP's side to build his legacy. Nothing to see here, move along.
 
RustyShackleford said:
-First off, it is nice you're willing to make the sacrifice for one year. But the people that will be deported, blocked from entering the country, and continuing to be funneling into jails might care.

Maybe you're willing to make that sacrifice probably because you think you won't be hurt that much.

Trump can destroy the lives of plenty of people, even many of this so called supporters

-Plus it won't be for one term. Trump will have potentially 3 SOCTUS picks in his first term.

That means the Supreme Court will harshly conservative for another generation, we talking at least like 15-20 years.

That threatening abortion rights, rolling back voting rights, rolling back rights laws, homosexuals not getting acting to the Civil Rights Act, people potentially being losing their health insurance if Obamacare goes up again, and further the rights of big businesses.

And I'm not even exaggerating. Obama was way better than Bush and only had 2 years to cook with a Congress that was willing to work with him. There are tons of stuff Obama wanted to do but couldn't because Congress refused to work with him

Like famb, Trump is planning to add over 9 trillion to our national deficient by just giving very wealthy people tax cuts

And you wanna roll the dice on a known bigot is hopes he surprises everyone and doesn't **** **** up.

Nah I'll pass brah
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pretty much all that has to be said really. i dont understand how people can say they dont see a problem with this man's rhetoric 
 
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Master Zik said:
If you admit you don't know what we'll get with Trump how can you say you don't know if Trillary will be better after saying she'll be following Obama's administration and it'll be 4-8 more years of that?

I feel like so many ppl are confused unaware of what Obama inherited and what actual problems were caused due to his time in office.
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He has the recession dumped on him, but he had a good 2 years to do whatever he wanted. He spent the first 4 years trying to get re-elected and the last 4 years being a thorn in the GOP's side to build his legacy. Nothing to see here, move along.
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The same GOP that said after his reelection "we are going to do everything we can to make him a 1 term president." It's paraphrased but that's what Mitch McConnell said. You have to have your head in a hole if you think Obama even had a chance to build a legacy where the other party wants to block everything he does point blank.
 
seandon23 said:
pretty much all that has to be said really. i dont understand how people can say they dont see a problem with this man's rhetoric 
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Biggie62 said:
The same GOP that said after his reelection "we are going to do everything we can to make him a 1 term president." It's paraphrased but that's what Mitch McConnell said. You have to have your head in a hole if you think Obama even had a chance to build a legacy where the other party wants to block everything he does point blank.
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I'm not supporting the crusty old GOP. Obama had two years to put in work. Once that went, he ended up building his legacy on background and executive orders. He may have signed far less, but the amnesty bomb build a solid foundation.
 
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The main political problem that Obama had was in early 2009, he should have structured the Stimulus like TARP for workers. Call it the BWP (Beleaguered Workers program) and spend all of the money on full employment policies. He also could have lowered time expectations and said it was a four year program and once the money was appropriated, the Congress, that got elected in 2010, could not touch it. Furthermore, his program should have had no tax cuts in it and he could have used the expiring Bush tax cuts as leverage to get fundamental payroll tax reform (lowering the rate and raising the cap). Also, he could have used the massive BWP funds as leverage against recalcitrant Congressmen, especially those conservative Democrats who suddenly started to worry about the debt as soon as the state tried to help ordinary people.

I know that Obama faced challenges that white Presidents do not face but it was all the more reason to be swifter, more decisive and less conciliatory. Republicans were never going to love you, no matter how much you wanted to be bipartisan. Use the crisis to amass vast amounts of money and then use that money to punish enemies and reward friends.
 
Trump is tearing apart the Republican Party from the inside, there's no "might" about that.
When I talk about the wildcard factor, I'm referring more to that than anything else.

Maybe, bein in NY does give me a certain piece of mind that I may not have if I lived in one of those racist states in the South or something...but I can only speak from my point of view so can I really be faulted for that.

Id also like to point out that I'm not necessarily a Trump supporter as much as I'm enjoying the political system getting flipped on its head, I'm sure Ive made that case in this thread before.

Trump won't be able to build a wall so why pay attention to that nonsense talk?
Millions of illegal immigrants won't get deported cause of Trump taking office so I won't put much weight into that either.
If a liberal candidate ran for office and made promises that all liberal democrats wanted to hear, we'd all acknowledge how that would never happen.
Trump is doing the same thing but from the other extreme of the spectrum.

Trump isn't even my first choice.
Ideally I'd go for Sanders over Trump but it doesn't look like he'll get the nom.
It's unfortunate, but if I have to choose between Hillary and Trump, it's Trump.

I made up my mind about Hillary the day someone asked her a question about legalizing weed, gay marrriage or one of those other hot topics that we love getting distracted with and this ***** still trying to play both sides and not give a clear answer. Like, we been having these debates since I was in elementary school and she still playing politics and not taking a stand one way or the other.
I find that to be far more dangerous than the clown that's talking about building walls, and making other countries spin on its head.
 
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Hillary even lied about her name, that goes how much to show she's a typical politician. But Trump is like throwing yourself into a black hole, what's going to happen?

It's playing Russian Roulette with 4 bullets in the cylinders, or breaking your arm.
 
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Diego said:
"Some men, just want to watch the world burn"
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New Trump Campaign slogan

The only thing I like is that he's tough on Radical Islam, but that travel ban thing also sounds like some massive "hey scared bigots elect me" BS. At least he's not Ted Cruz with 24/7 NSA Muslim watch.
 
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Slighted said:
Hillary has 8 years locked in.

America will indeed be great under her regime.
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Really? Care to tell me da last time a

Party controlled da presidency for 16 years

Straight? [emoji]129300[/emoji] last time a party even did

3 consecutive terms is Reagon to da 1st Bush.
 
ninjahood said:
Trump is left to Hillary on Foreign issues.

All that bluster aint fooling me when he tryin To tax Nato members for catching a Free

ride On US military power :lol: :pimp:
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Ehh...People keep saying that Trump is on the left of Hillary, but they're both pretty far-right.


Trump wants to ban Muslims, he wants to build a wall and have Mexico pay for it, he wants to take ISIS' oil which would require American boots on the ground.


Hillary wants to continue to support Israel, she wants to takeout ISIS' stronghold in Syria and she wants to dismantle the global terror network, whatever that means...



Frankly they're both going to expand the military-industrial complex one way or another. Sure Trump is neutral on some issues where Hillary is far-right, but you can say the same thing for Hillary on some issues where Trump is far-right, immigration for example.


We can nitpick at these issues all day, but really neither is better than the other. The best option we have isn't a realistic one at this point.
 
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RustyShackleford said:
And she will still be better than Trump
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Not with her far-right foreign policy, they both ******* stink.
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Yes they both stink on foreign policy

But Clinton is way better on social issues and economics.

And she would nominate liberal judges to the supreme court

Like you said, we can pick and choose all day

But looking at the overall picture. Clinton is still way better than Drumpf
 
RustyShackleford said:
Yes they both stink on foreign policy

But Clinton is way better on social issues and economics.

And she would nominate liberal judges to the supreme court

Like you said, we can pick and choose all day

But looking at the overall picture. Clinton is still way better than Drumpf
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True dat. But honestly the Supreme Court does have a big window even now. Scalia was a cool dude, but the majority of Americans don't agree with him. It's basically 4-3 majority for the next few months anyways.
 
Here is a transcript of a foreign policy interview Drumpf did with the New York Times. LINK

A few good points sandwich in between nonsensical rambling

For example:

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I completely understand someone being disagreeing with Hillary's foreign policy ideologies. I don't, and like I said all modern presents have been different levels of ****

But Drumpf legit doesn't know what the hell he is talking about half the time. He just rambles
 
I'm beginning to really hate how Trump talks.

That he has to start every thing with we totally suck at this but under me we'll win and then mention that and interrupt his own points every now and then has been unbearable.

I've seen the lulls in his speeches at conventions. It's like the crows gets bored with what he's saying until he catches on and says something buzz worthy for applause.
 
Dude is talkin out the booty. He said ISIS was rollin around in better vehicles than us last year.
 
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/03/18/bernie-sanders-supporters-could-vote-for-donald-trump-expert.html

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ters-consider-donald-trump-no-hillary-clinton

The latest startling phenomenon is the voter who is feeling the Bern, but also has eyes for the Donald.

This week the Guardian sought out Sanders fans who are contemplating switching their allegiance to Trump if Hillary Clinton secures the Democratic nomination.

Almost 700 people replied to the call-out, and some 500 of them said they were thinking the unthinkable: a Sanders-Trump switch.

They explained their unconventional position by expressing a variety of passionately held views on their shared commitment for protecting workers and against new wars, on their zeal for an alternative to the establishment, and on their desire to support anyone but Hillary Clinton
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^^^ that's because trump and berni are both anti establishment,

Hillary is the prototypical politician that we're all tired of
 
Rollinwithangel said:
^^^ that's because trump and berni are both anti establishment,

Hillary is the prototypical politician that we're all tired of
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Bingo, rusty (and frankly every Establishment pundit inside da NYC/DC corridor) has underestimated this appeal

Of trump.

Difference between Trump & Bernie is Bernie

Has NO CHANCE with da DNC big wigs.

Trump has a GREAT chance to shake **** up.
 
ninjahood said:
Rollinwithangel said:
^^^ that's because trump and berni are both anti establishment,

Hillary is the prototypical politician that we're all tired of
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Bingo, rusty (and frankly every Establishment pundit inside da NYC/DC corridor) has underestimated this appeal

Of trump.

Difference between Trump & Bernie is Bernie

Has NO CHANCE with da DNC big wigs.

Trump has a GREAT chance to shake **** up.
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Yall dudes are gonna realize all of this was a bunch of hot air when Trillary wins easily.

There is no underestimating. The game is just rigged for yall to lose. Only reason Trump is flourishing is cuz of the Rep. not having a candidate that was a true favorite of the base. Now they're settling for Cruz. Bet money they'll reconsider the entire primary process and delegates by Dec. so this won't ever happen again :lol:
 
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