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The bloodiness of the American Civil War does not disprove the fact that White Supremacy is foundational to the US. The death toll confirms it. We fought the bloodiest war in our History because certain Americans wanted to insure their "right" and "liberty" to own other humans as chattel slaves.

White Southerners charged into the mouths of cannons and muskets so they could own black bodies or so they could experience the vicarious thrill of knowing that rich white guys would get to own black bodies. It took a huge portion of Northern manhood in order to force other white people to give up on outright chattel slavery.

Yes we were the only Country in the Western World to fight a war to end slavery but that is nothing to be proud of because every other Western Country was able to end slavery without fighting a civil war. America, especially the America of 1830 to 1860, the America of King Cotton, was so addicted to slavery that it had to sacrifice a generation of young men in order to break its addiction to chattel slavery, that purest manifestation of the monetizing of the black body
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I think the fact slaves accounted for 90% of the GDP of this country at the height of the slave trade ought to be common knowledge.
 
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Amendments?

I love how this dude doesn't understand that he just made my point FOR me.

Except for da fact that ¾ of da senate and Congress has to ratfiy any

Amendment...doesn't exactly happened at da whims of poor lil snowflakes

When their microagressions get triggered :lol:

Speaking of slavery... Where's all da denigration to Muslims that ran

Da islamic slave trade CENTURIES before and CENTURIES after da american

Civil war? Da racial resentment of some of ya off da charts...
 
wake up, check to see what's new in the thread...

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Amendments?

I love how this dude doesn't understand that he just made my point FOR me.

Except for da fact that ¾ of da senate and Congress has to ratfiy any

Amendment...doesn't exactly happened at da whims of poor lil snowflakes

When their microagressions get triggered :lol:

Speaking of slavery... Where's all da denigration to Muslims that ran

Da islamic slave trade CENTURIES before and CENTURIES after da american

Civil war? Da racial resentment of some of ya off da charts...

The fact 3/4 of Congress has to ratify any amendment proves the point you're arguing against.

When it comes to slavery, Africans had and sold slaves. Nobody can argue with that because before the industrial revolution, manpower made powerful societies. However, the people sold were of two kinds: criminals and war prisoners. Slavery became an issue of race when Europeans codified their slavery system according to theories of racial superiority that placed them at the top of the racial hierarchy. In addition, the economy of the new world was centered around the trade, which meant that it constituted a very large portion of the British and US GDPs. Because of that growing demand, slavers started capturing free Africans in Africa in order to sell them into slavery, to the point where local kings reached out to their euro counterparts to get them to curb the demand (there are letters from King Afonso I of Kongo addressing it). The Arab trade never had that much impact on the continent.

It's not racial resentment (whatever that means): it's about telling the truth in the face of the feel-good history revisionism some of you like to partake in. The civil war was about the states' rights to own slaves.
 
Actually it wasn't Europeans... But southern

Slave masters that had to justify da perpetual slavery system once da translantic

Slave trade was outlawed and their fresh stock from africa dried up.
 
Saya da wiseguy that wants to run someone


Off a website it doesn't agree with...how rich is that irony :lol:


Says the guy who has reported me on SEVERAL instances. :lol:  


Half the times I've gotten reported on this site was at a comment directed at you.  :rofl:  

Outta da 16 years ive been on this site

Whether lurking or an actual member, if ive

Pressed da report button more than 3 times

Would more than surprise me,

Da problem with your type is god forbid some one disagrees with you, its straight personal w/ u. My attitude remains stoic under pressure..you?

:lol: lets just say even Nomad has his moments of redemption.

Lol this dude is the product of the transatlantic slave trade he's using typical white supremacist apologist logic by bringing up other instances of slavery.


#africans sold slaves too
#da Muslims did it too
#slavery was a billion years ago

Da Muslim islamic slave trade made what happened in da United States a pitty

party, you papering over that well known fact just makes your selective

Outrage disingenuous. While da muscle car era was raging in

Da United States, folks were still being bought, and sold like property

Across da Atlantic... Where's ur condemnation for da "islamic supremacist"?
 
Has JCVD been mentioned in here? He pointed out exactly why Hilary is going to win guaranteed %100. Trump is nothing more than a side show and a distraction.
 
Props to you guys that actually read in the annoying way ninja writes and take your time to put thought out responses. I just skip past his posts and learn from the points you counter him with, in the instances that he isn't bringing up something that's been discussed already and isn't deflecting / ignoring points.
 
Da psychology of looking into why ninja aligns himself politically with poor white supremacists and rich southern white dudes would be an interesting case study.
 
Did this clown just refer to the transatlantic slave trade as a pity party? Am I reading his elementary word structure correct? Why is this dude still on this site? I've seen far too many incendiary comments posted by dude but Meth just lets him skate for what?
 
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Da psychology of looking into why ninja aligns himself politically with poor white supremacists and rich southern white dudes would be an interesting case study.

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Famb dipped into the archives and pulled out Daddy Yankee trying to throw da Gasolina on the McCain campaign, I'm weak :rofl: :rofl:

I remember so many of my Hispanics friends being heated at dude for his, this chick Savaldorina chick Lydia I was messing wit even threw away his CDs
 
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The constitution is kinda like the bible, a lot of that nonsense doesn't apply today but people will still use it as word. And when the social climate changes, they interpret it to their convenience eg. views on homosexuals. 
Doesn't the constitution also say that whoever is born in the US is an automatic citizen? The right wingers are crazy about their constitution, but not so much about that part. Donald "anchor babies" Drumpf be like "Well, I don't think that's what our founding fathers meant it like that when they wrote it." 
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That part of the constitution sure is open to interpretation according to them. But as soon as it's anything about guns, nooo you can't discuss that part. Even though it was wrote during a time when the government and people had access to same weapons, whereas today the 700 billion dollar per year military budget having government has hydrogen bombs and drones. Yet you can't touch the right of some right wing nut to own assault rifles and keep the illusion that they would have a chance in a fight against a "tyrannical government" alive.
 
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Tell me where slavery is written in the constitution mr smart guy?
Pretty sure the slave trade is directly mentioned in the constitution. It's one of those documents that should actually be rewritten so it doesn't require 9 men to determine what is and isn't.

But holy mother of allah it's becoming a roast fest down here. Some dudes need to calm down with that.
 
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Da psychology of looking into why ninja aligns himself politically with poor white supremacists and rich southern white dudes would be an interesting case study.

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Da short answer is hispanic aren't monolithic in our voting patterns, da

longer answer is immigrants in general arent indoctrinated

Into da racial strife and resentment demographics like da black community are

predisposed to or Racial politics in general.

http://www.wnyc.org/story/ask-immigrant/

A liberal call in show from NPR affiated

WNYC from almost new year's ave

Da answer that Sam Chekwas from Nigeria

Pretty much nailed da sentiments that i and

Many other immigrant enclaves feel..we're

happy to be here and this country offers

every opportunity you can dream of if u work

Hard enough and take advantages of whats in front of you.
 
Man yall let dude bait you again with his the constitution paved the way to ending slavery.

Let that fool continue to be dust in the wind.
 
Props to you guys that actually read in the annoying way ninja writes and take your time to put thought out responses. I just skip past his posts and learn from the points you counter him with, in the instances that he isn't bringing up something that's been discussed already and isn't deflecting / ignoring points.

Honestly, politics/economics are a dirty interest of mine. I don't mind debating it because I consider myself reasonably informed on the topic based on how much I read on a daily/weekly basis and my background in school during my undergrad and grad school along with what I do day to day at work.

I have a left-center leaning mindset and I like to debate those from the right because I honestly like proving them wrong or challenging their thoughts in such ways that a normal person won't. I see Rusty and a few others do the same. I'm sure we all know that changing some of these people is damn near impossible. But I rather try to inform them than have them live in the "ignorance is bliss" phase of their lives. Plus, I know many people don't have the patience to do so. Now don't get me wrong, if I get approached by an extreme left leaning person I will do the exact same thing to them.
 
Speaking of slavery... Where's all da denigration to Muslims that ran

Da islamic slave trade CENTURIES before and CENTURIES after da american

Civil war? Da racial resentment of some of ya off da charts...
I don't understand the point of bringing this up. Because other people were wrong our wrong is less wrong.

At the end of the day, we want the country that we live in to at least acknowledge that the way this country started has long lasting effects on the minorities that live in this country
 
Speaking of slavery... Where's all da denigration to Muslims that ran


Da islamic slave trade CENTURIES before and CENTURIES after da american


Civil war? Da racial resentment of some of ya off da charts...

I don't understand the point of bringing this up. Because other people were wrong our wrong is less wrong.

At the end of the day, we want the country that we live in to at least acknowledge that the way this country started has long lasting effects on the minorities that live in this country

Well that's Rusty's whole point about deflection. He doesn't use actual points to admit or answer for something directly but finds something to change the topic into.
 
Speaking of slavery... Where's all da denigration to Muslims that ran


Da islamic slave trade CENTURIES before and CENTURIES after da american


Civil war? Da racial resentment of some of ya off da charts...

I don't understand the point of bringing this up. Because other people were wrong our wrong is less wrong.

At the end of the day, we want the country that we live in to at least acknowledge that the way this country started has long lasting effects on the minorities that live in this country

Many dont subscribe to that, especially when you compare recent immigrant

Minority Upward mobility compared to their american born minority

counterparts.
 
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