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Poll Results: Who would be a better president?

 
  • 70% (82)
    Hillary Clinton
  • 29% (34)
    Donald Trump
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For the Drumpf supporters here:

- Are you pro-life?

- How do you feel about his position on Japan and South Korea getting nukes and backing us out?

- When was "America Great"? 

-Im agnostic about abortion rights TBH..umm
Technically im prochoice, but anything after 20 weeks should be restricted...so many preventive things could've been done to avoid being in that position

-that would actually been beneficial IMO in keeping China & North Korea honest in da south China sea. Save us some damn money We dont gotta be da world's police.

-America used to be undisputed Great when 1 man could be da breadwinner and have a house, car, a wife & kids..post World War II, when **** like da National Highway system was created and public works projects were grandiose.

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For the Drumpf supporters here:

- Are you pro-life?

- How do you feel about his position on Japan and South Korea getting nukes and backing us out?

- When was "America Great"? 

-Im agnostic about abortion rights TBH..umm
Technically im prochoice, but anything after 20 weeks should be restricted...so many preventive things could've been done to avoid being in that position

-that would actually been beneficial IMO in keeping China & North Korea honest in da south China sea. Save us some damn money We dont gotta be da world's police.

-America used to be undisputed Great when 1 man could be da breadwinner and have a house, car, a wife & kids..post World War II, when **** like da National Highway system was created and public works projects were grandiose.
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Basically the 1950s

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post #4503 of 7786
Yes the 1950s, before the Civil Rights Acts was signed.

That's when America was great mean.giflaugh.gif
post #4504 of 7786
I don't understand how some people can be so perpetual in advocating abortion but at the same time disprove of the death penalty. Makes no sense to meee
post #4505 of 7786
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Yes the 1950s, before the Civil Rights Acts was signed.

That's when America was great mean.giflaugh.gif

Fam really thinks whites wouldn't accepted him and let them drink outta their water fountain back then laugh.gif

Dude darker than me talking about the 50's was when America was great. laugh.gif
post #4506 of 7786
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I don't understand how some people can be so perpetual in advocating abortion but at the same time disprove of the death penalty. Makes no sense to meee
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The death penalty deals with executing criminals who have been convicted of seriously heinous crimes and tend to cost a great deal. One execution is probably worth 100 abortions (I'm just saying that, might be even more). Money aside, the justice system in this country is corrupt and even if it wasn't it doesn't get the right guy every time. Similar to Gitmo where you're torturing innocent guys just for being Muslim or middle eastern and have no ties to terrorism or even crime, do you really want to kill a person who may have ended up being innocent of the crime that lands them on death row?

Capitol punishment is an absolute final act based off of what's proven in a court of law that can not be reversed. Abortion is a final act that is the choice of the female that is only based on the female deciding to have it done. You gotta see the distinction here.

You gotta think about the implications man. That's how it makes sense. It's far more serious than the implications involving abortion.

If you could tell me there was a guarantee it wouldn't cost a lot and that every person on death row was guilty, I'd be all for capitol punishment.
post #4507 of 7786
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Yes the 1950s, before the Civil Rights Acts was signed.

That's when America was great mean.giflaugh.gif

Fam really thinks whites wouldn't accepted him and let them drink outta their water fountain back then laugh.gif

Dude darker than me talking about the 50's was when America was great. laugh.gif

Dude is so lost. mean.gif

He wouldn't even be allowed to live in his beloved Washington Heights back then.

"During the 1950s and 1960s, many Greeks moved to Washington Heights; the community was referred to as the "Astoria of Manhattan."

Would have been chased out da neighborhood but it was so great back then eyes.gif
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post #4508 of 7786
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Yes the 1950s, before the Civil Rights Acts was signed.

That's when America was great mean.giflaugh.gif

Yo watch a documentary on Robert Moses, and his influence on modern transportation..i know civil rights was obviously important, but that was percolating already..JFK
Had it in da plans.

Dont be so quick to dismiss an era that essentially laid da blueprint to modern times now.

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Yo watch a documentary on Robert Moses, and his influence on modern transportation..i know civil rights was obviously important, but that was percolating already..JFK
Had it in da plans.

Dont be so quick to dismiss an era that essentially laid da blueprint to modern times now.

name of doc?
post #4510 of 7786
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Yes the 1950s, before the Civil Rights Acts was signed.

That's when America was great mean.giflaugh.gif

Fam really thinks whites wouldn't accepted him and let them drink outta their water fountain back then laugh.gif

Dude darker than me talking about the 50's was when America was great. laugh.gif

Da outward growth on viewing America thru a racial lense skews ya too much.

Im being straight up objective...DR when my mom was lil was a piece of dirt in da Caribbean ran by a dictator..Americans was knee deep in da space age.

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post #4511 of 7786
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Yes the 1950s, before the Civil Rights Acts was signed.

That's when America was great mean.giflaugh.gif

Yo watch a documentary on Robert Moses, and his influence on modern transportation..i know civil rights was obviously important, but that was percolating already..JFK
Had it in da plans.

Dont be so quick to dismiss an era that essentially laid da blueprint to modern times now.
Moses did a lot great things getting roads, highways, parks, etc. built in NY when it was most needed. He'd probably scoff at how long the freedom tower took to be built. Dude was among the best at the time and has his place in history but city planning is not the most important problem this country has to face and hey if you actually do feel that's more important then there's a bigger problem here.

I'd love for that kind of work ethic and efficiency to be brought back to NYC but all you're doing is highlighting the pros of that period, ignoring the cons. The 50s and 60s were fraught with racism and misogyny.

Your sentiment almost has a sexist bent to it the way you mention the man being the breadwinner which implies the women isn't and then you're wondering if she's even working or forced to be a stay at home mom.

Lots of problems with the era you're claiming was when America was great.
post #4512 of 7786
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Yes the 1950s, before the Civil Rights Acts was signed.

That's when America was great mean.giflaugh.gif

Sneak Marxism / Totalitarian advocation? I think so
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The death penalty deals with executing criminals who have been convicted of seriously heinous crimes and tend to cost a great deal. One execution is probably worth 100 abortions (I'm just saying that, might be even more). Money aside, the justice system in this country is corrupt and even if it wasn't it doesn't get the right guy every time. Similar to Gitmo where you're torturing innocent guys just for being Muslim or middle eastern do you really want to kill a person who may have ended up being innocent of the crime that lands them on death row?

You gotta think about the implications man. That's how it makes sense. It's far more serious than the implications involving abortion.

If you could tell me there was a guarantee it wouldn't cost a lot and that every person on death row was guilty, I'd be all for capitol punishment.

Gitmo. The place where we house war criminals and terroristic masterminds is the same place we torture innocent Muslims? I'm sorry I don't agree with you. Having family members in the armed forces that fought multiple tours in the Middle East have painted the very vivid picture of what life is like out there and from what I've heard it isn't pretty. They obviously have this type of establishment for a reason and advocating it is used to torture innocent humans is asinine when looking at the reality of what is going on in the world today.
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Yo watch a documentary on Robert Moses, and his influence on modern transportation..i know civil rights was obviously important, but that was percolating already..JFK
Had it in da plans.

Dont be so quick to dismiss an era that essentially laid da blueprint to modern times now.

name of doc?

American Experience: a World That Moses Built.

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post #4514 of 7786
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Da outward growth on viewing America thru a racial lense skews ya too much.

Im being straight up objective...DR when my mom was lil was a piece of dirt in da Caribbean ran by a dictator..Americans was knee deep in da space age.

my mom is from MS and was born in the 1950s.........


she has told me stories that would make me hate white people but that isn't the case sick.gif

gonna look up the doc, thanks
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Yes the 1950s, before the Civil Rights Acts was signed.

That's when America was great mean.giflaugh.gif

Sneak Marxism / Totalitarian advocation? I think so
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The death penalty deals with executing criminals who have been convicted of seriously heinous crimes and tend to cost a great deal. One execution is probably worth 100 abortions (I'm just saying that, might be even more). Money aside, the justice system in this country is corrupt and even if it wasn't it doesn't get the right guy every time. Similar to Gitmo where you're torturing innocent guys just for being Muslim or middle eastern do you really want to kill a person who may have ended up being innocent of the crime that lands them on death row?

You gotta think about the implications man. That's how it makes sense. It's far more serious than the implications involving abortion.

If you could tell me there was a guarantee it wouldn't cost a lot and that every person on death row was guilty, I'd be all for capitol punishment.

Gitmo.. The place where we house war criminals and terroristic masterminds is the same place we torture innocent Muslims? I'm sorry I don't agree with you. Having family members of the armed forces that fought multiple tours in the Middle East have painted the very vivid picture of what life is like out there and from what I've heard it isn't pretty. They obviously have this type of establishment for a reason and advocating it is used to torture innocent humans is asinine when looking at the reality of what is going on in the world today.
So are you saying I'm lying or that it isn't true that ppl who have no ties to terrorism have been detained and tortured since 9/11?

Murat Kurnaz

Also you really are trying to tangent here since Gitmo was just an example for capitol punishment meaning you may execute a person wrongly convicted. Miss me with all your family members in the armed forces. Stay on point given being pro choice and against capitol punishment somehow doesn't make sense to you.

Do you think the execution of a person who did not commit a heinous crime is acceptable as an American? If so you must have the complexion for the protection.
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Let me find out.

I'll stop paying attention to the plastic bag blowing in the wind with the quickness.
post #4518 of 7786
I believe our justice system has been right more then wrong if that's what you are alluring to
post #4519 of 7786
Death penalty is something that iiiite...but all that new DNA evidence should ALWAYS be used, even retroactively, u never wanna convict a innocent man.

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I believe our justice system has been right more then wrong if that's what you are alluring to
No. I'm not "alluring" to anything. I asked you:

Do you think the execution of a person who did not commit a heinous crime is acceptable as an American?

If the answer is yes then your corrupted. Kinda hard to value life if you're willing to accept innocent lives being executed because you want to make sure criminals die.

The justice system should not be a #s game. It shouldn't have to be right more then it is wrong. It's a complete failure of justice to accept that. The system becomes meaningless that way.
Edited by Master Zik - 4/1/16 at 9:37pm
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Yes the 1950s, before the Civil Rights Acts was signed.

That's when America was great mean.giflaugh.gif

Yo watch a documentary on Robert Moses, and his influence on modern transportation..i know civil rights was obviously important, but that was percolating already..JFK
Had it in da plans.

Dont be so quick to dismiss an era that essentially laid da blueprint to modern times now.
Moses did a lot great things getting roads, highways, parks, etc. built in NY when it was most needed. He'd probably scoff at how long the freedom tower took to be built. Dude was among the best at the time and has his place in history but city planning is not the most important problem this country has to face and hey if you actually do feel that's more important then there's a bigger problem here.

I'd love for that kind of work ethic and efficiency to be brought back to NYC but all you're doing is highlighting the pros of that period, ignoring the cons. The 50s and 60s were fraught with racism and misogyny.

Your sentiment almost has a sexist bent to it the way you mention the man being the breadwinner which implies the women isn't and then you're wondering if she's even working or forced to be a stay at home mom.

Lots of problems with the era you're claiming was when America was great.

It implies da money was so good only 1 person HAD to work.

Try that in 2016 mean.giflaugh.gif

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post #4522 of 7786
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Death penalty is something that iiiite...but all that new DNA evidence should ALWAYS be used, even retroactively, u never wanna convict a innocent man.
It's a shame even today so many courts across the country deny appeals with DNA evidence just lengthening the stay of innocent ppl in prison.

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Since 1973, 144 people on death row have been exonerated. As a percentage of all death sentences, that's just 1.6 percent. But if the innocence rate is 4.1 percent, more than twice the rate of exoneration, the study suggests what most people assumed but dreaded: An untold number of innocent people have been executed
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We will never know for sure, but the few studies that have been done estimate that between 2.3% and 5% of all prisoners in the U.S. are innocent (for context, if just 1% of all prisoners are innocent, that would mean that more than 20,000 innocent people are in prison).

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Yes the 1950s, before the Civil Rights Acts was signed.

That's when America was great mean.giflaugh.gif

Yo watch a documentary on Robert Moses, and his influence on modern transportation..i know civil rights was obviously important, but that was percolating already..JFK
Had it in da plans.

Dont be so quick to dismiss an era that essentially laid da blueprint to modern times now.
Moses did a lot great things getting roads, highways, parks, etc. built in NY when it was most needed. He'd probably scoff at how long the freedom tower took to be built. Dude was among the best at the time and has his place in history but city planning is not the most important problem this country has to face and hey if you actually do feel that's more important then there's a bigger problem here.

I'd love for that kind of work ethic and efficiency to be brought back to NYC but all you're doing is highlighting the pros of that period, ignoring the cons. The 50s and 60s were fraught with racism and misogyny.

Your sentiment almost has a sexist bent to it the way you mention the man being the breadwinner which implies the women isn't and then you're wondering if she's even working or forced to be a stay at home mom.

Lots of problems with the era you're claiming was when America was great.

It implies da money was so good only 1 person HAD to work.

Try that in 2016 mean.giflaugh.gif
laugh.gif Really? So if the wife wants to work what then?

Life isn't about what you're willing to settle for. It's not I don't have to do _____ so I won't.

What happened to da pursuit of happiness ninja?
post #4523 of 7786
I swear some people have an irrational hate for this country. The can't even admit when times were good. Gotta find something to divide us about even regarding the good times.
post #4524 of 7786
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Death penalty is something that iiiite...but all that new DNA evidence should ALWAYS be used, even retroactively, u never wanna convict a innocent man.
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Yes the 1950s, before the Civil Rights Acts was signed.

That's when America was great mean.giflaugh.gif

Yo watch a documentary on Robert Moses, and his influence on modern transportation..i know civil rights was obviously important, but that was percolating already..JFK
Had it in da plans.

Dont be so quick to dismiss an era that essentially laid da blueprint to modern times now.
Moses did a lot great things getting roads, highways, parks, etc. built in NY when it was most needed. He'd probably scoff at how long the freedom tower took to be built. Dude was among the best at the time and has his place in history but city planning is not the most important problem this country has to face and hey if you actually do feel that's more important then there's a bigger problem here.

I'd love for that kind of work ethic and efficiency to be brought back to NYC but all you're doing is highlighting the pros of that period, ignoring the cons. The 50s and 60s were fraught with racism and misogyny.

Your sentiment almost has a sexist bent to it the way you mention the man being the breadwinner which implies the women isn't and then you're wondering if she's even working or forced to be a stay at home mom.

Lots of problems with the era you're claiming was when America was great.

It implies da money was so good only 1 person HAD to work.

Try that in 2016 mean.giflaugh.gif
laugh.gif Really? So if the wife wants to work what then?

Life isn't about what you're willing to settle for. It's not I don't have to do _____ so I won't.

What happened to da pursuit of happiness ninja?

U acting like women didn't work though...

Da original mustang V6 was billed a secretary car..

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post #4525 of 7786
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Death penalty is something that iiiite...but all that new DNA evidence should ALWAYS be used, even retroactively, u never wanna convict a innocent man.
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Yes the 1950s, before the Civil Rights Acts was signed.

That's when America was great mean.giflaugh.gif

Yo watch a documentary on Robert Moses, and his influence on modern transportation..i know civil rights was obviously important, but that was percolating already..JFK
Had it in da plans.

Dont be so quick to dismiss an era that essentially laid da blueprint to modern times now.
Moses did a lot great things getting roads, highways, parks, etc. built in NY when it was most needed. He'd probably scoff at how long the freedom tower took to be built. Dude was among the best at the time and has his place in history but city planning is not the most important problem this country has to face and hey if you actually do feel that's more important then there's a bigger problem here.

I'd love for that kind of work ethic and efficiency to be brought back to NYC but all you're doing is highlighting the pros of that period, ignoring the cons. The 50s and 60s were fraught with racism and misogyny.

Your sentiment almost has a sexist bent to it the way you mention the man being the breadwinner which implies the women isn't and then you're wondering if she's even working or forced to be a stay at home mom.

Lots of problems with the era you're claiming was when America was great.

It implies da money was so good only 1 person HAD to work.

Try that in 2016 mean.giflaugh.gif
laugh.gif Really? So if the wife wants to work what then?

Life isn't about what you're willing to settle for. It's not I don't have to do _____ so I won't.

What happened to da pursuit of happiness ninja?

U acting like women didn't work though...


Da original mustang V6 was billed a secretary car..
laugh.gif No I'm not. So now we gonna pretend like women's rights weren't being fought for?

Like there wasn't a focus and reawakening for the women's movement in the 60s? Like there are some things a woman straight up couldn't do in the 50s compared to the 60s?

If you gonna look back to a period when America was "great" you seriously need to consider EVERYTHING about that time period. Not just the nice things you like.

At this point you sounding like city planning > civil rights.
Edited by Master Zik - 4/1/16 at 9:25pm
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I swear some people have an irrational hate for this country. The can't even admit when times were good. Gotta find something to divide us about even regarding the good times.

 

What you don't get is that it was never the good times for everyone. Some groups have always been having a terrible time throughout history to the present in this country. Talking about that isn't dividing or being hateful its being honest about whats been going on and still goes on.

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What you don't get is that it was never the good times for everyone. Some groups have always been having a terrible time throughout history to the present in this country. Talking about that isn't dividing or being hateful its being honest about whats been going on and still goes on.

Then leave. We don't have walls keeping people in like communist/socialist hell holes do.
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What you don't get is that it was never the good times for everyone. Some groups have always been having a terrible time throughout history to the present in this country. Talking about that isn't dividing or being hateful its being honest about whats been going on and still goes on.

Then leave.


There would be no point in that because no where in the world is perfect so I think ill just stay in the country I was born and raised in and try to make it a better place than be ran out by people like you.

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laugh.gif that's what I thought
post #4530 of 7786

No no its not :lol

 

Dude you didn't even make a counter point or anything :lol what kind of nonsense is that. Instead of acknowledging the point I made and try to have a honest discussion you just told me to leave the country :lol

 

**** outta here with that bull****.

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"Democracy isn't a spectator sport"

 

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