Donald Trump is running for president

ninjahood said:
Mark Antony said:
Why is abortion important to a male? Why is invasion of privacy important to someone with nothing to hide?
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How u would you like it if a chick u got

Pregnant and was gonna have ur son decided

She had enuff of you for w/e reason and was

Gonna terminate a 8 month trimester

pregnancy? Are u not as a father willing to

Hold any kind of objection to that?

Late term abortion is flat out murder...

Im pro choice sure, but there'sNO REASON laws should allow a viable baby fetus that stage in pregnancy to be termniated.

Partial-Birth_Abortion1.jpg
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So just to expand this further. If the girl doesn't want to take care of the child and neither do you, you would rather the kid go through the system and be an orphan? Yea, I don't know if you actually allow the kid to live and enjoy life having to go through that...

Both choices are screwed up really. In reality though, abortions in the 3rd trimester are so rare that I don't understand why they would be even a major talking point. It's like the pro-life people who tried to make abortion clinics seem bad by selling cells on the black market which was proven false. Don't take something that's rare and extreme case and then make it seem like it's a prevalent problem when it really isn't.
 
Diego said:
Mark Antony said:
Have a problem with the 1% and wall street's influence on policy... Vote for the NYC billionaire plutocrat. Makes sense, he's da outsider. Pretend to be objective and "meta" all you want when these red flags are staring you in the face. **** it, I hope he wins, America has shown that they deserve every bit of what's to come.
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You talking like Hillary wouldn't also be part of that 1%.
She built her fortune from all her years in Politcs. That's a lot of favors she's expected to payback after all these years.
I've always expected a businessman to be shrewd, Trump ain't doing nothing I wouldn't expect from a businessman.
Hillary though, she could be a real life Claire Underwood for all I know...I'm just not rocking with her.
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Did I mention Hilary? She's a seasoned politician with special interests that includes wall street, all of that is out there. But the better alternative in that area is again, a NYC plutocrat? If you believe that, then Bloomberg wasn't pandering to them either.
ninjahood said:
Mark Antony said:
Why is abortion important to a male? Why is invasion of privacy important to someone with nothing to hide?
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How u would you like it if a chick u got

Pregnant and was gonna have ur son decided

She had enuff of you for w/e reason and was

Gonna terminate a 8 month trimester

pregnancy? Are u not as a father willing to

Hold any kind of objection to that?

Late term abortion is flat out murder...

Im pro choice sure, but there'sNO REASON laws should allow a viable baby fetus that stage in pregnancy to be termniated.

Partial-Birth_Abortion1.jpg
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I have no objections to early trimester limits, just pro lifers.
 
Biggie62 said:
So just to expand this further. If the girl doesn't want to take care of the child and neither do you, you would rather the kid go through the system and be an orphan? Yea, I don't know if you actually allow the kid to live and enjoy life having to go through that...

Both choices are screwed up really. In reality though, abortions in the 3rd trimester are so rare that I don't understand why they would be even a major talking point. It's like the pro-life people who tried to make abortion clinics seem bad by selling cells on the black market which was proven false. Don't take something that's rare and extreme case and then make it seem like it's a prevalent problem when it really isn't.
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At the end of the day, nobody's touching abortion. Reagan tried so hard but never really succeeded. Sure you'll have states like Indiana that try 1940's abortion laws, but it's only a matter of time before the Supreme Court strikes it down. I'd rather have the rare late term abortion than 50000 babies adopted by some crazy people.
 
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ninjahood said:
Mark Antony said:
Why is abortion important to a male? Why is invasion of privacy important to someone with nothing to hide?
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How u would you like it if a chick u got

Pregnant and was gonna have ur son decided

She had enuff of you for w/e reason and was

Gonna terminate a 8 month trimester

pregnancy? Are u not as a father willing to

Hold any kind of objection to that?

Late term abortion is flat out murder...

Im pro choice sure, but there'sNO REASON laws should allow a viable baby fetus that stage in pregnancy to be termniated.

Partial-Birth_Abortion1.jpg
Click to expand...

If shorty made the decision that she don't want to deal with your **** no more and don't want your child, the future of being a happy family ain't looking too bright.

She also didn't need 8 months of pregnancy to make this realization.
How common are late abortions anyways? What percentage of all abortions is this?

Or are we using late term just to be more sensational on this topic?
 
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If the girl doesn't want to take care of the child and neither do you, you would rather the kid go through the system and be an orphan? Yea, I don't know if you actually allow the kid to live and enjoy life having to go through that...
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Adoption?
 
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Diego said:
If shorty made the decision that she don't want to deal with your **** no more and don't want your child, the future of being a happy family ain't looking too bright.

She also didn't need 8 months of pregnancy to make this realization.
How common are late abortions anyways? What percentage of all abortions is this?

Or are we just using late term just to be more sensational on this topic?
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Of all the abortions, it's about 1%
 
Diego said:
If shorty made the decision that she don't want to deal with your **** no more and don't want your child, the future of being a happy family ain't looking too bright.

She also didn't need 8 months of pregnancy to make this realization.
How common are late abortions anyways? What percentage of all abortions is this?

Or are we just using late term just to be more sensational on this topic?
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Late terms are pretty gnarly, but it's the easiest way to get the point across. In my book, 4-5 months or have the damn baby and make sure a nutjob doesn't adopt him/her. But luckily they're rare. Some dudes still deny day after pills for rape, that's a real crime.
 
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Pdino said:
Diego said:
If shorty made the decision that she don't want to deal with your **** no more and don't want your child, the future of being a happy family ain't looking too bright.


She also didn't need 8 months of pregnancy to make this realization.

How common are late abortions anyways? What percentage of all abortions is this?


Or are we just using late term just to be more sensational on this topic?
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Of all the abortions, it's about 1%
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Jesus Christ man.
 
Diego said:
ninjahood said:
Mark Antony said:
Why is abortion important to a male? Why is invasion of privacy important to someone with nothing to hide?
Click to expand...

How u would you like it if a chick u got

Pregnant and was gonna have ur son decided

She had enuff of you for w/e reason and was

Gonna terminate a 8 month trimester

pregnancy? Are u not as a father willing to

Hold any kind of objection to that?

Late term abortion is flat out murder...

Im pro choice sure, but there'sNO REASON laws should allow a viable baby fetus that stage in pregnancy to be termniated.

Partial-Birth_Abortion1.jpg
Click to expand...

If shorty made the decision that she don't want to deal with your **** no more and don't want your child, the future of being a happy family ain't looking too bright.

She also didn't need 8 months of pregnancy to make this realization.
How common are late abortions anyways? What percentage of all abortions is this?

Or are we just using late term just to be more sensational on this topic?
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To me it is a more sensational topic. These types of abortions usually occur because after doing a blood test and ultrasound some sort of genetic defect is discovered in the fetus or it's shown that the mother is at high risk of dying during birth for one reason or another.

I would say less than 10% of these abortions if even that high would be by women who say screw it I'm just aborting because I just don't want it. That above cases I mention are legit reasons to abort. Lose a life for a life isn't cool and giving birth to a child you may never be able to support financially or because the kid will never have a normal life isn't fair either. We can argue who are we to make this decision but this argument can be expanded to so many other things such as capital punishments and such. And we'd be split on that as well depending on the specific topic.
 
Mark Antony said:
Pdino said:
Diego said:
If shorty made the decision that she don't want to deal with your **** no more and don't want your child, the future of being a happy family ain't looking too bright.


She also didn't need 8 months of pregnancy to make this realization.

How common are late abortions anyways? What percentage of all abortions is this?


Or are we just using late term just to be more sensational on this topic?
Click to expand...


Of all the abortions, it's about 1%
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Jesus Christ man.
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1% of

Say 825,564 (da number of reported abortions

To da center of disease control in 2008)

Is still 8,255 babies being murdered if these

Were all viable fetuses...
 
ninjahood said:
1% of

Say 825,564 (da number of reported abortions

To da center of disease control in 2008)

Is still 8,255 babies being murdered if these

Were all viable fetuses...
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Still a substantial number. I still prefer that over babies being adopted by nutcases.
 
Mark Antony said:
Diego said:
Mark Antony said:
Have a problem with the 1% and wall street's influence on policy... Vote for the NYC billionaire plutocrat. Makes sense, he's da outsider. Pretend to be objective and "meta" all you want when these red flags are staring you in the face. **** it, I hope he wins, America has shown that they deserve every bit of what's to come.
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You talking like Hillary wouldn't also be part of that 1%.
She built her fortune from all her years in Politcs. That's a lot of favors she's expected to payback after all these years.
I've always expected a businessman to be shrewd, Trump ain't doing nothing I wouldn't expect from a businessman.
Hillary though, she could be a real life Claire Underwood for all I know...I'm just not rocking with her.
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Did I mention Hilary? She's a seasoned politician with special interests that includes wall street, all of that is out there. But the better alternative in that area is again, a NYC plutocrat? If you believe that, then Bloomberg wasn't pandering to them either.
ninjahood said:
Mark Antony said:
Why is abortion important to a male? Why is invasion of privacy important to someone with nothing to hide?
Click to expand...

How u would you like it if a chick u got

Pregnant and was gonna have ur son decided

She had enuff of you for w/e reason and was

Gonna terminate a 8 month trimester

pregnancy? Are u not as a father willing to

Hold any kind of objection to that?

Late term abortion is flat out murder...

Im pro choice sure, but there'sNO REASON laws should allow a viable baby fetus that stage in pregnancy to be termniated.

Partial-Birth_Abortion1.jpg
Click to expand...

I have no objections to early trimester limits, just pro lifers.
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This is the thing he doesn't seem to understand.

As mentioned earlier in this thread, ninja is really arguing with the extreme left liberal in his head.

I don't think anyone is approving of a woman getting an abortion for frivolous reasons.

Which is why I say it's a case by case situation and you can't make any sweeping decisions on everyone based on personal ideals and beliefs.
 
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the 1% is for abortion after 20 weeks. which is 4-5 months in. i don't know the numbers for 8 months in, but considering the percentage of abortions goes down by half for every 2-3 weeks of pregnancy, i would say it's approaching one in almost never.

here are the biggest reasons why a woman has a late abortion:

71% — Woman didn’t recognize she was pregnant or misjudged gestation

48% — Woman found it hard to make arrangements for abortion

33% — Woman was afraid to tell her partner or parents
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steven-waldman/the-inconvenient-truths-f_b_210821.html

now ask yourself: whose fault is it that this happens?

usually it's the negative stereotype and the archaic laws that make access to health services more difficult for these women.

so, if you're so much against late-term abortions, you should be all-in for laws that improve access and provide health services for women.

i mean, you really think a woman would willfully decide to take a pregnancy to eight months? really??? outside of the rare case report, this is not the norm in any way, shape, or form, and to make it out this way is just pure sensationalism and intellectual dishonesty.
 
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Pdino said:
Diego said:
If shorty made the decision that she don't want to deal with your **** no more and don't want your child, the future of being a happy family ain't looking too bright.


She also didn't need 8 months of pregnancy to make this realization.

How common are late abortions anyways? What percentage of all abortions is this?


Or are we just using late term just to be more sensational on this topic?
Click to expand...


Of all the abortions, it's about 1%
Click to expand...

That 1% is for late term, you are correct brah

Ninja mentions 8 months (32 weeks) doe . Late term is consider after 20 weeks,

So I would guess that the number for his example is actually below .5%

-And remember folks when ask about Daewoo Drumpf stance on social issues, this is a dude that said he doesn't care about social issues

But now he was to guilt trip liberals about abortion.
 
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RustyShackleford said:
That 1% is for late term, you are correct brah

Ninja mentions 8 months (32 weeks) doe . Late term is consider after 20 weeks,

So I would guess that the number for his example is actually below .5%

-And remember folks when ask about Daewoo Drumpf stance on social issues, this is a dude that said he doesn't care about social issues

But now he was to guilt trip liberals about abortion.
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I wouldn't mind a president that told everyone to kick it, but that's definitely not Trump.
 
ninjahood said:
Mark Antony said:
Why is abortion important to a male? Why is invasion of privacy important to someone with nothing to hide?
Click to expand...

How u would you like it if a chick u got

Pregnant and was gonna have ur son decided

She had enuff of you for w/e reason and was

Gonna terminate a 8 month trimester

pregnancy? Are u not as a father willing to

Hold any kind of objection to that?

Late term abortion is flat out murder...

Im pro choice sure, but there'sNO REASON laws should allow a viable baby fetus that stage in pregnancy to be termniated.

Partial-Birth_Abortion1.jpg
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:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

WHERE IS THIS CURRENTLY LEGAL NINJA? WHERE!!!!????

You sound crazy here b. Abortion is already currently legal. The main problem state to state is how they try to make it close to impossible for females to make use of those services by spreading misinformation, relocating and shutting down clinics and PP spots, etc.

I must've been lost in the sauce when any term abortions was legal.

I can totally understand a man's argument for wanting a child and not having a say in a pregnancy but you just went ahead an invalidated it all with this 8 month termination nonsense.
 
X-Alt said:
RustyShackleford said:
That 1% is for late term, you are correct brah

Ninja mentions 8 months (32 weeks) doe . Late term is consider after 20 weeks,

So I would guess that the number for his example is actually below .5%

-And remember folks when ask about Daewoo Drumpf stance on social issues, this is a dude that said he doesn't care about social issues

But now he was to guilt trip liberals about abortion.
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I wouldn't mind a president that told everyone to kick it, but that's definitely not Trump.
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Dude what? Tell everyone to kick it

Like the woman that is raped, she should kick it? The victim of incest, she should kick it? The woman whose pregnancy might kill her, she should kick it?

Let me give you a tip famb, don't take this stand.

Unless you meant something else by that comment?
 
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HarlemToTheBronx said:
I agree. Hardline anything isn't the way to deal with the topic of abortion.
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The main issue with the current GOP is that they go against my "classical" conservative/libertarian ideas and have turned into the "anti-liberal" party. When you're ready to shut down the Government, you know you're trying too hard.

RustyShackleford said:
Dude what? Tell everyone to kick it

Like the woman that is raped, she should kick it? The victim of incest, she should kick it? The woman whose pregnancy might kill her, she should kick it?

Let me give you a tip famb, don't take this stand. You will sound dumber than a nazi sympathizer
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As in let the social status quo take place. No more whining about abortion from both sides and let Roe v Wade/other soopreme court rulings do their job. Except Citizens United, that's hot garbage.

Really both sides are just throwing punches, it's getting annoying. Look at the troll bills in Indiana.
 
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HarlemToTheBronx said:
I agree. Hardline anything isn't the way to deal with the topic of abortion.
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The main issue with the current GOP is that they go against my "classical" conservative/libertarian ideas and have turned into the "anti-liberal" party. When you're ready to shut down the Government, you know you're trying too hard.
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I agree 100%.

I feel like both sides are just too focused on disparaging the other. This is the problem with this two party system. It just pits us against each other on issues instead of setting a tone where we work together to figure out these issues.
 
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Lets not run this "both sides are the same" talk doe. The level of buffoonery is off the charts in the GOP right now
 
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