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Who will represent the Western Conference in the NBA Finals?

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Do you guys realize how badly this sets the Mavs franchise behind?

I mean, I really don't feel bad because it helps the Lakerd.

But does DeAndre realize how badly he just screwed them? They didn't even try keeping Tyson because of him. I mean they legit lost out on everyone because of him...

this messed up their whole season. if they werent gonna land him, do they spend money on wes? now they are tied in to him as well.
heck, they couldve gone afte biyombo or some other big if they didnt re-up tyson

they wouldve probably went with the same old squad for another yr or two. now they gotta do sign and trade to get something back
 
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Do you guys realize how badly this sets the Mavs franchise behind?

I mean, I really don't feel bad because it helps the Lakers.

But does DeAndre realize how badly he just screwed them? They didn't even try keeping Tyson because of him. I mean they legit lost out on everyone because of him... It's pretty messed up
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Not at all. It could actually help them. I don't trust DJ long term and I think they are better off maxing someone else. Hopefully next season the rules will change and they can sign someone quicker 
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Except he handled it like a female dog by not returning the Mavs' calls or attempts to get in touch with him. Act like a man and have the decency to say, "Hey you know what, I know I'm putting you in a tough spot but I had a change of heart and want to do what's best for me."

Changing his mind this late in the game was bad enough but he handled it like a HS girl giving her ex the silent treatment.

As a Clipper fan, I can;t disagree with any of this. He messed it up even more. Went from a bad situation to a god awful situation. This is where he needed his agent, but he couldn't trust his agent

I don't know how a family member didn't step in and shake his *** and tell him he needed to do the right thing and face Cuban and company.
 
Do you guys realize how badly this sets the Mavs franchise behind?

I mean, I really don't feel bad because it helps the Lakers.

But does DeAndre realize how badly he just screwed them? They didn't even try keeping Tyson because of him. I mean they legit lost out on everyone because of him... It's pretty messed up :\

They kind of disrespect Tyson though, so i don't feel bad about that.

Dallas will be fine. Rough next 2 years but its a great organization.
 
you're not looking at the big picture though. You're looking at it as an average Joe, no disrespect. You and I can't fathom passing up that type of money, but we;re also not looking at the type of money being thrown at him.
Unless he is gonna opt out at year 3 then I still see no point. Now if you telling me after year 3 there is gonna be another rise in the salary cap then fine I get it. But if he is gonna play out his contract or the lockout that's coming in 2 years then it makes no sense. He might as well go the Lebron route and sign a 2 year deal with a player option after the 1st.
 
http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story/...llas-mavericks

DeAndre Jordan had every right to change his mind, put his family first and renege on his commitment to join the Dallas Mavericks.

But he took the coward's way out, refusing to accept phone calls from the Mavs' front office or his good buddy Chandler Parsons. Nor did he return text messages or tell owner Mark Cuban face-to-face why he changed his mind -- a decision that will take the Mavs years to overcome.

Emotionally, this franchise might never recover from Jordan's decision to re-sign with the Los Angeles Clippers, which, sources told ESPN, could be completed as early as Thursday morning at his house in Houston.

Every MFFL -- Mavs Fan for Life -- has the right to boo him as long and as loud as they can until the day he retires.

If you're old enough to remember, the Mavs drafted Kiki Vandeweghe with the 11th pick of the first round in 1980, but he didn't want to play on an expansion team. The Mavs traded him six months later, and Mavs fans booed him literally every time he touched the ball for years.

Jordan should be prepared to get the same treatment. At least the Mavs acquired a couple of first-round draft picks in the Vandeweghe deal.

Jordan left nothing but a wrecked franchise. How wild is that? A few days ago, the Mavs felt good about their two-year plan to build a legitimate contender.

Now, the entire franchise is in disarray because a 26-year-old free agent changed his mind.

Without Jordan, who led the league in rebounding last season, the Mavs are a raggedy team with no assets worth mentioning. It's the worst place a franchise can find itself, because it can no longer sell hope.

Bad teams such as the Boston Celtics that have a ton of assets -- young talent or No.1 draft picks -- sell hope to their fan bases. Even awful franchises such as the Sacramento Kings or the Philadelphia 76ers can sell hope because they have young players with potential.

The Mavs have ignored the draft for so long, they don't have any young assets.They must rely on free agency to replenish their roster because they either can't draft good players or they can't develop them.

The Mavs won't make the playoffs next year, and we have no idea when they'll make it again.

Their entire offseason was built around getting Jordan, which they did. The problem, of course, is his commitment lasted just five days.

Perhaps we shouldn't be surprised. Maybe Donnie Nelson and Cuban and Parsons, their chief recruiter, were so busy chugging Champagne, smoking stogies and congratulating each other that they didn't ponder what it meant that Jordan never made a single public statement pledging his allegiance to the Mavs.

Not that it matters.

This franchise had a heck of a 15-year run, but it's over. Jordan was supposed to be the link to the future, a piece the Mavs could build around.

Instead, he'll forever be known as the man who destroyed the franchise.

The Mavs essentially let center Tyson Chandler go to Phoenix because they went all in on Jordan, which made sense considering he had been linked to the Mavs for months.

After all, he was a Texas kid who played high school and college ball in the Lone Star State. And in Dallas, he could have been the team's focal point, a star if you will.

That's never going to happen with the Clippers, where point guard Chris Paul is the face of the franchise and Blake Griffin is a star.

Jordan could've been the man in Dallas once Dirk Nowitzki retired. Still, Dirk's selfless approach would've allowed Jordan to get all the shine he deserved this year.

He took a similar approach with Monta Ellis, because Dirk's secure with his legacy, and winning is all he cares about.

All that's left now is for the Mavs to rebuild. That means a team that has not finished below .500 in the 15 years since Cuban bought the team must lose at least 50 games next season.

Sixty losses would be even better.

Boston gets Dallas' pick unless it's in the top seven, which means the Mavs need to be as awful as they can possibly be to secure the highest pick possible.

They don't need to acquire center Roy Hibbert or any other average center who will help them win too many games. Losing must be the Mavs' top priority for at least the next year.

The sad days have arrived. It's your right to boo Jordan forever. 
 
 Yea well 84M in Dallas is a whole hell of a lot better than 84M in Cali.
Its not that big of a difference if any.

DALLAS 42 games are road games.

Probably 15 of those road games are in Texas/Florida where he won't pay taxes either.

So he will pay taxes(state) on about 27 road games. 

22 million per year divided by 82 games = $270k per game

$270k x 25 road games = $6.7 million 

$6.7 million @ 19% tax (state/probably heavy here too) = $1. 13 million 

$1.13 million if he played @ Dallas

LA 42 home games + 25 road games = 67 taxable games

67 x $270K = $18 MILLION

$18 million @ 19% tax = $3.4 million

$3.4 million if he played @ LA

$3.4 mill - $1.13 mil = $2.27 mill

He pays $2.27 mil more per year in taxes being in LA, but he makes making about $2million more per year so in the end, ITS A WASH

Or something like that
 
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I love the Mavs and they will always be my favorite team in sports

But after Cuban disrespected a team that won him a championship finally I don't know how he thought there would be no consequences from that.
 
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