Donald Trump is running for president

RustyShackleford · Apr 5, 2016

X-Alt said:
LIONBLOOD said:

There's nothing intellectual about dude. He sounds like your average racist white southerner.

LOL @ the concept of slaves being exploited for being uneducated WTH kinda sense does that even make? Apparently science books were all that kept slaves from trying to run away or rebel, not the whole getting brutally beaten, castrated and hung part.

Masssa, I'm turning in my resignation papers at the end of the week. You know I been reading about the north and they got better benefits up there and I just don't think there's enough potential for advancement on this plantation.

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Many were sold off from their native Africa by greedy kings. You deny them education, and voila, the cycle of exploitation begins. There's been one successful slave revolt, and it's for a reason. I grew up in Chicago, not some racist deep south state.

I was trying to go in on that Rocky dude, but it was misinterpreted.

Yes, yes, yes, triple down on the ignorance.

x-alt · Apr 5, 2016

Rexanglorum said:
So, I would say that US schools do not suppress that slavery exists, they reframe it and interpret it so it does not contradict the American exceptionalism mythos.

As far as the map describing slaves as immigrant workers is concerned, that picture is real but it is getting major push back, even down in Texas, where it appears in their new History text books.

America basically rewrites history to go and cover up it's failures. Soon we will have books with "we went to Iraq and killed people, but hey we did this too because freedom".

RustyShackleford said:
Yes, yes, yes, triple down on the ignorance.

Belgium · Apr 5, 2016

X-Alt said:
Many were sold off from their native Africa by greedy kings. You deny them education, and voila, the cycle of exploitation begins There's been one successful slave revolt, and it's for a reason. As soon as people educate or self-educate themselves, especially the ones who know what it is to suffer, become moral role models for the rest, not talking about a science book here, but basic stuff anybody deserves.. It's really not that hard. Plus, you have people like blco that go and talk down the exploitation of Natives because "they have casinos now lol" but we shouldn't have treated them like garbage in the first place.

By the way, I grew up in Chicago, not some racist deep south state.

I was trying to go in on that Rocky dude, but it was misinterpreted. End of story.

Bruh. Just stop. Please.

x-alt · Apr 5, 2016

Colombia said:
Bruh. Just stop. Please.

Why should I stop, I'm not out here trying to roast or posting pictures of a Rover claiming that we should kill literally everybody? I respect your opinion and I don't show hatred towards any major/relevant culture.

ninjahood · Apr 5, 2016

RustyShackleford said:
ninjahood said:

RustyShackleford said:

http://www.nationalreview.com/donald-trump-master-of-tax-breaks

Inherited dads company, exploited tax laws to make money, used bankruptcy court to save himself from free market capitalism running him a fade

He did it all on this own doe.

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Brought to you by da folks that are salvaging their conservative power status cuz a Trump presidency would deem them irrelevant

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Attacking the messenger I see. And it is funny, I wonder when this is all said and done, and the National Review goes back to shading only liberals, if you will be this dismissive

You haven't been paying attention...

Trump Winning threatens da credibility of ALOT of people...not only does it threaten da power apparatus of Washington DC establishment Republicans, it hurts da credibility of da conservative intelligencia who's dismissed Trump as a joke EARLY..

For them their livelihoods is at stake..think about modern notoriety's accuracy at picking retro releases and how serious u take em after blowing a HUGE prediction..

Belgium · Apr 5, 2016

X-Alt said:
Why should I stop, I'm not out here trying to roast or posting pictures of a Rover claiming that we should literally everybody?

You're trying to run damage control but in the process you're just making it worse. The fact that you don't see what you're doing wrong here says enough.

The same thing is happening here as in the nazi discussion. You say something extremely ignorant, get called out and then you try to backpedal but instead spew more ignorance in the process. You don't seem to realize that either.

rexanglorum · Apr 5, 2016

That "Against Trump" National Review was a God damn joke. The pompous Royal purple and gold cover contains the names of the biggest boot lickers of the ruling class. These men have spent decades bashing minorities, immigrants and women and they have spent decades praising the super wealthy, laissez-faire economics, police brutality and a belligerent foreign policy.

Here comes Trump who says all the same things the National review says except he does it at a 3rd grade level instead of a post grad level.

I have had to learn the hard way, elaborate acts of circumlocution do not make racism, naivety and elitism any less damaging. Apparently, these aspiring John Galts at the National Review are yet to learn that although I can understand why, they make a very good living repackaging bad ideas. Trump has replaced the dog whistles with megaphones and it has the professional conservatives very worried that people will learn, through Trump, what conservatism is all about.

RustyShackleford · Apr 5, 2016

X-Alt said:
LIONBLOOD said:

There's nothing intellectual about dude. He sounds like your average racist white southerner.

LOL @ the concept of slaves being exploited for being uneducated WTH kinda sense does that even make? Apparently science books were all that kept slaves from trying to run away or rebel, not the whole getting brutally beaten, castrated and hung part.

Masssa, I'm turning in my resignation papers at the end of the week. You know I been reading about the north and they got better benefits up there and I just don't think there's enough potential for advancement on this plantation.

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Many were sold off from their native Africa by greedy kings. You deny them education, and voila, the cycle of exploitation begins There's been one successful slave revolt, and it's for a reason. As soon as people educate or self-educate themselves, especially the ones who know what it is to suffer, become moral role models for the rest, not talking about a science book here, but basic stuff anybody deserves.. It's really not that hard. Plus, you have people like blco that go and talk down the exploitation of Natives because "they have casinos now lol" but we shouldn't have treated them like garbage in the first place.

By the way, I grew up in Chicago, not some racist deep south state.

I was trying to go in on that Rocky dude, but it was misinterpreted. End of story.

Let point out in detail, how damb stupid you sound right now.

First off, lets remember this all started by you claiming America "was built on the backs of rich white guys". You ignore the slavery at first, you ignore the theft of land, you ignore all other contribution made by minority groups. Hell Rex even have you one of the most beautiful breakdowns I have ever seen about how America's infrastructure, specifically it's places of high education, where built on the backs of slave labor.

Yet you still ignore all this

Ok

Then when slavery is mentioned you in a round about way place the blame for slaves doing dirty jobs, remaining in bondage, and being overall oppression on "some greedy African Kings" and the slaves themselves for lacking education.

How where slaves suppose to "self -educate" themselves when that was by itself seen as a punishable crime in many places? How are they suppose to rise up against more well armed opponent? Even when a rebellion got big enough, large militia's would come in and quell them

But you ignore that.

Ok

Rich white slave owner perfected the art of control. Troubled slaves where dumped in the islands, family where separated, the many paid a large price if one slave got out of line, rich whites they pitted poor whites against slaves, and recruit slaves to inform them which slaves were "causing trouble".

Oppression caused the lack of education for slaves. Not the other way around.

-------You ignore slavery happened every where in America. Talking like it was some regional thing

And the town you come from Chicago, had slavery, and are some of the worst offenders of red lining.

You being from there doesn't absolve you or your words from being draped in ignorance.

x-alt · Apr 5, 2016

RustyShackleford said:
Let point out in detail, you damb stupid you sound right now.

First off, let remember this all started by claiming "was built on the backs of rich white guys". You ignore the slavery at first, you ignore the theft of land, you ignore all other contribution made by minority groups. Hell Rex even have you one of the most beutiful breakdown I have ever seen about how America's infrusture, especially the places of high education where built on the backs of slave labor.

Yet you still ignore all this

Ok

Then when slavery is mentioned you in a round about way place the blame for slaves doing dirty jobs, remaining in bondage, and being overall oppression on "some greedy African Kings" and the salves themselves for lacking education.

How where slaves suppose to "self -educate" themselves when that was by itself seen as a punishable crime in many places. How are they suppose to rise up against more well armed opponent, and even when a rebellion got big enough, large militia's would come in and quell them

But you ignore that.

Rich white slave owner perfected the art of control. Troubled slaves where dumped in the islands, family where separated, the many paid a large price if one got out of lines, they pitted poor whites against slaves, and recruit slaves to inform them who was causing trouble.

Oppression caused the lack of education for slaves. Not the other way around.
You ignore slavery happened every where in America. Talking like it was some regional thing

And the town you come from Chicago, had slavery, and are some of the worst offenders of red lining.

You being from there doesn't absolve you or your words from being draped in ignorance.

Absolutely, I'm apalled by the current police force and the crony Emanuel. It's bad backpedaling on my part @Colombia.

For the second time, I messed up. When you're opressed, there's very little you can do, that's why slavery is slavery.

RustyShackleford · Apr 5, 2016

ninjahood said:
RustyShackleford said:

ninjahood said:

RustyShackleford said:

http://www.nationalreview.com/donald-trump-master-of-tax-breaks

Inherited dads company, exploited tax laws to make money, used bankruptcy court to save himself from free market capitalism running him a fade

He did it all on this own doe.

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Brought to you by da folks that are salvaging their conservative power status cuz a Trump presidency would deem them irrelevant

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Attacking the messenger I see. And it is funny, I wonder when this is all said and done, and the National Review goes back to shading only liberals, if you will be this dismissive

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You haven't been paying attention...

Trump Winning threatens da credibility of ALOT of people...not only does it threaten da power apparatus of Washington DC establishment Republicans, it hurts da credibility of da conservative intelligencia who's dismissed Trump as a joke EARLY..

For them their livelihoods is at stake..think about modern notoriety's accuracy at picking retro releases and how serious u take em after blowing a HUGE prediction..

You use, and have used the talking points of the Republican Establishment all the damb time.

So please miss me with this notion at all of a sudden you find these people not credible :lol:

You showed no objection when conservative intellectuals they were attacking Obama, but now they are attacking your candidate of choice you wanna pull this "they ain't credible" schtick.

------------And Trump poses to these people is not that they will lose their credibility.

His major crime against conservative intellectuals is that he is exposing all the bigotry, white supremacy, xenophobia that is exist within the conservative base, even worst, he is focusing some of the anger the GOP and other conservatives have been cultivating for decades back at them.

Ever since the GOP started the Southern strategy, "well-educated"conservatives have known that they must speak in coded language to have some level of deniability.

So Trump is violating the number #1 law of conservatism, he is not hiding his bigotry.

That why they dislike him

Mark Antony · Apr 5, 2016

But he's "meta" though.

ninjahood · Apr 5, 2016

RustyShackleford said:
ninjahood said:

RustyShackleford said:

ninjahood said:

RustyShackleford said:

http://www.nationalreview.com/donald-trump-master-of-tax-breaks

Inherited dads company, exploited tax laws to make money, used bankruptcy court to save himself from free market capitalism running him a fade

He did it all on this own doe.

Click to expand...

Brought to you by da folks that are salvaging their conservative power status cuz a Trump presidency would deem them irrelevant

Click to expand...

Attacking the messenger I see. And it is funny, I wonder when this is all said and done, and the National Review goes back to shading only liberals, if you will be this dismissive

Click to expand...

You haven't been paying attention...

Trump Winning threatens da credibility of ALOT of people...not only does it threaten da power apparatus of Washington DC establishment Republicans, it hurts da credibility of da conservative intelligencia who's dismissed Trump as a joke EARLY..

For them their livelihoods is at stake..think about modern notoriety's accuracy at picking retro releases and how serious u take em after blowing a HUGE prediction..

Click to expand...

You use, and have used the talking points of the Republican Establishment all the damb time.

So please miss me with this notion at all of a sudden you find these people not credible

You showed no objection when conservative intellectuals they were attacking Obama, but now they are attacking your candidate of choice you wanna pull this "they ain't credible" schtick.

------------And Trump poses to these people is not that they will lose their credibility.

His major crime against conservative intellectuals is that he is exposing all the bigotry, white supremacy, xenophobia that is exist within the conservative base, even worst, he is focusing some of the anger the GOP and other conservatives have been cultivating for decades back at them.

Ever since the GOP started the Southern strategy, "well-educated"conservatives have known that they must speak in coded language to have some level of deniability.

And Trump is violating the number #1 law of conservatism, he is not hiding his bigotry.

That why they dislike him

Problem with rusty is in this election cycle you think you're winning or losing an argument because " your liberal ideology vs conservative ideology "

When in reality its closer to

[Video]

Da ruling class is bipartisan...

If Hillary wins, conservatives have a villan to write a paper about and make money...

If any of da Establishment GOP picks would've won its da sane thing in reverse...

Meanwhile both sides are cozy, rich, and insulated from da actual real world effects from either party's philosophy.

Trump is da ONLY guy outta everyone in da race that threatens this political game of thrones...

Its straight CIVIL WAR to stop Trump on da GOP side...u think they going this hard over "race"? :lol:

Only da left uses identity politics as a sustainable strategy b...

Hence y it doesn't matter who came out da winner...da DNC's playbook is to call em

" racist, sexist, bigot, homophobe" and scare da elderly wit entitlement reform..its da same playbook every year

When Rusty eventually has a outta body experience like alot of Independents do, he'll stop being ideologically rigid. And see politics da same meta way as i do.[/Video]

AEA18 · Apr 5, 2016

Meanwhile both sides are cozy, rich, and insulated from da actual real world effects from either party's philosophy.

Trump is da ONLY guy outta everyone in da race that threatens this political game of thrones...

:rofl:

RustyShackleford · Apr 5, 2016

I don't even know where to begin

-A matrix video, how original :lol:

-First off, you're confusing party affiliation with political ideology. Amateur mistake I know, but is you if gonna act like you're dropping facts, you should know the difference.

If you're not register with a political party dude, you're an independent, you can still be a conservative. Which you clearly are

You like like CL, and like so many before you think that saying "I'm an independent" makes your arguments hold more weight. And you delude yourself into thinking you're being bipartisan, you're not.

-Furthermore, the ruling class is not strictly bipartisan, nor is Trump a threat to their rule. It is much easier to exploit a country built on laissez-faire economy economic principles, as opposed to a socially democratic one. Or even one where the government falls on the center left.

-Trump is more that ready to accept the money of rich conservative donors, but you have your head in the sand ignoring the signs.

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And don't think this entire exchange was the deflect from the original point, that you only have a problem with the conservative "establishment" when the come at Trump.

You welcome their opinion all other times.

You can misdirect all you want, that truth still remains.

Master Zik · Apr 5, 2016

ninjahood said:
RustyShackleford said:

ninjahood said:

RustyShackleford said:

ninjahood said:

RustyShackleford said:

http://www.nationalreview.com/donald-trump-master-of-tax-breaks

Inherited dads company, exploited tax laws to make money, used bankruptcy court to save himself from free market capitalism running him a fade

He did it all on this own doe.

Click to expand...

Brought to you by da folks that are salvaging their conservative power status cuz a Trump presidency would deem them irrelevant

Click to expand...

Attacking the messenger I see. And it is funny, I wonder when this is all said and done, and the National Review goes back to shading only liberals, if you will be this dismissive

Click to expand...

You haven't been paying attention...

Trump Winning threatens da credibility of ALOT of people...not only does it threaten da power apparatus of Washington DC establishment Republicans, it hurts da credibility of da conservative intelligencia who's dismissed Trump as a joke EARLY..

For them their livelihoods is at stake..think about modern notoriety's accuracy at picking retro releases and how serious u take em after blowing a HUGE prediction..

Click to expand...

You use, and have used the talking points of the Republican Establishment all the damb time.

So please miss me with this notion at all of a sudden you find these people not credible

You showed no objection when conservative intellectuals they were attacking Obama, but now they are attacking your candidate of choice you wanna pull this "they ain't credible" schtick.

------------And Trump poses to these people is not that they will lose their credibility.

His major crime against conservative intellectuals is that he is exposing all the bigotry, white supremacy, xenophobia that is exist within the conservative base, even worst, he is focusing some of the anger the GOP and other conservatives have been cultivating for decades back at them.

Ever since the GOP started the Southern strategy, "well-educated"conservatives have known that they must speak in coded language to have some level of deniability.

And Trump is violating the number #1 law of conservatism, he is not hiding his bigotry.

That why they dislike him

Click to expand...

Problem with rusty is in this election cycle you think you're winning or losing an argument because " your liberal ideology vs conservative ideology "

When in reality its closer to

[Video]

Da ruling class is bipartisan...

If Hillary wins, conservatives have a villan to write a paper about and make money...

If any of da Establishment GOP picks would've won its da sane thing in reverse...

Meanwhile both sides are cozy, rich, and insulated from da actual real world effects from either party's philosophy.

Trump is da ONLY guy outta everyone in da race that threatens this political game of thrones...

Its straight CIVIL WAR to stop Trump on da GOP side...u think they going this hard over "race"?

Only da left uses identity politics as a sustainable strategy b...

Hence y it doesn't matter who came out da winner...da DNC's playbook is to call em

" racist, sexist, bigot, homophobe" and scare da elderly wit entitlement reform..its da same playbook every year

When Rusty eventually has a outta body experience like alot of Independents do, he'll stop being ideologically rigid. And see politics da same meta way as i do.[/Video]

[Video]
No he really doesn't threaten this political game.

As already mentioned at best he becomes president for 8 years, then he's gone and we get back to our regular scheduled programming if the country is still in one piece. Trump isn't smart enough and doesn't have enough money to change anything.

Not to mention, selling Trump as the only hope to get away from the same old bipartisan song is a great way to get ppl to stick with da establishment.[/video]

RustyShackleford · Apr 5, 2016

If he gets the nomination and the GOP starts raising money for him, I wonder what the new deflection will be about him not being establishment.

Trump is only pissed at the establishment because they turned on him, he was happily part of it as a donor for decades.

ninjahood · Apr 5, 2016

To be ideological means you subscribe to tenaments of da respective movements..

I think liberals are are just as bad as conservatives.

Rusty will call me a conservative because

Ill agree with a nonpartisan critique of a liberal, and yet if i critique bloc on a position in a non partisan way, but dont take a liberal position guess what?

Im still conservative to you.

Ya need eachother's ideology to be bogeyman.

Belgium · Apr 5, 2016

Rusty continues to prove he's the goat nt poster :pimp:

ninjahood · Apr 5, 2016

RustyShackleford said:
If he gets the nomination and the GOP starts raising money for him, I wonder what the new deflection will be about him not being establishment.

Trump is only pissed at the establishment because they turned on him, he was happily part of it as a donor for decades.

Being a donor to advance your business ≠ being a ideologue....

Even u should know this.

Da GOP Establishment is spending MILLIONS of dollars..not to stop Hillary, to stop Trump :lol:

One of da Koch brothers privately supporting Paul Ryan Parachuting in da convention if Trump dont lock up da delegates on da 1st Round.

Are u even paying attention to da GOP primaries Rusty? Its so crazy da Establishment is even thinking of running a 3rd party Candidate if Trump wins da nomination. Its THAT desperate for them to hold on to power.

160jordansdeep · Apr 5, 2016

@ninjahood

who are you voting for ?

rexanglorum · Apr 5, 2016

I love that Trump is breaking with the libertarian economic orthodoxy that most of the Conservative movement espouses. It is refreshing that he is expressing skepticism over unbridled neoliberalism.

It is also great to see Rand Paul and a few other GOP lawmakers, expressing criticism of the war on Drugs, asset forfeiture and police brutality and militarization.

However, to support these people is to make a Faustian bargain. We would get a little bit of economic populism or a little bit of relief from the carceral state in exchange for supporting White Supremacy. White Supremacy is the font of Economic inequality (for people of color and for white people as well) and our massive Prison Empire.

There are too many working class white guys who wan ta more equitable economy but couldn't care less about the plight of other people. There are too many libertarian bros who want legalized drugs and to neuter the police and yet they want that and only that.

If you want a fairer economy and a more sane approach to criminal justice, you have to attack the root of the problem and that root is white Supremacy. Backing conservatives who happen to be sane on an issue or two is counter productive because you can cut away the bitter fruit but you are buttressing the roots.

ninjahood · Apr 5, 2016

160jordansdeep said:
@ninjahood

who are you voting for ?

Really depends what happens...
If trump cant clinch da nomination da Establishment is railroading him for SURE.

Plus on da left, if bernie surpasses clinton in pledged delegates (its lookin like it He's winning Wisconsin & Hillary is COLLAPSING in NY) thats DEFINITELY headed to a convention and then da DNC idk if in that point will risk a REVOLT by blunting Bernie w/ superdelegates.

Outta everyone left Trump appeals to me da most.

He's da ONLY person addressing Trade andvatvda same time questioning da USA as da world's police.

ninjahood · Apr 5, 2016

Rexanglorum said:
I love that Trump is breaking with the libertarian economic orthodoxy that most of the Conservative movement espouses. It is refreshing that he is expressing skepticism over unbridled neoliberalism.

It is also great to see Rand Paul and a few other GOP lawmakers, expressing criticism of the war on Drugs, asset forfeiture and police brutality and militarization.

However, to support these people is to make a Faustian bargain. We would get a little bit of economic populism or a little bit of relief from the carceral state in exchange for supporting White Supremacy. White Supremacy is the font of Economic inequality (for people of color and for white people as well) and our massive Prison Empire.

There are too many working class white guys who wan ta more equitable economy but couldn't care less about the plight of other people. There are too many libertarian bros who want legalized drugs and to neuter the police and yet they want that and only that.

If you want a fairer economy and a more sane approach to criminal justice, you have to attack the root of the problem and that root is white Supremacy. Backing conservatives who happen to be sane on an issue or two is counter productive because you can cut away the bitter fruit but you are buttressing the roots.

I dont subscribe race playing that much into it tbh...

Its almost like everyone born after 89 got taught a helping serving size of racial indignation & resentment ...

CLASS plays a waaaay more impactful role than race...

Especially in 2016...

For example, where's all this white supremacy to trailer park backwoods country bumpkins who aint got a pot to piss in?

To paraphrase kanye, Sure you're still a n* in a benz...but YO..u in a BENZ thou, its easier to change your reality with money...poor whites? Here's what da GOP establishment thinks about em

http://dailycaller.com/2016/03/12/national-review-writer-working-class-communities-deserve-to-die/

National Review’s Kevin Williamson believes Donald Trump’s appeals to the white working class are “immoral” because that demographic’s way of life deserves to die out.

In a featured article for the prestigious conservative journal entitled “The Father-Fuhrer,” Williamson seeks to rebut criticism that he and other conservatives don’t articulate any policies that would appeal to Trump’s blue collar supporters

Rusty out here missing da whole fun camped at da liberal spectrum. :lol:

RustyShackleford · Apr 5, 2016

ninjahood said:
To be ideological means you subscribe to tenaments of da respective movements..

I think liberals are are just as bad as conservatives.

Rusty will call me a conservative because

Ill agree with a nonpartisan critique of a liberal, and yet if i critique bloc on a position in a non partisan way, but dont take a liberal position guess what?

Im still conservative to you.

Ya need eachother's ideology to be bogeyman.

Since you're keeping my name in your mouth. OK

On liberal v. conservative

Let us get one thing straight. I above all else believe in social justice, social equality, I'm a Keynesian, and borderline pacifist (leading with diplomacy and a big economic stick over sending people to war). That lands me on the left, being a liberal/progressive

I don't hate conservatism on paper. I hate the American conservative movement

There is not that says conservative have to be against social justice, equality, hawkish, or against a social safety net/

There is nothing inherently wrong with supporting classic capitalist economic ideologies, to say the US military should look out for people fighting for freedom across the world, to be a rubber banding force in social issues (telling people to remember the status quo).

But that is not what the current conservative movement in America is about. It is about white supremacy first and foremost. So many conservatives want to deny people social justice, what to send people off to war for any lil conflict, what to strip away the social safety net even though it is against their best interest, and they transforms form classical, Keynesian, or Austrian economist at a moments notice to defend their failed supply-side ideologies. Ignoring that doing so just furthers crony capitalism in America.

Many conservatives have taken ideologies from all over the place to try to make peace with white supremacy, that they can't keep them straight.

The current American conservative movement is dangerous; especially to minorities, black,s and poor whites.

Nowadays you will read about "white despair". That lower middle class whites are drinking, pill popping, injecting heroin, and shooting themselves to death. I throw modern American conservatism in their as just as toxic. I want it to go away not because I want to be right about some frivolous political debate, i want it to go away because it dangerous to a lot of people

I don't care take much if people become progressives, liberals, social democrats, libertarians, or moderates. Hell they can stay conservative, just be a healthy form of conservatism. And hopefully a more reasonable one

Be classic economist that preach the humanitarian efforts of the military are worth it being well funded (even if it comes to wars sometimes), suggest half measures on social issues that give people some relief from oppression, but keep the status quo.

I would still disagree with conservatives, I would find their ideology troubling, but not dangerous

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On you wanting to be "an independent"

I have shaded Obama, Clinton, and Sanders on NT. I'm still a liberal

Listen you don't see liberal running from that label on NT like you see conservatives. Because subconscious it is probably known that it would be in their best interest not to align themselves with all the white supremacy and nonsense of the right.

Same way a lot of Trump voters are keeping that to themselves

What you're pulling others have too, Rico, CL, Highness. Trying to avoid a label because it thinks it gives your argument more weight.

Hell someone even went as far to lie and say their state let them register as a "philosophical conservative" over a Republican, because he thought that make him sound unbiased.

Even when I present clear unbiased evidence on an issue (Trump being part of the establishment in the 80s, his bigotry, the whole Carbon tax thing, providing anecdotal evidence that contradicted yours in the views of immigrants), you deflect, you're dismissive, but now you want to claim that I need to be called out because i can't see past my ideology

These things are just a weak attempts to grab the intellectual high ground. To act like other opinions are clouded, but yours is pure.

That nonsense, so I'm not going to entertain you on that.

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Now gloves off.

You're a hypocrite, that can't keep track of his deflections. Plain and simple.

You claim me to be labeling people Conservative just as some sort of red herring attack. But you have used the term "leftist" derogatory to label liberals, go on about environmental extremist and feminist extremist.

You wanted to point out how the southern democrats started the KKK :rolleyes

, or when you tried to send every liberal on a guilt trip for supporting the murder of 8 month old fetuses (something that was pointed out happens probably less that .05% of all abortions). Even though you claim, you couldn't careless about social issues.

But most importantly, you wanted to send me on a moral guilt trip about being a progressive because "They support the Eugenics movement". And how could I align myself with that. All the while never acknowledging the obvious fact that modern progressives =/= the progressive movement of a century ago

NOT to mention, you telling me how can I call myself a liberal, proudly claim to be on the left, when so many dictators have been socialist.

With you, it is straw-men and red-herrings galore

You fail the same bull **** puirty test you trying to run on me.

So miss me with this BS. Period

ninjahood · Apr 5, 2016

When you put that much weight into white supremacy into what you think underpins conservatism, i feel you're not appreciating da nuances within it philosophies and you're ignoring minorities who have strived under conservatism.
I aint a conservative, cuz its not my forté, but for me to act like a dude like Clarence Thomas aint a winner in life espousing conservative principles would be short sighted of me and you to simply dismiss.

Alot of da "social justice" premise is "you were born a dark skinned person, America is UNFAIR, because you are who u you are you'll never get where u wanna be because USA hates minorities, it enslaved your ancestors, and built this country on stolen land

Vote Democrats because we'll make sure to give u__________because we know you can't get it yourself"

Its da presumption of low expectations that

URKS me.

As a independent thinker i frankly feel i dont owe any party or ideology any sort of loyalty, they gotta earn my vote EVERY cycle.

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