Donald Trump is running for president

TraSoul82 said:

RustyShackleford said:

You know what else is threatened with Trump as president, the lives of plenty of religious and ethnic minorities

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#BLM started on Obama's watch, though. So many people have "grown tired" on Obama's watch. Why does he get a pass? Because "Trayvon could have been [his] son"?

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RustyShackleford said:

TraSoul82 said:

RustyShackleford said:

You know what else is threatened with Trump as president, the lives of plenty of religious and ethnic minorities

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#BLM started on Obama's watch, though. So many people have "grown tired" on Obama's watch. Why does he get a pass? Because "Trayvon could have been [his] son"?

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So Obama is suppose to waive a magic wand stop every white supremacist from committing acts of violence against black people. What kind of stupid logic is that

People keep wanting to blame of Obama for the spike in white supremacist acting up, because somehow Obama is to blame for pissing these loons off with his black skin.

How dare he

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If the GOP is interested in helping black people, they will expand Medicaid in southern red states, supported criminal justice reform, support reinstituting voting rights measures, support a jobs bill, and support building on the Ferguson Commission.

Oh look, kinda seems like Obama has tried to pass stuff that would help black folk, but has been stopped but Republican obstructionism

Go figure

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TraSoul82 said:

RustyShackleford said:

TraSoul82 said:

RustyShackleford said:

You know what else is threatened with Trump as president, the lives of plenty of religious and ethnic minorities

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#BLM started on Obama's watch, though. So many people have "grown tired" on Obama's watch. Why does he get a pass? Because "Trayvon could have been [his] son"?

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So Obama is suppose to waive a magic wand stop every white supremacist from committing acts of violence against black people. What kind of stupid logic is that

People keep wanting to blame of Obama for the spike in white supremacist acting up, because somehow Obama is to blame for pissing these loons off with his black skin.

How dare he

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If the GOP is interested in helping black people, they will expand Medicaid in southern red states, supported criminal justice reform, support reinstituting voting rights measures, support a jobs bill, and support building on the Ferguson Commission.

Oh look, kinda seems like Obama has tried to pass stuff that would help black folk, but has been stopped but Republican obstructionism

Go figure

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So you're saying we're in a no-win situation and Trump is to blame for that?

I also find it strange how no one trusts the major media outlets... Unless they're talking bad about Trump... Then it's all accurate information that we should be worried about.

I just don't buy it.

Until Trump renegs and starts taking lobbyist checks (like Obama did; hence the bailouts and mandatory overpriced healthcare), I'm going to see what he has to say for myself and give the guy a chance.

I just don't see how people want more of the same at this point.

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RustyShackleford said:

You know what else is threatened with Trump as president, the lives of plenty of religious and ethnic minorities

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Donald Trump’s Tampa Office Is an Unlikely Melting Pot

Mireya Linsky, a Cuban-born supporter of Donald J. Trump. She said that illegal immigration was one of her chief concerns.
HILARY SWIFT FOR THE NEW YORK TIMES
By DAVID BARSTOW
MARCH 13, 2016
TAMPA — Get live updates about the Florida primary.

Mireya Linsky, born to a Jewish family in Cuba, came to the United States as a refugee at age 5. Her family lived in public housing here for several years and sometimes relied on assistance from Catholic Charities. She has spent the past 33 years working for the Hillsborough County School District.

So Mrs. Linsky, 55, understands that some may see certain contradictions in the fact that she is now spending several nights a week volunteering here at Donald J. Trump’s campaign office. “Like I’m just pulling the drawbridge up behind me,” she says.

Yet Mrs. Linsky is also quick to acknowledge a long list of racial fears and resentments that she says help explain why she is drawn to Mr. Trump: She is furious at undocumented workers who “come basically to see what they can get.” She is wary of Muslim Americans imposing their religion on communities in the United States. She is fearful of more American jobs being outsourced to China, India or Mexico. She even suspects President Obama “has a dislike for white folks.”

“We’re not taking care of our own,” she said.

Recently, Mr. Trump’s campaign has been engulfed by ugly images of mostly white Trump supporters facing off against, and sometimes attacking, young protesters, many of them black or Hispanic, at Trump rallies in Chicago, St. Louis and elsewhere.

But here in Tampa, in the week before the pivotal Florida primary, conversations with more than 20 volunteers showing up to make campaign calls or otherwise help out at a small Trump campaign office in an old cigar factory yielded some surprises on the subjects of race, ethnicity and bigotry.


For a campaign frequently depicted as offering a rallying point for the white working class, the people volunteering to help Mr. Trump here are noteworthy for their ethnic diversity. They include a young woman who recently arrived from Peru; an immigrant from the Philippines; a 70-year-old Lakota Indian; a teenage son of Russian immigrants; a Mexican-American.

They range the political spectrum, too, from lifelong Democrat to independent to libertarian to conservative Republican. To a person, they condemned and sometimes ridiculed David Duke and other white supremacists who have noisily backed Mr. Trump. “I totally do not agree with them,” said one volunteer, Andrew Cherry.

Yet like Mrs. Linsky, many spoke openly about how fears centered on race and ethnicity were at the heart of their support for Mr. Trump. To a large extent, they traced those fears to the scars they still bear from the Great Recession — lost jobs, drained 401(k)’s, home foreclosures, rising debt, the feeling that the country is broken.


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More than anything, several Trump volunteers here said, the Great Recession exposed a corrupt, out-of-touch ruling class in Washington that allows big corporations to outsource jobs at will while doing nothing to address millions of illegal immigrants who compete for jobs and drain government coffers. In Mr. Trump, they say, they see a potential antidote to all of this. A man too wealthy to be bought or co-opted. A man with the blunt-force clarity to declare that he is ready to Make America Great Again.

“I think we’ve come to the conclusion that our country is falling apart, and we have to take care of it,” Mrs. Linsky said.

It would be hard to imagine more politically unfriendly turf for a Trump campaign office than the old Garcia and Vega cigar factory on Armenia Avenue. The factory looms over West Tampa, a Democratic stronghold long dominated by Latinos, especially Cuban-Americans. Today, the factory has been converted into space for start-ups. The campaign rents a small room on the second floor and uses a common area for its phone banks.

Early on Wednesday afternoon, Bob Peele, 62, pulled up to the back of the cigar factory in a pickup truck overflowing with Trump campaign signs. Mr. Peele, burly and bearded, wearing a Harley-Davidson hat and a T-shirt depicting a bald eagle, began unloading signs.

Just then, Annette Lux, 62, and Sharon Wollen, 70, pulled up in a small Chevy. They had driven nearly 20 miles from their senior community in Valrico in hopes of getting a sign, a T-shirt, a bumper sticker — anything to show support for Mr. Trump. Through the car window, Mrs. Lux, a lifelong Democrat, launched into a tirade against Hillary Clinton, accusing her of always pandering to African-American or Hispanic voters. “When do you ever say you need the white person’s vote?” she called out to Mr. Peele. She quickly added, “I’m not racist or anything.”

The women got out of the car and headed to the Trump campaign office. Mrs. Lux, walking with a cane, and Mrs. Wollen, tiny and frail, explained that everywhere they looked, they saw evidence of a diminished nation, one so hobbled it cannot give decent health care to many veterans. “They even got rid of our space program,” Mrs. Lux said.

Their circumstances have been diminished, too. Mrs. Lux ekes out a living at a check-cashing store; Mrs. Wollen lost her state job working for Florida’s toll system. “Now I’m working retail, and I’m starving,” she said.

In Mr. Trump, they see someone at last willing to acknowledge the needs of the white working class. “I feel that we’re getting left out,” Mrs. Lux said. “There’s more than Black Lives Matter. What about us?”

Mr. Peele was still unloading signs when Marcos Quevedo pulled up. He, too, wanted a Trump sign. Mr. Quevedo, 45, is the president of Sleepdreams Diagnostics, which also has office space in the cigar factory. The aftermath of the Great Recession cost Mr. Quevedo his managerial position with a sleep diagnosis company and contributed to the collapse of his marriage. “Corporate America got a little ruthless,” is how he puts it.


Mr. Quevedo, a registered Democrat who was raised in West Tampa by parents who fled Cuba, says he is troubled by what he sees as thuggishness and racially charged language at Trump campaign rallies. But such is his frustration with both parties, and his desperation to shake up Washington, that he is willing to overlook the ugliness. “I’m turning my cheek to the David Duke comments,” he said.


That evening, Trump volunteers began arriving for several hours of phone banking.

Deloris Owens, 49, is one of the first to arrive. This is the first time she has volunteered for a political campaign. After 2008 she was laid off by Verizon, where she had worked as a call center supervisor. Then she and her husband lost their home in Brandon to foreclosure, as did many of their neighbors. Mrs. Owens, who describes herself as “in the middle” politically, said she voted for Mr. Obama in 2012.

Emma Aquino, 51, arrives moments later with her own tale of 2008 woe. Her home in Utah, she said, lost 50 percent of its value, and when an accident left her unable to work, she risked losing the house altogether. The most her bank would do was reduce her interest rate, but only at the cost of extending her mortgage to 40 years from 20.

To her, the mortgage meltdown perfectly encapsulates what she views as the corrupt bargain that rules the nation’s capital — politicians from both parties getting in bed with big corporations and their lobbyists to rig the game against average Americans. “The banks,” she says, her voice rising with indignation. “The government supported the banks.”

As Mrs. Aquino talks about what she loves about Mr. Trump — how “he’s against lobbyists” and how he’s “not influenced by big corporations” — at first it sounds as if she might be talking about Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont. But then she begins talking about a scourge of illegal immigrants. Mrs. Aquino stresses that when she arrived from the Philippines, she followed every rule, paid every fee. “I went through the process,” she said. She learned English, became a citizen and worked to “create my own American dream.”

Mrs. Aquino brings up a court case she just read about. An Army captain, a Sikh, had sued the Defense Department, seeking the right to wear a turban and beard in adherence with his faith. “Adhere to American culture,” she says disapprovingly. “Adhere to American tradition.”

Hours later, with the evening’s phone banking session over, the Trumpites trickle off into the warm Tampa evening. Among the last to leave are Andrew and Juliana Cherry, both 35, who together operate a small real estate firm in Clearwater Beach. Mrs. Cherry, who came to the United States a few years ago from Peru, still struggles with English, though she spends hours each day defending Mr. Trump on Twitter. Mr. Cherry describes himself as a political pragmatist who will vote for Mrs. Clinton if the Republican establishment denies Mr. Trump the nomination.

Before 2008, Mr. Cherry made his living flipping property in Florida, in part using lessons he learned by taking a course from Trump University. The Great Recession wiped Mr. Cherry out. “I ended up owing more than $1 million,” he said. He wound up homeless, sleeping on his office couch for six months.

The Cherrys, though quick to condemn all forms of racism, say Mr. Trump is fundamentally correct when he promises to refocus the federal government’s priorities on Americans’ needs.

“If Trump doesn’t make the economy better,” Mr. Cherry said, “we’ll fire him in four years.”

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RustyShackleford said:

ninjahood said:

RustyShackleford said:

SneakerHeathen said:

I'm not a Hillary supporter at ALL though.

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That's the thing, famb can't even give a valid reason vote FOR Drumpf

All he got is mostly right wing Hillary shade, while ignoring all of Drumpf's shortcomings

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Right wing?! da NY times beeeeeen

Had it in for her and their da pillar of liberal journalism.

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The same NY Times those editorial staff endorsed her for president?

That one.

Please pa, like I said, you can't even provide one solid reason to vote for Trump.

Besides maybe, "Da Establishment"

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HarlemToTheBronx said:

Y'all eat this **** up. You don't realize it's the same ******** in a different package? You really think Trump has the best interest of everyone in this country at heart?

He's not a career politician, but he's a career businessman. How different are the two really? Especially when you get to the point that Trump is.

Just because he isn't a career politician, doesn't mean he's a good person or leader. I still have yet to see a compelling argument as to why I should believe Trump isn't a bigot. I've got a lot of evidence supporting that theory, though.

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ninjahood said:

So u just gonna ignore everything i said

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ninjahood said:

RustyShackleford said:

ninjahood said:

RustyShackleford said:

SneakerHeathen said:

I'm not a Hillary supporter at ALL though.

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That's the thing, famb can't even give a valid reason vote FOR Drumpf

All he got is mostly right wing Hillary shade, while ignoring all of Drumpf's shortcomings

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Right wing?! da NY times beeeeeen

Had it in for her and their da pillar of liberal journalism.

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The same NY Times those editorial staff endorsed her for president?

That one.

Please pa, like I said, you can't even provide one solid reason to vote for Trump.

Besides maybe, "Da Establishment"

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So u just gonna ignore everything i said

About Trump doing something bout Trade?

Being LESS hawkish than Hillary Clinton on military interventionism?

Actually running a business and being a chief
Executive?

Going to be WAY more smarter on how tax policies is laid out?

NOT BEING BOUGHT & PAID FOR by da Establishment?

Gonna repeal that STUPID cafe MPG car mandate?

Yea. No way im voting Hillary, and u outta

Everyone knows Bernie Sanders is a washed

Up whale on da beach at this point... Or do

I have to post that southern primary shalackin'he sustained? [emoji]128584[/emoji][emoji]128584[/emoji][emoji]128584[/emoji][emoji]128584[/emoji]

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Diego said:

Master Zik said:

He's another one

Comes off very robotic but if you catch him in a room where he knows thinks he aint being recorded the real Mitt comes out and dude is a ruthless bastard

Went from you're not a very smart person to only foreign women are willing to marry you.

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It's a cute comment and all but to keep it real, aren't all street cats listening to future and getting them foreign yambs?
I want me a foreign too...

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HarlemToTheBronx said:

Y'all eat this **** up. You don't realize it's the same ******** in a different package? You really think Trump has the best interest of everyone in this country at heart?

He's not a career politician, but he's a career businessman. How different are the two really? Especially when you get to the point that Trump is.

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rillo561 said:

Wasn't one of the knocks on Obama was he didn't have "experience", but some how some questionable businessman with less than a year experience is some how the man for the job.

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PLVN said:

ninjahood said:

So u just gonna ignore everything i said

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What's good for da goose is good for da gander

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RustyShackleford said:

ninjahood said:

RustyShackleford said:

ninjahood said:

RustyShackleford said:

SneakerHeathen said:

I'm not a Hillary supporter at ALL though.

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That's the thing, famb can't even give a valid reason vote FOR Drumpf

All he got is mostly right wing Hillary shade, while ignoring all of Drumpf's shortcomings

Click to expand...

Right wing?! da NY times beeeeeen

Had it in for her and their da pillar of liberal journalism.

Click to expand...

The same NY Times those editorial staff endorsed her for president?

That one.

Please pa, like I said, you can't even provide one solid reason to vote for Trump.

Besides maybe, "Da Establishment"

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So u just gonna ignore everything i said

About Trump doing something bout Trade?

Being LESS hawkish than Hillary Clinton on military interventionism?

Actually running a business and being a chief
Executive?

Going to be WAY more smarter on how tax policies is laid out?

NOT BEING BOUGHT & PAID FOR by da Establishment?

Gonna repeal that STUPID cafe MPG car mandate?

Yea. No way im voting Hillary, and u outta

Everyone knows Bernie Sanders is a washed

Up whale on da beach at this point... Or do

I have to post that southern primary shalackin'he sustained? [emoji]128584[/emoji][emoji]128584[/emoji][emoji]128584[/emoji][emoji]128584[/emoji]

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-And you just ignored him advocating for war crimes

-And you're gonna ignore that his solutions for trade are naive, and that he is a hypocrite because he takes advantage of these deals he now denounces

-That his tax plan is gonna run MASSIVE deficits, before accounting for all the extra spending he is asking for

-That he has already said that when he gets nominated, the establishment has to get money for his campaign.

-And that he has been a failure as a CEO plenty of times, and the bankruptcy laws bailed him out.

Keep acting like it is me not listening. You ignore what you want to ignore so you can be blissfully ignorant and feel comfortable supporting a damb bigot

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ninjahood said:

Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler!

RustyShackleford said:

ninjahood said:

RustyShackleford said:

ninjahood said:

RustyShackleford said:

SneakerHeathen said:

I'm not a Hillary supporter at ALL though.

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That's the thing, famb can't even give a valid reason vote FOR Drumpf

All he got is mostly right wing Hillary shade, while ignoring all of Drumpf's shortcomings

Click to expand...

Right wing?! da NY times beeeeeen

Had it in for her and their da pillar of liberal journalism.

Click to expand...

The same NY Times those editorial staff endorsed her for president?

That one.

Please pa, like I said, you can't even provide one solid reason to vote for Trump.

Besides maybe, "Da Establishment"

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So u just gonna ignore everything i said

About Trump doing something bout Trade?

Being LESS hawkish than Hillary Clinton on military interventionism?

Actually running a business and being a chief
Executive?

Going to be WAY more smarter on how tax policies is laid out?

NOT BEING BOUGHT & PAID FOR by da Establishment?

Gonna repeal that STUPID cafe MPG car mandate?

Yea. No way im voting Hillary, and u outta

Everyone knows Bernie Sanders is a washed

Up whale on da beach at this point... Or do

I have to post that southern primary shalackin'he sustained? [emoji]128584[/emoji][emoji]128584[/emoji][emoji]128584[/emoji][emoji]128584[/emoji]

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-And you just ignored him advocating for war crimes

-And you're gonna ignore that his solutions for trade are naive, and that he is a hypocrite because he takes advantage of these deals he now denounces

-That his tax plan is gonna run MASSIVE deficits, before accounting for all the extra spending he is asking for

-That he has already said that when he gets nominated, the establishment has to get money for his campaign.

-And that he has been a failure as a CEO plenty of times, and the bankruptcy laws bailed him out.

Keep acting like it is me not listening. You ignore what you want to ignore so you can be blissfully ignorant and feel comfortable supporting a damb bigot

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I already answer da "war crimes" gripe...hello Geneva convention?

We're running a MASSIVE trade defict wit China, and hell everyone else..i trust Trump
With da issue WAY MORE than someone like

Clinton who cosigned TPP and helped pass NAFTA

His tax policies will BRING BACK jobs because
He lookin to cut corporate taxes so companies

Are no longer incentived to either move jobs

Overseas or completely uproot & leave da country.

There IS no upside to a clinton presidency,

She's not Bill.

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RustyShackleford said:

Manufacturing has been coming back, that doesn't guarantee millions of jobs will come with it, and it will lend to higher price on stuff at least in the short run.

I not gonna give the keys to the car to Trump just because there is some truth to his claims on trade. Many of his economic policies are trash, he spews nonsense on foreign policy and social issue might not matter to you, but they do to millions of others, including me.

Hillary isn't great, she is barely passable, but she would be way better than Drumpf. The SCOTUS pick alone is enough to make me vote for her over Drumpf

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LIONBLOOD said:

RustyShackleford said:

Yeah Lionblood, you good famb?

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lol why? I just meant I missed ninjahood like a homeless person misses that urineless corner in San Francisco he used to sleep in. In comparison to Blco, ninjahood puts out more coherent, better thought out arguments.....once you get past the grammar and poor syntax. This is NOT saying much. 

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