Donald Trump is running for president

frink85 said:
Nah, them foreigners/illegal immigrants are stealing our jobs! BUILD THE WALL.
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Funny thing is running into the fanatics who believe this think that all foreigners are brown or at least non-white. When I tell them that I was here illegally for 6 years because I overstayed by VIsa their eyes pop open. But that is what happens when you generalize, but they'll defend it by saying "yea but your situation is different!" Which always has be awe struck because I'm just dumb-founded how it's any different. :smh:

But I know what the real issue is...
 
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There's was no valid justification for the Iraq War, so the talking point is to deflect.

Instead of being honest and saying "Yeah the Bush's Iraq War was a mess, but I feel like Obama didn't clean up the mess properly"

But instead we get " Obama didn't clean up the mess properly"

How did the US get involved in the mess in first place?
 
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Biggie62 said:
We just just went through campus recruiting and they rather take someone with my background than your average American because they know we will try harder because we have more drive.
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Nah, them foreigners/illegal immigrants are stealing our jobs! BUILD THE WALL.
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Too late, fam. I'm already caking and putting my whole immigrant family on.
 
cubanref said:
What was the reasoning behind the US going into Iraq in the first place?
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cubanref said:
What was the reasoning behind the US going into Iraq in the first place?
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cubanref said:
What was the reasoning behind the US going into Iraq in the first place?
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cubanref said:
What was the reasoning behind the US going into Iraq in the first place?
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cubanref said:
What was the reasoning behind the US going into Iraq in the first place?
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Biggie62 said:
frink85 said:
Nah, them foreigners/illegal immigrants are stealing our jobs! BUILD THE WALL.
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Funny thing is running into the fanatics who believe this think that all foreigners are brown or at least non-white. When I tell them that I was here illegally for 6 years because I overstayed by VIsa their eyes pop open. But that is what happens when you generalize, but they'll defend it by saying "yea but your situation is different!" Which always has be awe struck because I'm just dumb-founded how it's any different. :smh:

But I know what the real issue is...
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Most definitely. Illegal immigrants from Europe!? Nahhhhhhh.....
 
cubanref said:
What does that have to do with my question?
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Why did Clinton have an affair with an intern which caused him to be preoccupied during the last two years of his presidency which took his eye off the ball of the growing Al Qaeda threat? Why did he refuse to take out Bin Laden in 98 when we had him in the crosshairs but 'ol Slick Willy was concerned that a few civilians might get killed?
 
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$tatus $ymbol $tatus $ymbol I dunno, ask Hillary Clinton and all the other Democrats who voted for the Iraq war. They would have done the same thing if they were in office. They all supported it.
 
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LIONBLOOD said:
frink85 said:
Nah, them foreigners/illegal immigrants are stealing our jobs! BUILD THE WALL.
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Just to elucidate how DUMB the demographic that supports this dude is, let's discuss the logistics of this so-called "WALL".


Trump is probably going to use his company to build it, but I guess none of his followers can see the conflict of interests here. :lol:


How long is this wall going to take to build....we're talking 100s of miles worth of construction here. In that 50 years it takes to build said wall (because we all know whoever succeeds him is going to continue the project), what's stopping Mexicans from flooding into the country to beat the so called closure of our borders?:lol:


Ok so in the time it takes to build the walls, we're going to have all of Mexico on this side, what are Trump's plans of chasing all the ones that slipped in back into Mexico? Mass deportation? Final solution? :nerd:


I'm assuming the wall is going to be made of Vibranium so no one can blow a hole through it once its built. :nerd:  



This is called higher order thinking, apparently there's a huge demographic of this country that is virtually incapable of that.



DISCUSS.
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All fax.

But at least the price tag will be covered, amirite?
 
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cubanref said:
What does that have to do with my question?
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Why did Clinton have an affair with an intern which caused him to be preoccupied during the last two years of his presidency which took his eye off the ball of the growing Al Qaeda threat? Why did he refuse to take out Bin Laden in 98 when we had him in the crosshairs but 'ol Slick Willy was concerned that a few civilians might get killed?
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So you answer my question by asking me questions? I don't know the answers to those questions and I honestly don't care. I asked you ONE simple question since you seem to have all of the answers...its the same act with you all the time man...
 
No you're doing the same deflection that you constantly accuse liberals of.

Thats part of reason, why things are how they are now.

Each side acting like they have a monopoly on common sense because of ideology.

Black or White thinking.
 
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I know, everyone in here deflecting Obamas pull out screw up by blaming Bush is pretty bad, right?
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So we're blaming Obama for pulling out, something he promised he'd do and something many republicans and democrats wanted since they wanted our troops home when it was the Bush administration who went there under false and illegal pretenses? Violating UN Charter?


blco02 said:
$tatus $ymbol $tatus $ymbol I dunno, ask Hillary Clinton and all the other Democrats who voted for the Iraq war. They would have done the same thing if they were in office. They all supported it.
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And we're blaming Clinton and the democrats when they went off intel provided to them by the Bush admin? The same Bush administration that lied about WMDs?



Oh....Okay. Just double checking.



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cubanref said:
So you answer my question by asking me questions? I don't know the answers to those questions and I honestly don't care. I asked you ONE simple question since you seem to have all of the answers...its the same act with you all the time man...
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I'll probably be supporting Trump next year, he was against the Iraq war. 99% of you all will be voting for Hillary, she voted for the war.

Why are you asking me about Iraq? Ask your fellow liberals :lol: they're supporting someone who actually wanted the war.
 
Mister Friendly said:
No you're doing the same deflection that you constantly accuse liberals of.

Thats part of reason, why things are how they are now.

Each side acting like they have a monopoly on common sense because of ideology.

Black or White thinking.
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:rofl: Even mister friendly mister friendly says you're deflecting blco02 blco02 . And he went a hunnid pages deflecting in the Arian Foster thread.


Bruh, the title is on the line. :lol:
 
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LIONBLOOD said:
Just to elucidate how DUMB the demographic that supports this dude is, let's discuss the logistics of this so-called "WALL".


Trump is probably going to use his company to build it, but I guess none of his followers can see the conflict of interests here. :lol:


How long is this wall going to take to build....we're talking 100s of miles worth of construction here. In that 50 years it takes to build said wall (because we all know whoever succeeds him is going to continue the project), what's stopping Mexicans from flooding into the country to beat the so called closure of our borders?:lol:


Ok so in the time it takes to build the walls, we're going to have all of Mexico on this side, what are Trump's plans of chasing all the ones that slipped in back into Mexico (Because we know he's bout to rule the country for the next 50 years? Mass deportation? Final solution? :nerd:


I'm assuming the wall is going to be made of Vibranium so no one can blow a hole through it once its built. :nerd:  



This is called higher order thinking, apparently there's a huge demographic of this country that is virtually incapable of that.



DISCUSS.
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:rofl: I keep asking this question of people but I always get "Trump built Casinos, he'll find a way to do this because he's a business mogul." And of course I always scratch my head asking myself exactly how does this convert into politics where compromise is needed rather than the brash "**** you, it's my way or the highway" approach that Trump is known for.
 
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cubanref said:
So you answer my question by asking me questions? I don't know the answers to those questions and I honestly don't care. I asked you ONE simple question since you seem to have all of the answers...its the same act with you all the time man...
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I'll probably be supporting Trump next year, he was against the Iraq war. 99% of you all will be voting for Hillary, she voted for the war.

Why are you asking me about Iraq? Ask your fellow liberals :lol: they're supporting someone who actually wanted the war.
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I asked you about the war in Iraq because you seemed fixated that the US pulled out too early and left a void in the Middle East, creating what is now ISIS.

So do you support banning all Muslims from entering the US as well?
 
1.) The US should not be caping for other countries. They should have a strong military that can be deployed only when US borders are directly violated.

2.) If the US needs to go to war (because its borders were directly violated), go over there, kill the necessary people, and go home. The US shouldn't be staying there for prolonged periods of time.

Iraq was a mess and unfortunately, it's now engendered ISIS. Now the cycle continues with us getting involved again.
 
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cubanref said:
I asked you about the war in Iraq because you seemed fixated that the US pulled out too early and left a void in the Middle East, creating what is now ISIS.

So do you support banning all Muslims from entering the US as well?
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:nerd:



Let's see how he weasels his way out of answering this one.
 
Slighted said:
1.) The US should not be caping for other countries. They should have a strong military that can be deployed only when US borders are directly violated.
2.) If the US needs to go to war (because its borders were directly violated), go over there, kill the necessary people, and go home. The US shouldn't be staying there for prolonged periods of time.

Iraq was a mess and unfortunately, it's now engendered ISIS. Now the cycle continues with us getting involved again.
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Bless your heart
 
GWAP said:
 
Slighted said:
1.) The US should not be caping for other countries. They should have a strong military that can be deployed only when US borders are directly violated.
2.) If the US needs to go to war (because its borders were directly violated), go over there, kill the necessary people, and go home. The US shouldn't be staying there for prolonged periods of time.

Iraq was a mess and unfortunately, it's now engendered ISIS. Now the cycle continues with us getting involved again.
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Bless your heart
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Elaborate, fam. Should the US be getting involved everywhere?

Let me know what you think; dialogue is good.
 
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blco02 said:
We pulled out of Iraq just like every liberal and many conservatives wanted. ISIS is now taking over.

The world is a disaster guys. I'm sorry if you can't see it. The Obama/Clinton/Kerry foreign policy is a total joke. It will be a huge liability for Hillary. Let's not even talk about Hillary's "reset button" with Russia. What a backfire that was.
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I hope you at least served in the Middle East.
 
Slighted said:
1.) The US should not be caping for other countries. They should have a strong military that can be deployed only when US borders are directly violated.
2.) If the US needs to go to war (because its borders were directly violated), go over there, kill the necessary people, and go home. The US shouldn't be staying there for prolonged periods of time.

Iraq was a mess and unfortunately, it's now engendered ISIS. Now the cycle continues with us getting involved again.
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I agree. I've been leaning towards isolationist views, but in the back of my mind I know it's unreasonable I just can't put my finger on specifically why.

It bugs me so how many people vote for "boots on the ground" and slam Obama for taking a hands off approach like dog, this isn't a game troops get killed out there and you're throwing them around like playing cards.
 
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